Sewer and water ran 200'

[conceptmachine]

Guys,
Sorry to post here but don't know where else to post.
What is a rough estimate of what it would cost to run line 200' with 1" copper and 4" pvc? Including straight line excavation.
Thanks in advance
Jim

 

[flat350]

Soil type and depth?

 

[conceptmachine]

Soil type and depth?

soil is loam and black dirt. 42"
thank you

 

[Mike007]

Guys,
Sorry to post here but don't know where else to post.
What is a rough estimate of what it would cost to run line 200' with 1" copper and 4" pvc? Including straight line excavation.
Thanks in advance
Jim

The cost of the copper alone won't be cheap. I bought a roll of 1" type K copper a few years ago, I want to say it cost almost $10 a foot.

 

[larry4406]

Short of hitting rock, our plumbers bill $17/ft for 4"sch40 PVC sewer and $7/ft for 1" black poly water line. Northern va/md.

 

[WVBrady]

You aren't planning on running them in the same trench, are you?

http://www.dem.ri.gov/programs/benviron/water/permits/wtf/pdfs/sewrwatr.pdf

 

[conceptmachine]

Thanks guys I appreciate the feedback.
no not same trench, unless the code allows it.
I'll check with the city

 

[conceptmachine]

So really i need to be 42" and then around 1/2" rise over 200' for the sewer.

 

[larry4406]

Here in northern VA and MD the sewer and water are run in the same trench. The trench is dug deep and a bench or shelf is dug on one side of the excavation Sewer is down at the bottom of the trench and the water line above it on the shelf.

 

[Rookie2]

Rise ? better check on that 1/2" for 200'. usually 1/8" to 1/4" per foot !

you'll need clean outs !

 

[conceptmachine]

It's a 1/4 inch min. So 3/8 comes out to right where we need to be. The hook up is 8'.

 

[Kevin54]

Why do you want to run 200' of Copper? The water lines are usually heavy walled poly lines that are black. You can get it at any plumbing supply house, and even the Farm stores like TSC carries it. You can get it in one continuous run, so you will have on two connections. One at the head, and one at the tail.

 

[cowboy73]

Around here, a lot of water lines underground are SCH 40 white PVC. They use 20' long pipes with a belled end and glue them together.

 

[AP514]

I used SCH 40 also. 20' sections but with Pressure Unions(PCV glued)...ran almost 200', 1-1/2 water line to my house .
Screwed up the first time and got drain unions (alot shorter so pipe did not insert as far) had to dig it all up and redo it.(Facepalm)

 

[conceptmachine]

Thanks guys, AP, I feel for you, but your not the first or last!
I found out I can run them in the same hole and I can use the pex

 

[Highbeam]

Pex is not the same as black poly that we're talking about. Different fittings and ratings. You want black 200 psi IPS polyethylene water pipe. It's cheap and tough as nails. Pex is great stuff for interior plumbing.

4" sewer is supposed to be at 2% minimum slope or 2' of fall per 100'.

 

[TheEquineFencer]

Thanks guys, AP, I feel for you, but your not the first or last!
I found out I can run them in the same hole and I can use the pex

You are correct, I didn't know you could use Pex as direct bury until a few months ago. I was talking to a plumbing instructor at a local Community College about it. I'd just make sure the Pex Pipe is large enough diameter for the length of the run for the flow you need. PVC is probably cheaper. If you use PVC, make sure you get good soil contact, if not it will settle and break later on. Sand works good around it, been there done that. We ran from a 1 inch tap at the road into a 2 inch, then dropped back down to 1 inch at the house, about a 1/8-1/4 mile run. I think it cost about $0.20 extra a foot over the 1 inch. The nice thing about the 2 inch, I can direct tap into the pipe without having to use a "T". I've done that twice so far, once for the shop and once for a hydrant.

 

[conceptmachine]

Thank you for the replies. I'll go with the better line and forget the pex. One other thing. The sewer is 4' deep and need a 2 % fall over 220 feet so that's over 4' right there. Will need it to be in the ground enough to keep from freezing. In this case, what is usually done, build up dirt around pipe, or us there a way to lower sewer hook up?

Initially I mentioned the sewer hook up was 8' deep, but it's actually 4'

 

[Rookie2]

I think you need to talk to an Engineer and/or the local sewage authority. Sounds like a pump is needed. They will help.