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Every time I visit HF I wind up in the screwdriver aisle looking these over. After reading about them yet again on GJ I finally bought some today. I've got to admit, they are nicer than my Craftsmans by a lot, definitely worth the $9 I spent.

They got a new pittsburgh pro set with comfort grip handles in a blow molded case with interchangeable blades for 10 bucks. Just saw it in their advert. Don't know where they're made but...I will signal the doom bell because the sky is falling.:spit:
 

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They got a new pittsburgh pro set with comfort grip handles in a blow molded case with interchangeable blades for 10 bucks. Just saw it in their advert. Don't know where they're made but...I will signal the doom bell because the sky is falling.:spit:
That's a misprint, if you mean these: http://www.harborfreight.com/32-piece-screwdriver-set-90764.html

The print ad says Pitt Pro for them, but they're regular Pittsburgh. I wouldn't count on them being quality.

I mean, they could be, but the odds seems bad.
 
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I created a poor-man's insulated screwdriver by tightly wrapping an old plastic handled screwdriver with several wraps of electrical tape. I use that to touch the tops of capacitors to discharge any stored energy.
 

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That's a misprint, if you mean these: http://www.harborfreight.com/32-piece-screwdriver-set-90764.html

The print ad says Pitt Pro for them, but they're regular Pittsburgh. I wouldn't count on them being quality.

I mean, they could be, but the odds seems bad.

Phew, that's a relief, I just bought the 'old' Pittsburgh Pro set yesterday and was panicking at the thought that there might be a new set that was better.

I've been using my new drivers all morning and I love them. I've twisted off a few screw heads with the Phillips drivers and I used the big flat blade to pry apart an old packing crate. So far so good, definitely worth $1 apiece :D.
 

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That's a misprint, if you mean these: http://www.harborfreight.com/32-piece-screwdriver-set-90764.html

The print ad says Pitt Pro for them, but they're regular Pittsburgh. I wouldn't count on them being quality.

I mean, they could be, but the odds seems bad.

I think those are the ones. Doom cancelled but I will recheck that awful print ad with my magnifier because they jam pack it full of **** in small print.:bounce:

I thought they said "new" too. I'll check later, maybe they got another set of insane-o-drivers.
 

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I created a poor-man's insulated screwdriver by tightly wrapping an old plastic handled screwdriver with several wraps of electrical tape. I use that to touch the tops of capacitors to discharge any stored energy.

The actual trick is to turn off the electricity before you work on stuff.:D
 

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The actual trick is to turn off the electricity before you work on stuff.:D

It's hard to turn off charged capacitors :lol:

I argree, turn it off!! I still like to use insulated tools even with the power turned off. Paranoia maybe?


I have chinese junk, craftsman, mac, and snap-on screwdrivers.

The chinese junk ones are just that... junk. Soft metal, slap-it-together quality. These don't even work well as chisels and prybars.

The craftsman ones are fair. My wife caught a black friday deal a few years ago. It was $20 for about 20 pieces. She bought half a dozen and gave them as presents. I kept two sets. I've abused these to hell and back. I've only managed to damage two one them. These are also the set that I grind/bend/modify as needed. At roughly $1 for each screwdriver I can't complain.

The mac ones are good. I like the older style hard handle. The quality doesn't seem to be quite as good as snap-on.

The snap-on ones are the best I have. I don't like the newer style grips as much. These seem to fit screws better and keep from stripping out.

I'd say you need two sets of screwdrivers. Good ones that you use as actual screwdrivers, and cheap ones that you use for everything they tell you not to use it for :lol:
 

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I was looking for a screwdriver set and settled on a Wiha 30297 12-Piece set. Amazon has them for $82.56, but Wiha USA has them for $68.39 plus $3.99 shipping.

The linked page has special prices on many other Wiha sets.

EDIT: when I went to check out from Wiha USA, the cart had the regular price. I ordered over the phone at the special price.
 
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I love my Wiha bits and drivers. Really. However, in my experience Wiha USA is a lousy distributor. They don't answer questions directly, they reply slowly, they ship after their promised time, etc..

Typical Mittelstand behavior. Awesome at making things, terrible at everything else.
 

