Securing Your Garage
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jerk_chicken
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Then comes the problem where if they hurt themselves...
Might have to move to Texas. This country's litigenous society makes me sick. I've also heard of burglars getting injured and successfully suing their victims. Only in America does this bullsh*t fly.
67 455 Bird ragtop
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I tied mine into my existing alarm system. Senors on the side entry door and window. Glass breakage detector near window. And a motion sensor located where I can pull my car into the garage without setting off the alarm but if anyone enters and starts walking around it will set off the alarm. Motion sensor lights all aorund my property for both security and safety at night helps. Fire station in back yard. And to top it off the local Chief of police is my next door neighbor and he keeps a marked car parked in his drive. I feel pretty safe but ya never know. So, as a back up I have a nice 12 gauge pump kept at the ready. While a 9mm, .45, or other hand gun works just fine. There is nothing more horrifying than the sound of a pump action shotgun being pumped behind you...
Tech Guy
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Unfortunately this applies in Canada as well. You cannot booby trap your property as you will be charged by the police and then sued by the injured thief. The thieves seem to have more rights than the victim.
67 455 Bird ragtop
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Simple solution.. They don't get out of the garage or your property alive ...
Yeah, have a big hole dug out in the woods...problem solvedJazzyJoe
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You could install a motion alarm with a built in relay on the receiver. If you connect a bell to the relay it would give them a shock when the bell goes off. Probably enough to scare them away.
Since most people break in the back or side, so you could arm it before you leave the front. If an alarm goes off in the back they will most likely just leave rather then risk it going off again.
This outdoor motion sensor has a powered relay on the sensor http://www.gadgetshack.com/widralwimose.html you would need a 12V bell to attach to it.
Since most people break in the back or side, so you could arm it before you leave the front. If an alarm goes off in the back they will most likely just leave rather then risk it going off again.
This outdoor motion sensor has a powered relay on the sensor http://www.gadgetshack.com/widralwimose.html you would need a 12V bell to attach to it.
Spaggs
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Dusk to dawn lights are better than motion detectors because a bad guy will approach a dusk to dawn light more times than one that is already on. Keeping your tools out of sight of visitors like the pest control guy or meter reader are also helpful ie cabinets, etc. Dogs are always a good thing. I've got a Tea Cup Chiwawa with ears half the size of his body and a half Lab half German Shepherd that has a big bark. Between the two, they make a lot of racket. Good long throw dead bolts with a steel fortified door jams are always good, too. Signs are also good. I've got one at the front of my property that says "Beware of Dog." I've got another one closer to my garage that says "Forget the Dog, Beware of Owner."
Spaggs
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Sorry for this to be my first post however this is just a retarded statement to me. Maybe its because im from a country that isnt huge on guns (and dont get me wrong guns DONT kill people, People kill people) So directing a firearm in the direction of another human is just disgusting and IMO you having just stated that, should be enough reason for you to be striped of all weapons for life.
The thought you would point a device at a human that which you are hopefully aware of what its capable of doing, may god have mercy on you and anyone around you.
Something for you to think about, that person trying to get into your garage could be your brother, son or relative and so on....
djd99
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Thanks for your opinion but I agree with the op, if someone breaks into my shop I also have a loaded 12 gauge on hand and he'll be lucky to get out alive. Come try to steal what I've worked hard for as It might be your last day on earth!..........
.hetkind
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We have multiple techniques, 200lb of canine, a road with restricted access, only access to the shop is either right by the house, or a ATV up a muddy back road (road is so muddy and steep that only a dozer can access it, bobcats get stuck), sheathing with OSB under the metal, decent locks. Even if someone braved the steep gravel road to get to the house, there is a second road to get to the shop.
As for police protection, on a good day they will be a while...
Oh yea, one of our neighbors is STILL in jail from the 70's after a rather grisly murder of city folks who were snooping where they didn't belong.
Howard
As for police protection, on a good day they will be a while...
Oh yea, one of our neighbors is STILL in jail from the 70's after a rather grisly murder of city folks who were snooping where they didn't belong.
