Sellers on crack

[jabberwoki]

http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/tls/2613323579.html

 

[diesel research]

That hardly constitutes "on crack".

I never understood why so many on GJ get all bent out of shape when the asking price is not what THEY want.

Not crack, capitalism.

I personally wouldn't buy it, but wont get bent out of shape knowing cheaper versions are available. I will simply go and purchase the other version that meets my desires.

 

[2oolhound]

If he was on crack you'd have to take two zeros off the price. $20 would probably get him another fix.

It's a nice unit BUT... even at $200.00 you can get a 4 ton 110 volt electric winch which is what I'd do. Mind you that baby might give you more control for the final fine tuning when lowering stuff into place.

 

[slipjointed]

It's a neat hoist, but definitely not $2k neat.

 

[ibedayank]

If he was on crack you'd have to take two zeros off the price. $20 would probably get him another fix.

It's a nice unit BUT... even at $200.00 you can get a 4 ton 110 volt electric winch which is what I'd do. Mind you that baby might give you more control for the final fine tuning when lowering stuff into place.

You have a link for said 4ton hoist for $200...I would really LOVE to see this



3-ton-budgit-electric-hoistbr5-fpm-single-or-three-phase-behc0305 3 Ton Budgit Electric Hoist - 5 fpm, Single or Three Phase, BEHC0305 Price: $2,798.52 Budgit Electric Hoists - BEHC
3-ton-budgit-electric-hoistbr10-fpm-three-phase-behc0310 3 Ton Budgit Electric Hoist - 10 fpm, Three Phase, BEHC0310 Price: $3,103.74 Budgit Electric Hoists - BEHC
3-ton-harrington-electric-hoistbr35-fpm-single-phase-sner 3 Ton Harrington Electric Hoist - 3.5 fpm, Single Phase, SNER Regular Price: $3,304.04
On Sale: $2,915.33 Harrington Electric Hoist - SNER Single Speed
3-ton-jet-electric-hoist-83fpm-three-phase-ssc-series 3 Ton Jet Electric Hoist - 8.3fpm, Three Phase, SSC Series Regular Price: $3,317.27
Special Introductory Price: $2,696.73 Jet Electric Hoists
3-ton-acco-electric-hoist-vfdbr155-fpm-three-phase-2130060 3 Ton Acco Electric Hoist - VFD - 15/5 fpm, Three Phase, 2130060 Price: $3,318.00 Acco Electric Hoists
3-ton-cm-lodestar-electric-hoistbr55-fpm-single-or-three-phase 3 Ton CM Lodestar Electric Hoist - 5.5 fpm, Single or Three Phase Price: $3,402.69 CM Lodestar Electric Hoist
3-ton-jet-electric-hoist-66fpm-single-phase-ssc-series 3 Ton Jet Electric Hoist - 6.6fpm, Single Phase, SSC Series Regular Price: $3,427.68
Special Introductory Price: $2,787.17 Jet Electric Hoists




manual hoists

4 Ton Budgit Hand Chain Hoist - USA Series Price: $1,846.19 Budgit Hand Chain Hoists
4-ton-cm-hand-chain-hoist-cyclone 4 Ton CM Hand Chain Hoist - Cyclone Price: $2,020.49 CM Cyclone
4-ton-yale-hand-chain-hoist-lh2 4 Ton Yale Hand Chain Hoist - LH2 Price: $2,030.40 Yale Hand Chain Hoists

http://www.aceindustries.com/s-12-3-ton-hoist-4-ton-hoist.aspx

now where is that 4 ton hoist again???

We are not talking the cable line comealongs here....

 

[slipjointed]

You have a link for said 4ton hoist for $200...I would really LOVE to see this

Here's a 4 ton starting bid of $99:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Duff-Norton...385?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5646445759


Here's a 5 ton for $200 buy it now:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-ton-yale-...401?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb9b99e49





There's quite a few 3-5 ton chain hoists on ebay from $100 on up. You need to compare used to used, or new to new for a fair comparison to determine whether the price is "on crack" or not.

I can definitely say there's no way in hell I'd pay $2k for a rusty chain hoist, I've seen them in that size quite a bit for $500 or less locally, and often in much better condition.

 

[ibedayank]

If he was on crack you'd have to take two zeros off the price. $20 would probably get him another fix.

It's a nice unit BUT... even at """$200.00 you can get a 4 ton 110 volt electric winch"""" which is what I'd do. Mind you that baby might give you more control for the final fine tuning when lowering stuff into place.

ummm this was the quote for a NEW one that was $200....I would love to see it
And NOT HF quality

 

[Danglerb]

Here is one for $325.
http://beltlinepawn.com/product/6f24d00c-0bf1-4837-b6a3-f71031ba5c72.aspx

2 ton Wright for $90.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96154

Dunno if the seller is on crack, but suspect a buyer would have to be.

