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Screws or nails?

Glue, screws or nails?

  • Screws

    Votes: 69 93.2%

  • Nails

    Votes: 5 6.8%

  • Glue

    Votes: 11 14.9%

  • No glue

    Votes: 14 18.9%
  • Total voters
    74
  • Poll closed .
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Rwhitney

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So I am about to start working on my shop wall. I will only have a single wall to hang my tools, Wood and such off as such I am dressing it up but making it sturdy and built to last.

My plan... it’s currently a 20 ft long by 11ft high 2x4 stud wall. I am insulating at this time and then plan to do a birch plywood 3/4 4x8 panels. 5 of them should cover the entire space. Then stain and Polly the entire wall to dress it up and help with water proofing. I am not worried about seams showing as I will have my tool stations and a French cleat system in front and covering the major seams.

My question is would nails or screws be better long term to hold up the 3/4in plywood if I am mounting and hanging tools off it? Should I also glue the plywood to the studs or would that just be overkill?

Thoughts and opinions Are always welcomed.

Thanks,
Richard
 
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hector

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Re: Screws or mails?

harley jim said:
Definitely screws for me. It costs a little more and takes a little more time but I use deck screws and I wouldn't glue it. I know I can hang anything on the wall and it will stay there.
Jmho, Jim
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Yup, Spax or GRK trim head screws. Head doesn't strip when driven, won't split wood, and tensile strength and shear specs significantly over the requirement.
 
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nadogail

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Re: Screws or mails?

IMHO, it depends on what you intend to accomplish. Nails are cheap and quick, they can be expected to hold something together until the glue dries. Screws are generally remove-able, and good for access panels, good glue joints are often stronger than the wooden parts they hold together.

In short; each have their advantages, depending on just what is expected of the situation.
 
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Leaflessshadetree

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Re: Screws or mails?

Nails cheaper, easier and won't be as visible.
Screws will make it easier to take down if you need to but from what you describe I don't expect that to happen.
 
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Re: Screws or mails?

Only reason to use screws is if you want to remove them easily. Otherwise nails are faster, cheaper, and usually better.
 
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ace10

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Re: Screws or mails?

Screws. Especially if the cleat system isn't going into framing.

My go to is GRK.
 
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ddawg16

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Re: Screws or mails?

Since it's just the one wall, screws.

It sounds like there is the chance the wall someday get moved or removed.

Screws also allow you to make mods
 
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fourbyford

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Re: Screws or mails?

Rwhitney said:
My plan... it’s currently a 20 ft long by 11ft high 2x4 stud wall. I am insulating at this time and then plan to do a birch plywood 3/4 4x8 panels. 5 of them should cover the entire space.
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I've read and re-read... maybe it's just me...
Having a bit of a problem figuring this out...
Regardless how the plywood is fastened, we seem to be missing the better part of 3 sheets...

20' long. 11' high = 220 sq/ft

A 4' x 8' sheet of ply = 32 sq/ft x 5 sheets = 160 sq/ft

If you plan to cover the entire wall... it'll take more than 5!
 
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Glemon

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Re: Screws or mails?

I used ring shank nails and ended up having to take a piece of OSB off. The OSB gave up before the nails did. Either screws or ring shank nails will hold the wood on without glue, even if you are hanging a lot of tools.
 
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RivennHewn

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Re: Screws or mails?

I’ve typo’d in a heading before, but never had this much fun with it!
 
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king nero

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Re: Screws or mails?

Bert_ said:
Only reason to use screws is if you want to remove them easily. Otherwise nails are faster, cheaper, and usually better.
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Why would you say nails are better than screws?

My vote is for screws as well. I only use glue on things like cabinets and speaker boxes, which actually might benefit from an 'unmovable' connection. Otherwise, screws are plenty good.
 
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cj7jeep81

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Re: Screws or mails?

king nero said:
Why would you say nails are better than screws?

My vote is for screws as well. I only use glue on things like cabinets and speaker boxes, which actually might benefit from an 'unmovable' connection. Otherwise, screws are plenty good.
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Assuming you are using a pneumatic nailer, nails are significantly faster and cheaper. For a small wall like this, I'd probably go screws. But I've hung 50 or 60 sheets of OSB so far in my shop, and all with 2 3/8" nails in a nail gun.
 
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king nero

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Re: Screws or mails?

Let there be no doubt that I agree with the cheaper and faster part, it's the better I question.
 
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Bert_

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Re: Screws or mails?

king nero said:
Why would you say nails are better than screws?

My vote is for screws as well. I only use glue on things like cabinets and speaker boxes, which actually might benefit from an 'unmovable' connection. Otherwise, screws are plenty good.
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Nails are better in shear. Most structural fasteners are used in shear. Screws are better resisting pull out.

For hanging some plywood on an interior wall neither one is much of a concern.
 
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NUTTSGT

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Sorry to ruin the fun. I edited the thread title.

I'd use nails for speed and screws if I ever might be moving this wall or need to get behind it. Either, I clicked "No Glue".
 
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Git

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Insulate and drywall. Save your plywood money for french cleats on the entire wall. Here is my sidewall while I was installing 3 1/2" wide cleats
 

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SuperCat

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Use screws so you can remove panels later. No glue.
Garages always change over time, you will eventually need to remove the panels, so make it easy on yourself. If you are hanging a bunch of stuff on the panels, screws will resist pulling out much better. Unless you're hanging a big block chevy on your wall, then there might be a problem. Good luck and post pictures so everyone can be jealous of your shop! :thumbup:
 
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