Howard
Falcon67
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Electric fence (to keep the dog in, but the signs look intimidating...), loud dog, lots of automatic lights, lock overhead to track, deadbolt. I also have a motion alarm I use sometimes. You just hang it up somewhere and you better get to it before the delay times out.
Lookin4'67Galaxieconv
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Let me see if I got this straight...you think it's perfectly fine to own firearms just as long as you don't use them...ever?!?
I don't imagine any relative of mine is going to be breaking into my garage. If they are, I certainly hope they have enough sense to identify themselves.
mackrmnn
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So you would let someone break in and not do anything about it? Whats your address?
Uhh...all of the above posters' comments duly noted (weapons purchased for personal defense are worthless if the user cannot commit to using the weapon, in the appropriate circumstances--and can even be more dangerous than being unarmed as the weapon can be turned on the hapless owner)...I'd like to make a different point. The user to whom Nerdstar responded didn't indicate anything about pointing a weapon at anyone. One doesn't point a weapon without an intention to fire. The user to whom Nerdstar responded advised that he believed the mere sound of a pump shotgun being cycled was sufficient to intimidate any intruders, were they attempting to enter his abode while he was present. No pointing required. So Nerdstar--your point doesn't make a lot of sense.
Oh, and Nerdstar, kind of a weird way to introduce yourself to the group.
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Most of those stories are urban legends, passed around the internet as being true but just fabrications. The ones that are true usually have some reasoning behind it. The case of the lady who got burned by the hot coffee she spilled on herself is a prime example. The McDonald's coffe was scalding hot and complaints about burns from it had been made before. Initially she only wanted $20,000 to cover medical expenses but McD's wouldn't settle. It escalated from there. She was judged to be 20% liable for her injuries and McDonald's 80%. Here is some info I would more likely trust from the internet as it is the Consumer Attorneys Of California Website.
http://www.caoc.com/CA/index.cfm?event=showPage&pg=facts
Contradiction lawfarm.
Im from Melbourne Australia. Long time lurker love this place
. To secure our home garage we place locks on the garage door which stops it from being opened be from the outside or in.sensor system which is connected to the house.
Sensor lights all around.
Combination door lock ( which is good ever since hearing about lock bumping)
Dirty big locks and chains to valubles
NOT telling anyone about what items i have as well as when wheeling valuable out i ensure no ones around watching.
Motorcycle never take a direct route home with it. so i can be followed etc.. I dont keep motorcycle trailer out the front of my house so again no one can tell i have them.
Ill also have a response of more of your comments after PIZZA YUM
thank you
OccupantRJ
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Contradiction lawfarm.
Im from Melbourne Australia. Long time lurker love this place
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The one thing you may not be familiar with is the determination and speed of action of a drug-needy thief. At the company I work for, we have a couple of out-buildings for utility storage. One is never locked, only the padlock hung into the hasp to keep it closed, and rarely in a manner which would make it look like it is locked. It is just to keep the door shut. One night, thieves beat the locks off 2 walk doors, 2 garage doors, 2 shipping containers, and the hasped building. They beat the hasp assembly off the door with a pick-axe to get into a relatively empty building and never slowed down to look at the lock.
Another time, we were loading a semi truck at the dock, during daylight, with 3 people involved. 40 feet away, employee cars were parked in sight. During the 2 hour loading, someone used a screwdriver and vice grips to twist the door lock out of a Ford pickup, second in the row, and stole the stereo out of it. No one ever saw anyone near the vehicles. We know the timeline, because the stereo was in the truck at 7 am, but not at break.
Your comment about your locks "stopping" anyone are very naive. They will only serve to slow down a determined thief. Around here, they will risk the alarm system just to get what they can grab before the cops come. Oh, and I live in what is considered a relatively safe area. The drugs make these guys very aggresive. I agree that "out of sight, out of mind" is one of the better defenses.