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A few months back, I really wanted to buy a set of Wiha drivers when I was buying some NWS pliers from Chadstoolbox.com but they couldn't get them for me. They showed the drivers on their site but after I had paid and there was no shipment for about two weeks they admitted that they were out of stock. "We expect your drivers to arrive soon", they said.

OK. I waited several weeks for delivery and was in contact with Chads several times. After getting the "runaround" and excuses from Chads over and over, I finally canceled the order. Irritated? Yes I was. They finally told me they sometimes experienced delays in delivery from Wiha. I said screw it and just bought a set of Wera from Amazon.
 
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However, in my experience Wiha USA is a lousy distributor. They don't answer questions directly, they reply slowly, they ship after their promised time, etc.
They finally told me they sometimes experienced delays in delivery from Wiha. I said screw it and just bought a set of Wera from Amazon.
Screw it? :lol:

To follow up: Wiha USA did well by me. Placed my order by telephone Tuesday AM, received e-mail invoice Wednesday AM, screwdrivers arrived Friday.
 

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I have been an electrician for 20 years, and i have used Klein screwdrivers for the VAST majority of that time. At some point during that time, the metallurgy of the Klein screwdriver tips seems to have changed. The Klein 4" shaft #2 Phillips is especially known for rounding out. I have ruined many.

I tried the Wiha insulated set from Sears, but it just did not work out. There is something dimensionally wrong with the slotted screwdrivers. I do not see why this has to be an issue. Klein (USA), Southwire (China), Greenlee (Taiwan), Ideal (Taiwan) and others basically make the EXACT same keystone slotted screwdriver. They are pretty much identical. I see no reason why Wiha and Wera and other quality lines could not just copy these screwdrivers, but with better technology (metallurgy, Wera's laser tip…).

My current Klein #2 is rounding out AGAIN. I will be replacing it, soon, with a Wiha or Wera insulated #2 Phillips. This time, i will buy a slimline version so the thickness of the shaft will not cause any issues.

I will probably stick with the Klein slotted screwdrivers for now.

note: the Greenlee and Ideal screwdrivers are at least anecdotally better metallurgy wise.
 
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note: the Greenlee and Ideal screwdrivers are at least anecdotally better metallurgy wise. But… I will **** a d*** under a Christmas tree before i work with Asian screwdrivers.

Where can I pick up the Asian versions? lol...
 

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I have been an electrician for 20 years, and i have used Klein screwdrivers for the VAST majority of that time. At some point during that time, the metallurgy of the Klein screwdriver tips seems to have changed. The Klein 4" shaft #2 Phillips is especially known for rounding out. I have ruined many.

I tried the Wiha insulated set from Sears, but it just did not work out. There is something dimensionally wrong with the slotted screwdrivers. I do not see why this has to be an issue. Klein (USA), Southwire (China), Greenlee (Taiwan), Ideal (Taiwan) and others basically make the EXACT same keystone slotted screwdriver. They are pretty much identical. I see no reason why Wiha and Wera and other quality lines could not just copy these screwdrivers, but with better technology (metallurgy, Wera's laser tip…).

My current Klein #2 is rounding out AGAIN. I will be replacing it, soon, with a Wiha or Wera insulated #2 Phillips. This time, i will buy a slimline version so the thickness of the shaft will not cause any issues.

I will probably stick with the Klein slotted screwdrivers for now.

note: the Greenlee and Ideal screwdrivers are at least anecdotally better metallurgy wise. But… I will **** a d*** under a Christmas tree before i work with Asian screwdrivers.

I don't think the greenlees are taiwan (at least now). I recall them being chinese last time I looked at them in sears.
 

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So, i ended up buying a 6pc Wera 300 set today. The version with a #1 and #2 Phillips, #1 and #2 Robertson, .8x4.0 and 1.2x6.5 slotted. The grips feel really nice and the laser tips look pretty functional.

Earlier today, I looked at a Wiha 3000 series set. I did not buy it because the #2 Phillips had a 6" shaft. The Wiha set was manufactured in Germany and Assembled in the USA. The Wera set, on the other hand, is made in the Czech Republic. So… I'm a hypocrite. To the German guy who used to manufacture these screwdrivers, it may as well be China. He just knows he does not make them anymore. I need to tone it down with my rhetoric.
 

