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P880

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The Legacy HD6600 sounds like a product that will be perfect for my application. However, I have some concerns about what to put under it. I recently purchased a new home for me with 15 year old concrete that the slab itself is in great shape. I have experience with many sealers; epoxy and polyaspartic coatings that I have applied and had the professionals apply, all with good results. For my new garage I am looking for a low gloss or matte finish with a charcoal or black color under or added. My initial plan was to apply an acid stain and sealer prior to moving in. First time attempting acid stain. The day I received the keys for the house I cleaned the floor with a ZEP citrus cleaner and a rented powered floor scrubber, polisher. I then hit it with 100 grit sand paper with the same floor scrubber. Cleaned the floor again with the citrus cleaner and thought I would be on my way to applying acid stain and then a sealer.
But, there are still two huge black stains still on my floor after cleaning and sanding. I decided to halt the project there because I was completely unsure of what the stains would look like if I added an acid stain over them?? Now a few months later I would like to proceed.
Sanding the stains with my hand held 4” grinder does nothing to these stains. The stains seem to be part of the concrete, my impression is that it is an acid that was spilled on the concrete and created the stain, similar to what I am hoping to do to the entire garage.
I did not want to attempt to clean the stains with muriatic acid, tsp, or paint stripper after seeing the warnings for acid stains and concrete cleaned with it.
I am not sure what to apply now, I am easy on my garage, thou I do drive two cars in and out each day. I have no problem reapplying something every couple of years to keep the finish nice. I would prefer a product (sealer) that I can reapply that goes over the old nicely.
What if I acid stained the floor everywhere that the current stains are not, then covered that with a charcoal translucent stain and then sealed it?

First Post, thank you for all the good info here!!
 

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I was going to mention. If you go with a dark stain it may add to the look or at least it will stand out less. The sealer should not be a problem as long as water does not bead on the stain.

Our HD6600 is not epoxy but hold up very well compared to similar products and is easily re-coated.

If the stain beads water, you need to keep cleaning.
 
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Legacy, thank you for the tip on making sure the stain does not bead water. I think I am good there.

I am going to go for the acid stain soon. If I am reading correct, the acid stain is a good pre-coat for the HD6600 clear?

If the acid stain does not turn out to my liking, do you have a product the I can apply after the acid stain before the clear, that is charcoal color or black?

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I've been told by a local concrete products retailer whom is also an auto restoration hobbyist, that he recently removed the concrete sealer from his shop floor. He said it can not stand up to gas, oil, trans fluid spills. He said it was worse than nothing and gave an example of an oil spill under a car he was working on. Rolled onto the spill area and the sealer had melted and his shirt was sticking to the product like goo. Said it dissolved almost instantly, and he got fed up. Removed it with a strong cleaner and power washer.
Thoughts?
I've been thinking about sealing with new shop floor with something like HD6600
Fred
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It is wise to match the coating product to the purpose of the floor.
Hello Fred,

What are you using your shop for? That is the point being made here. If you are just parking your vehicles and doing light maintenance, then this type of sealer is more than adequate in most cases. The key is to clean up spills right after they happen. If you let them sit for a while and depending on the type of spill then yes, you may have problems. Also remember that there is a difference in acrylics sealers by brand and the more premium products such as this one deliver better protection.

If you are an automotive hobbyist who has frequent spills and let them sit while you finish your project (I'm guilty of this), then you will want something stronger like epoxy. You can spill and clean without any issues.
 

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So you dont recommend hd6600 for this application?
If I acid stain, dont I need a sealer over top?

Fred

I was referring to one of the posts that described a coating being beat up by use and abuse.

The HD6600 is a good sealer to be applied over an acid stain treatment.

Sorry for the confusion.
 
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I decided to purchase the HD6600 and the Black Acetone Stain. After testing a few Acid Stain colors that I did not like I decided to do the Acetone stain to cover up the stains I had on my garage floor.
A few days ago I emptied my garage and cleaned the surface with a 17” floor scrubber with a medium grit scrubber pad. I then pressure washed it twice.
This morning I applied the first coat of HD6600, which was recommended being applied before the Acetone Stain. The sealer went on very easy with a roller and dried quickly in 65 degree temps.
I then applied the black stain with an acetone Sprayer. The results look great and I love the color. The only issue is that I don’t have enough product. The instructions state the state one gallon of stain will cover 400-600 sq feet. My 500 square feet only has one light coating with one gallon. One small area I was able to get two coats, but I really like it. It covered the nasty stains as well. Wish I had ordered about three times as much product since it is Friday and the earliest I could get more product would be Tuesday. The entire contents of my garage are in my house and will have to stay there till I finish, oh well. Pain in the **** project, however the finished result will be really cool
Legacy can the stain powder be air shipped?
 
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