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47chevy COE

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I’m searching for a mag drill on an upcoming project. I have nearly 40 holes to drill in a bus frame, and I’d rather not with a cordless hand drill. I’ve looked around for a used one, but all I can find are pretty beat up. Does anyone have any experience with the Milwaukee or dewalt units that are just shy of $1000? Any other recommendations? I’ve never been around these.
 
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I have the Milwaukee 4272. I can't imagine anything negative to say about it. Great features, works well, reasonable form factor. I got it for $500 used with a handfull of annular cutters on ebay, so that was awesome. I'd buy it at full price or a Hougen 904 any day.

All I normally see is ancient clapped out monsters for $1000 on the local used market. Pass.
 

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Milwaukee 4204 or the big dog 4206 were always what I used at work. The Hougans are also supposed to be decent too, but that is only second hand knowledge.

Swivel base is a game changer IMHO.

Unfortunately they are super expensive. There are a lot of cheaper imported models that all look like they come from the same factory. I wonder how they work?

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I've had my eye on one of the Evolution mag drills, haven't used one myself, but I have had good luck with one of their cold saws.
 

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I have the DeWalt and it's been a very good drill for use with annular cutters. 40 holes isn't bad. If it's a one off thing pilot drill and use car reamers to bring holes to size.
 

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Many years age we swapped out a torsion bar rear suspension for air ride in a Kenworth, there were four guys using the mag drill on the right side(one drilling three to pick it up and catch it when it fell off).
I did the left side by hand with a old D handle 1/2" corded drill and a 4' bar for leverage.
I was finished the left side and into the 3rd beer when they gave up and adopted my method......................
 

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Just pay attention to the taper. You may need to get an adapter to use a drill chuck or you'll have to also invest in annular cutters.
 

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I just bought a 32mm capacity Fein. Turns out their cheap range is made in India, seems to work fine.
My 65mm capacity Fein that I have had for several years is German and very high quality, but several times the price.
 
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47chevy COE

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Thanks for all the input. I did find a used hougen 904 that looks in pretty decent shape for $650 with a few cutters. I’ll likely go that route. I’ve got a few weeks to decide yet.
 
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I did some more looking on the bus frame. This project requires me to slide the front axle back and the rear axle forward. It’s going to be close to 50 5/8” holes that need drilled. I think I’ll be better off with an annular cutter vs a drill bit.
 

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I did some more looking on the bus frame. This project requires me to slide the front axle back and the rear axle forward. It’s going to be close to 50 5/8” holes that need drilled. I think I’ll be better off with an annular cutter vs a drill bit.
Hougen also makes a right angle drill that might work for you.
 

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I did some more looking on the bus frame. This project requires me to slide the front axle back and the rear axle forward. It’s going to be close to 50 5/8” holes that need drilled. I think I’ll be better off with an annular cutter vs a drill bit.
Annular cutter is the way to go. You get to take advantage of the through coolant aspect of the mag drill.

I have an hmd904s (the swivel model) and the swivel action is really a nice feature. You can lock the magnet down in the neighborhood of your hole location and then use the swivel to do the final line up. Especially on a vertical surface, trying to line up with your mark holding a heavy *** mag drill 50 times is going to get trying real quick.

Additionally, the swivel model gets you more extension from the mag base which is very valuable at times.

Good luck.

Edit: I forgot to say before that used mag drills might look like they're in worse shape than they actually are. The spiral swarf that results from cutting with annular cutters spins around and round and will absolutely strip the paint from the whole front of the drill. Also, coolant gets everywhere so it can give the appearance that's its dirty or greasy.

I was also shocked at how bad a lot of the used ones looked until I started using mine and saw what can happen.
 
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Last place I worked used both Hougen and Milwaukee mag drills. I don't think either was preferred by the mechanics, they both worked fine, and I never heard of any issues. I assume we had both brands because different people ordered them at different times. On a project I was involved with, we used the Milwaukee to cut multiple 2.69" diameter holes in stainless plate and no issues with it. For your project, definitely get some carbide tipped annular cutters / hole saws.
 

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My Hougen 904 is the tool I least expected to ever buy, but would be one of the last I'd ever sell. Once you have a mag drill you will constantly find uses for it.
 

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We rented one for a few holes a work a few years back. Service tech gave us specs, picked it up on way in, dropped off on the way out.
 

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Of the sub-$1000-but-not-bargain-basement-generic-China mag drills, my preference is the DeWalt. I pick that over the Hougen in the same price range because it has a 2 speed gearbox and is overall a bit more refined IMO (at the cost of being a Taiwan import and not being from Hougen, which is one of the first names in annular cutter mag drills). Note that this is primarily designed for use with annular cutters, but does come with an adapter to use a drill chuck so you can use twist drills. Drills in this range generally don't have a spindle taper or anything- just a direct weldon chuck, and the drill chuck adapter simply fits in the weldon chuck and is threaded to accept a drill chuck on the other end. There is no reverse or anything like that- all you're going to do is drill holes. Also, drill travel and clearance under the chuck tends to be pretty limited as they are designed first and foremost to accommodate annular cutters with a max cutting depth of 2". If you use twist drills, it helps to use mechanics length or screw machine length drills.

Now some other mag drills, generally bigger and more expensive, are not designed so much around annular cutter work. Milwaukee for example made mag drills for decades before annular cutters really became a thing, and their old school (and most expensive) models reflect this. They were designed primarily for twist drilling with either chucks or taper shank drills. You can also use a weldon chuck for annular cutters, of course, but that is just one tool in the toolbox. They have both multiple speed gearboxes and electronic variable speed, and are reversible. Thus they can be (and often are) used for tapping operations as well as drilling. They also have 10+" of travel. Milwaukee isn't the only option- I personally have a CS Unitec/BDS with a swivel base, 2MT spindle, variable speed, etc. It cost several times what my DeWalt did, but it has greatly expanded capabilities (though honestly for just popping holes with an annular cutter the DeWalt was a little nicer to use). So just be aware that if you buy an old used Milwaukee or something, it might not be quite as straightforward as popping in an annular cutter depending on what tooling comes with it.
 
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