AgentZ
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If your vehicle access door is on rails, clamps or vice grips behind the rollers on the rails make it really hard to open them. Just dont forget they are there and try to force the door open!
AmickRacing
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Buy HF tools, or at least tool box's? I'd think this would just disgust the thief and they'd leave.
I've done a lot of thinking about this kind of thing. My "dream/goal" is to build a big shop with an apartment on one end. Needless to say, having a garage or house broken into is a bad thing, but since they'd be attached it'd be a 2 for 1 special, and doubly as bad. I doubt I'll have windows in my shop, and minimal windows down low on the house (but enough not to make it look like a dungeon).
One other thing, hopefully I'll be able to park all of my vehicles inside 90% of the time. This might help with the surprise effect since no one will really be able to tell if I'm there or not unless they sit and watch constantly.
I agree with most of what's said here, locks will only keep the honest people out, and might discourage a lazy thief. While I'd ideally like nothing to be stolen, I love the idea of a big gun safe for the valuable non replaceable stuff and hope for the best with the rest.
I've done a lot of thinking about this kind of thing. My "dream/goal" is to build a big shop with an apartment on one end. Needless to say, having a garage or house broken into is a bad thing, but since they'd be attached it'd be a 2 for 1 special, and doubly as bad. I doubt I'll have windows in my shop, and minimal windows down low on the house (but enough not to make it look like a dungeon).
One other thing, hopefully I'll be able to park all of my vehicles inside 90% of the time. This might help with the surprise effect since no one will really be able to tell if I'm there or not unless they sit and watch constantly.
I agree with most of what's said here, locks will only keep the honest people out, and might discourage a lazy thief. While I'd ideally like nothing to be stolen, I love the idea of a big gun safe for the valuable non replaceable stuff and hope for the best with the rest.
CarCrafter
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For the collection at home, I have 4 angry dogs and lots of guns I am prepared to use. If someone were to try something when I'm not home, hopefully the dogs will cause deep puncture wounds. Maybe they'll leave only enough DNA to identify that someone was actually there. If I were home, I'd hope that I could cause exit wounds as well. Either before or after some form of torture, water boarding sound inviting. I'm kidding. Although I sure am I glad I live in a state with castle doctrine!
The tools at work is a little more tricky, but a fellow tech actually suggested that we take the wheels off our tool boxes and set them on cinder blocks to help hinder theft. There has been a rash of break-ins around here with regards to dealerships and shops. I have insurance but would rather not deal with the hassle. The theory is that hopefully they'll give up trying to lift a couple tons with just a few guys instead of rolling it right onto the trailer. Now if they came with a forklift, I give up.
You know, some people might take it lightly that we'd dam near kill for our tools or our possessions. Yet what they fail to understand is that to many of us, those tools are a means for us to survive. IF I don't have my tools, I can't work, I won't feed my family. To hell if I'm going to let that happen if I can stop it. If they break into my home, they sure as hell aren't going to be invited to stay for bbq. I will however say that I won't kill the m/f unless its justifiable, cause I sure couldn't do squat for my family from behind bars.
The tools at work is a little more tricky, but a fellow tech actually suggested that we take the wheels off our tool boxes and set them on cinder blocks to help hinder theft. There has been a rash of break-ins around here with regards to dealerships and shops. I have insurance but would rather not deal with the hassle. The theory is that hopefully they'll give up trying to lift a couple tons with just a few guys instead of rolling it right onto the trailer. Now if they came with a forklift, I give up.
You know, some people might take it lightly that we'd dam near kill for our tools or our possessions. Yet what they fail to understand is that to many of us, those tools are a means for us to survive. IF I don't have my tools, I can't work, I won't feed my family. To hell if I'm going to let that happen if I can stop it. If they break into my home, they sure as hell aren't going to be invited to stay for bbq. I will however say that I won't kill the m/f unless its justifiable, cause I sure couldn't do squat for my family from behind bars.
54FordPanel
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dolfans
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In Sept 2009 family Handyman mag they did a project on protecting your garage.One thing they did was use window film and the other was using steel bars on windows.