engineer2
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The Arlo Pro 4-6 mo battery life is a concern and adds to the list of stuff to maintain. People have modded the original Arlo for external power.
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ddawg16
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NVR 400
It came with a 2TB drive. The internet setup is super easy.
I'm still playing around with motion detect.
With it setup for 24/7 recording of 4 cameras I was getting about 2 weeks or recording time.
I'm trying to configure the front camera for continuous recording and all the others motion detect. I just need to spend the time to do it.
Another feature is to allow it to record to an off-site computer.
WeekendWarrior83
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Fair enough. Just another FYI, I noticed the Law office I deal with uses the Arlo as well. Just make sure you do some research. The off the shelf systems have come a long way in the past few years.
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They are coming out with a power adapter: https://www.arlo.com/en-us/products/arlo-pro/outdoor-charging-cable.aspx
ddawg16
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It has a spare bay for another drive.
And, if you set it up for Motion Detect....it goes a LOT longer....
https://www.costco.com/Lorex-8-Chan...s-and-1080p-PTZ-Camera.product.100317970.html
Looking at that package and then spending the money to add 2 4k cameras right away does not seem to be a bad price at all. Its cheaper than buying it all from Lorex direct.
Looking at that package and then spending the money to add 2 4k cameras right away does not seem to be a bad price at all. Its cheaper than buying it all from Lorex direct.
vettex2
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Do you have the Pro?
ddawg16
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That is a good price....
I paid $700 (I think) for 6 cameras.....and no PTZ....but I do plan to add one.
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Synology also has good recording devices. I am not sure they have online backup though, something I need to look into.
Rick's Performance Computing on YouTube (
) has a good overview of his security system.
Rick's Performance Computing on YouTube (
pfmg
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You can get good home system for under $500. This pic is from my Swann system at home. 4 HD cameras. NVR holds 2-3 weeks, has motion activation if needed, I pad remote app. I have been runnning a Swann system at home for 5 years, never a issue. It's downside is the user interface stuff, it's not as user friendly as the high end systems. We just installed a $30k 10 camera system in work, the user interface is phenomenal, it's not needed for a small home system.
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ez-duzit
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pf--I would be very pissed off if I spent 100'$ on a security camera that produced an image like that.
pfmg
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The image this system puts out are good, that's a Iphone picture of the iPad, so something is lost transit. Also any camera struggles at night in low light situations. I had an issue during the holidays, some kids were going through the neighborhood smashing Christmas decorations. We got some great video of them doing it, We called the cops and they were impressed with the system. Were able to identify the local kids.
I run the Hikvision cameras. (3MP Turrets) and synology diskstation/surveillance station for a solution. Have 6 running and always keep 30 days in rotation. Outdoor camera's record 24/7. The 2 indoor cameras only grab motion. Android/iPhone/PC/Mac support with no annual fees etc.
WeekendWarrior83
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I have the original. When I got mine that was all they had, but it still works well for what I've needed it for so far. I may add a Pro and/or a Q (their wired indoor camera) onto my system in the future though.
seagravedriver
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Thank you. I hate to get carried away. When I bought a gun safe years ago, the salesman said something that I still remember. "The guy who can break into a safe like this will be breaking into my store, not your house".
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Does Synology have a working solution to backing up the recordings to the cloud?
hedhunter9
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We have had the Lorex system in our business for about 8-9 years.. 6 camera's on the one system and 4 camera's on the other system. We did have the hard drive fail on the oldest one last year.. But even after 9 years, the camera's still give excellent quality video. Night vision is not great with out some sort of light though.. So we added another parking lot light to help by the entry door. and we have interior lighting that stays on 24hrs.
We had 2 break in's and each time the video was clear and the police were amazed at the good video we provided.. They said most places they go to the video is grainy and almost unusable. We got positive ID of the perp from the video..
We had 2 break in's and each time the video was clear and the police were amazed at the good video we provided.. They said most places they go to the video is grainy and almost unusable. We got positive ID of the perp from the video..
vettex2
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Do you have them outside? How is the picture quality ?
They both are 720p but the pro has a wider angle.
What I like about the pro is that it can handle lower temps since it snows where I live.
WeekendWarrior83
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I haven't tried mine outside for long periods of time yet. I have had it outside overnight to watch the wildlife that was visiting me. I know a friend of mine who has one at their front door and it seems to be fine for them. I think battery life is more of a concern in the cold though. Indoors the batteries have lasted me about 10-12 months depending on camera placement and usage.
Picture quality is OK. I've attached a photo from inside my closet. The closet was pitch black so this is not the best quality image, but not shabby either considering there was just IR lighting from the camera.
The biggest drawback I find with the original is the motion sensor. There can sometimes be a delay between motion detection and the start of video recording, although you are able to adjust the motion sensor 'sensitivity'. Also you are able to use one camera's motion sensor to trigger video recording at a different camera. So if you had one at the door of your garage that detected motion, you could set all the cameras in your garage to begin recording on that event. I think that could be useful.
I would recommend the Pro over the original, since it apparently improves on the various shortcomings of the original - picture quality, motion sensor, etc. I would also recommend using a UPS (battery backup) with the base station for added security.
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one last question...was it easy to set up on your computer ?
The recordings are stored on the local NAS, and you can backup the NAS to a cloud destination, or an offsite Synology. They also offer cloud access - say from your phone when you are not home - to your recordings and live view.
Synology is behind with their web browser interface, outside of that it is a very nice solution.
$900 is about 2x as much as i'd like to spend. aside from installation simplicity, does POE offer any other advantages?
does samsung make decent systems?:
https://www.samsclub.com/sams/samsung-16ch-1080p-16x10/prod18983443.ip?xid=plp:product:1:1
ishiboo
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POE make it essentially future-proof. ONVIF POE cameras will work with just about any system in the near (10+ years) future. You can installer cheaper ones now and swap them out and they will work in the same system. They also work over regular Ethernet, so installation can be very easy and flexible.
You don't even need a NVR if you have a home computer you can leave on. You can simply install your security software on the computer.
WeekendWarrior83
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Setup is very easy. Plug the base station into your router, sync the cameras, log into their website and register and that's pretty much it. All of the controls and settings are done via a smartphone app or their web portal. Overall it works well. I've had the odd issue connecting to a camera, but that's about it.
One thing I should mention is you do need a decent internet connection for the whole thing to work properly. I am in the city so that is not a problem for me, but if you are out in the country this may not be the best solution. I think the requirement is at least 1Mbps upload.
I've got the 8 camera Lorex system, but recently added this...
http://www.presencepro.com/
It's free, and puts old cellphones back to use.... very clever....
http://www.presencepro.com/
It's free, and puts old cellphones back to use.... very clever....