 

[ibedayank]

hell i just want to know where they sell $200.00 4 ton 110 volt electric hoist NOT a winch new thats not hf quality

have a big enough building here that I might be able to talk the boss into a trolley system if i could find one that cheap NEW


as far as the one in the link...wouldn't touch it for $20 it looks like it has seen some pretty good heat/fire....

 

[2oolhound]

ibedayank you want one of those too badly. If you re-read my post I did say winch. If you're looking for an electric chain hoist, yeah, it's a different animal.

I was relating it to my own personal situation, I needed something to lift my 500 lb bike up from the rafters so I bought a 12 volt 1 ton winch instead of a hand chain hoist with 1 or 2 part fall like the op's link. The winch works but the 12 volt is a pita so I picked up a 110 volt similar strength unit at an estate sale only to see a nice 4 ton 110 volt winch in a local flyer for about $200.00 when I got home.

For every day use in a shop an electric roller chain hoist would be the ultimate but yeah, pricey and usually 220 v.

What interests me is the Wright unit in the link says "high speed". Those old things take forever to raise when they are one or two part falls. I wonder why they call that one "High Speed" It's all relative, you pull the light chain lots to turn the big chain a little. The only way that unit can be a higher speed than a different 4 ton unit with equal loads is if you pull the light chain harder because it's got less mechanical advantage of a smaller ratio.

 

[countryroad82]

Think of it this way at a 2 grand price tag it keeps some idiot from buying it for pennies then hauling it off to the scrap yard.

 

[ibedayank]

a WINCH is not made for overhead lifting.... A HOIST is
winch is rated rolling load.... HOIST is rated for dead lift aka 100% off the ground


Use the right tool for the job using a WINCH for dead lifting is like using a jack without jackstands

 

[CHRIS LUCKYMAN]

^^^Stop feeding the troll.^^^

 

[ibedayank]

If he was on crack you'd have to take two zeros off the price. $20 would probably get him another fix.

It's a nice unit BUT... even at $200.00 you can get a 4 ton 110 volt electric winch which is what I'd do. Mind you that baby might give you more control for the final fine tuning when lowering stuff into place.

^^^Stop feeding the troll.^^^

if your gonna run your mouth at least do it with some style..

 

[bad_idea]

umm.... since this thread has fallen away from the original subject - could someone define troll? i have seen the term thrown around on the forum, but i am not sure what it means. thanks.

 

[filtered]

umm.... since this thread has fallen away from the original subject - could someone define troll? i have seen the term thrown around on the forum, but i am not sure what it means. thanks.

A jackass that has nothing better to do with their lives than post on forums for the sole purpose of ******* people off or starting an argument.

 

[Toolbag]

^^^Stop feeding the troll.^^^

I love it

 

[slipjointed]

could someone define troll?

Everyone has an inner troll, just most of us manage to keep it caged in.

Also, don't give it any water. Oh wait, that's um...

 

[mrholeshot]

It's worth at least 800 dollars to someone who needs one. One of my BIL's owns an Electric motor shop. Has has to move some huge 2 ton electric motors around in his shop on his full shop gantry crane. He has one of these but in 3 ton and it cost him over 1500 dollars used. He now has a nice electric unit but still has the old one up there as well. Thats an expensive and great hoist. I'm sure he is just weeding out the wannabes. I bet 5 crisp hundred dolalr bills would bring it home

 

[mrholeshot]

Everyone has an inner troll, just most of us manage to keep it caged in.

Also, don't give it any water. Oh wait, that's um...

Dont feed it after midnight
don't let it get water on it
Don't let it get direct sunlight

 

[treasureseeker]

umm.... since this thread has fallen away from the original subject - could someone define troll? i have seen the term thrown around on the forum, but i am not sure what it means. thanks.

The term defined by the eBay forum is someone who has no interest in topic discussed but makes a post that makes forum members fight each other while the troll sits back and enjoys the war.

Some of the topics on here that people fall prey to are dual 80’s COO, warrantying tools purchased used with the intent of trading them in for new and of course low price brands made in Asia but hold up well being compared to the big three.

 

[Danglerb]

umm.... since this thread has fallen away from the original subject - could someone define troll? i have seen the term thrown around on the forum, but i am not sure what it means. thanks.

Some have the misguided notion Troll refers to a mythical under bridge living trouble maker, but the real meaning is from fishing, where you drop a line in the water and slowly move through different areas to see what you catch.

A Troll drops into "group" and makes a post designed to attract the most replies, then sits back and watches or shares the results with other trolls in a weird competition of sorts.

 

[justanengineer]

Price is entirely about perspective. To you that hoist is seriously overpriced, to someone else it may not be.

To many on this board, spending $25 on a 1/2" SO ratchet is a steal. To me its thievary (I buy <$10). All depends on your perspective.