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Don't know if its already been suggested but the GearWrench 6 piece set was a great deal back when it was $15 a couple months ago from advanced. Not sure if it is the quality or the complete set you're looking for but it is definetly a great buy if you can get it when it goes back on sell for $15. I'll post side by side comparison pics in a little bit of that set compared to my mac torques II 8 piece set.
 

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Here is the smaller sk set in my overflow box which is the HF 44". The set the op referred to comes in a huge plastic tray that fills this entire drawer. I have it but it is at my dads in CT. I will post pics next time I go down. It's an awsome set. The precision screw drivers you see in the pic belong to the big set. I didn't know you could still get the big set anywhere let alone at advance auto. I would say get it if it is available. You will be happy. I currently use snap on screw drivers because they fit my wee little hands better.
 

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Here is the smaller sk set in my overflow box which is the HF 44". The set the op referred to comes in a huge plastic tray that fills this entire drawer. I have it but it is at my dads in CT. I will post pics next time I go down. It's an awsome set. The precision screw drivers you see in the pic belong to the big set. I didn't know you could still get the big set anywhere let alone at advance auto. I would say get it if it is available. You will be happy. I currently use snap on screw drivers because they fit my wee little hands better.
you have the older french made drivers. i prefer them. the handles are slightly tapered and are more ergonomic. the new us made drivers are almost square and have no taper. i have a couple, they are a quality driver but i don't like them nearly as well as all of my older french made drivers. even though they use the same part numbers there are also not a match to the old drivers and have handles more like a pry bar or parts scraper.

kudos for being us made, raspberries for not being an improvement over the old ones
 

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Felo and Vessel are my drivers of choice. For the European pozi drives and US phillips standard, I rely on the Felo (almost everything in the Frico 500 thru 550 series including the M-tec Mag tipped sleeves) line of drivers. The comfort and sure grip of these babies are unmatched IMO. Love these so much I bought their VDE (red handle) offering with the same sure grip and then went completely gaga and bought the Heyco/Felo (green handle) torx offering in the same handle.

After all of this I thought I was done buying screwdrivers, right? No, it turns out that Japan has their own version of the cross tip. If you ever worked on a computer or any Japanese product, you'll find our phillips std is a camming nightmare, because the standard US phillips doesn't seat properly in a Japanese cross head screw. The good news is that the JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) design was made to work with the US phillips std. So if your looking for a better working relationship with your Japanese products, then my recommendation would be the Vessel Megadora series. This is Japan's high end version of the screwdriver and the US buying consumers best chance of getting the best quality, availability and price of Japan's JIS offerings.

I've tried dozens of name brand drivers with less than satisfactory results. I married myself to klein for a while until they started taking the low road on quality for profit. If you ever used the klein drives of 30 years ago, then you know what I am talking about. All of these experiences have helped me recognize what a precision tool feels like. Vessel and Felo drivers immediately strip away the doubts. I'm NOT telling you what you should be buying, I'm just saying.

With the ergonomic intelligence engineered in these drivers, you would be hard pressed to find a better option in both feel and performance. Sure there are companies that offer great screwdrivers, but Vessel and Felo are obsessed and built for one thing in mind...SCREWDRIVERS!! You want a great titanium hammer get a stiletto, you want a great driver....

However if you are not matching the fastener with the proper driver, then you have a far greater problem than the performance of any high-end driver. The tips, shaft and handles are perfectly balanced and sized for the fasteners for which they are intended. Exceeding these limits to the point of damage is not the fault of the manufacturer. Used properly, these precision instruments can last you a lifetime. If you think that the job may exceed these limits, then you may want to consider the industrial diamond or tin coated tips for over stressed applications. What you get in additional performance and durability out ways the initial cost. Less trips to your local hardware store and more time focused on the task at hand is it's own reward. The better drivers have a greater resistance to damage and exceed the limits of the lesser options. The High-end manufactures have the greatest understanding of these physics and engineer a greater number of drive options (other then the standard 6 drivers) to achieve the proper fit. Whatever screwdriver manufacturer you decide to saddle up with, keep the science in mind and exercise common sense when using any fastening tool.

http://www.vessel.co.jp/english/company/info/history/

http://www.felo.com/en/
 
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