 

[Frank The Plumber]

You search the site looking for hot topics, drop an odd or off comment on the group in that discussion.

And then you wait to see how large the storm becomes, in a bar stool competition each line of response is worth a point, a person calling you a soft name is 2 points, a harsh name is 5 points and if you get them an infraction 10 points. If you get them banned from the forum you get 25 points. Cute game isn't it? It's played on every forum on the net, most players do so in the evening, some have this as a party game. I've heard of guys playing it like people play fantasy football. It's sick. Not the good sick either.

 

[ibedayank]

but the fact remains i STILL would like to know where I can get a 110 volt powered 4ton hoist new for $200
now if thats being a troll...well I am short and fat and REALLY ugly... but honestly look like like an ogre.

 

[bad_idea]

so if i said 'PVC AIR LINES' right now that would be a troll move?

 

[filtered]

so if i said 'PVC AIR LINES' right now that would be a troll move?

You got it.

As far as the trolls go, there is an ignore list on the forum. Personally if I see people posting troll type **** with nothing useable added to the thread they go on the ignore list. They'll get bored if everyone ignores them and move on to another forum.

 

[pj_rage]

What's funny and ironic is that there are several trolls here, but the guy that everyone is pointing the finger at is not one of them.

(Yes I realize I'm now adding to the trolling).

 

[Frank The Plumber]

so if i said 'PVC AIR LINES' right now that would be a troll move?

4 points

 

[CaseyJoes.]

Obviously there are very few (if any) people in the world who would be willing to pay 2k for that. I do think it is very cool though! Likely a nicely made/engineered peice. That being said though, it looks like something that I could buy at a farm auction for $35 or so.

 

[JSBriggs]

While I agree with Jab, the please delete thread was more fun.

-Jeff

 

[jabberwoki]

Way to go trolls!!!! spoil the fun.

 

[2oolhound]

a WINCH is not made for overhead lifting.... A HOIST is
winch is rated rolling load.... HOIST is rated for dead lift aka 100% off the ground


Use the right tool for the job using a WINCH for dead lifting is like using a jack without jackstands

I hate to keep this going but if you think a winch can't be used for overhead lifting you should take a look at any crane next time you pass a construction site. Most mobile and tower cranes use winches to lift loads with both their whip lines and main lines plus raise and lower their booms simontainiously too. All with winches. Same goes for stationary or mobile logging spars that lift loads to a sky line and then yard them to a landing. Again, all winches with interlocks so several winches operate in a coordinated fashion. Have you never seen a tow truck lift a motor? It's done with winches. Heck, my 54 Dodge Power Wagon you see in my avatar is a winch truck. Yes, it has a big honkin winch on the back and an "A" frame. I used it for log building. I've lifted many 2 ton logs with it and built many buildings using it to lift the logs into place. Don't let how a particular piece of equipment is rated regulate the kind of work you do with it (just don't exceed the safe working load). My winch does a great job lifting my bike up so I can get it on my high bike stand.

Check these lifting winches (up to 76,000 lb lift):

http://www.thern.com/products/power-winches/38-ton-capacity-winch

 

[ibedayank]

2oolhound....
compareing a geardrive winch that runs off a power takeoff to some POS 12 volt battery powered HUNK OF **** is like telling me a watermellon is the same as a apple... both are fruits

You wanna talk winch trucks.. yeah I can do that How about a class8 White
12 speed 500 CI gasser..... AIRBRAKES

autocar wrecker

B67 Mack wrecker

Bantam crane

 

[Vinko]

That hardly constitutes "on crack".

I never understood why so many on GJ get all bent out of shape when the asking price is not what THEY want.

I couldn't agree more. After several years of this forum, I find this observation just. I don't necessarily have the OP in mind, but certainly, there've been a few who've gotten real bent out of shape in the past over prices asked on CL or ebay. Ironically, however, some of these same guys really jack up prices for stuff they offer on the Classifieds.

 

[Vinko]

Some of the topics on here that people fall prey to are dual 80’s COO, warrantying tools purchased used with the intent of trading them in for new and of course low price brands made in Asia but hold up well being compared to the big three.

Maybe. Or maybe whatever the impetus, those topics have resulted in a lot of good info over the years. For me, the end result is what's important.

 

[bad_idea]

harbor freight ratchets are better than snap on. how many points is that?

 

[Matt018]

If he was truly on crack he would have just scrapped it and not waste any time....

 

[Frank The Plumber]

harbor freight ratchets are better than snap on. how many points is that?

Blah blah blah, yada yada, lengthy adjective filled rant, you are wrong snap on is the only tool any tool polisher ever wants.

2 points

 

[Danglerb]

harbor freight ratchets are better than snap on. how many points is that?

Thats like throwing a hook in the water with no bait. Nobody is foolish enough to respond to a post like that.

BTW could be right on the HF composite ratchet.