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dae06

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Do this look right? I don't see any flashing or caulk on these.

Top of Window:
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Bottom of window:
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LS6 Tommy

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I'm no carpenter, but I've seen a LOT of fenestration installs in my career and that just looks wrong to me...

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I'm no expert either, but that sure doesn't look right. I would think that the opening should be framed in steel J-channel at the very least. And maybe foam closure strips to close the ridge openings. And caulk!
 

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Unfortunately that is a common install. That style of window is coming with a lot of building packages. The idea is that the channel molded into the window takes the place of the J channel. I've installed them once on an erecting job and I would not recommend them. At first blush it seems like a good idea but they are difficult to make water proof.
 

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The windows on my pole building look a lot like that. The windows actually have a J-channel integrated, so far as a I know. Mine has been up for over a year now, and no leaks whatsoever.
 

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At the very least it should have drip edge above ( code requirement) and j mold around the sides to hide the cuts and provide a tight joint to caulk to. Every change of material and direction requires flashing
 

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Mine is the same. Im going to caulk around it.

When i purchased the windows I thought great, has J channel built in. After installing the metal I realize I shouldve bought windows without j trim and used the metal j trim.

The windows are made for vinyl siding.
 
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No way to tell if it's right without seeing what's under the metal.

Building methods have changed and now the important part is the weather resistive barrier. House wrap and sticky back rubber around the windows is what keeps the water out. The siding is now just 'cladding' that protects the wrap.


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No way to tell if it's right without seeing what's under the metal.

Building methods have changed and now the important part is the weather resistive barrier. House wrap and sticky back rubber around the windows is what keeps the water out. The siding is now just 'cladding' that protects the wrap.


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^^^ I agree. But there should have been drip cap on the top, that would have gone a long way to diverting water away from getting in.
 

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It seems like there should be a system of bent trim coil pieces (aluminum trim coil color matched) to be the flashing plus caulking at minimum around the gap. I thought at first the metal ribs should be cut lower and higher so the window flange can sit closer to flush, but that would put the edges of raw ferrous metal out in the weather. Even a drip cap would have this issue in a small way. The wall metal could be cut higher and a drip cap lapped up and under, but the raw-cut metal on the sidewall metal would still be exposed. Seems like touch-up paint of some sort should be used to mitigate rusting.
 
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dae06

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I'll ask the builder when I see him. I'm sure there is no weather barrier on it either.

I guess I'll do the best I can with caulking. :mad:

The description of the window: 48" W x 36" H Vinyl Sliding Window with Built-In Brickmould and J-Channel (Better)

Not sure what this means.
 
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The set up you have is an integrated moulding with J trim on the window its self. That is how they are installed regardless if its metal or vinyl. If you had traditional windows and had J trim installed around the window, it would look the same.
 
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dae06

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The set up you have is an integrated moulding with J trim on the window its self. That is how they are installed regardless if its metal or vinyl. If you had traditional windows and had J trim installed around the window, it would look the same.

So no caulk should be needed and this is how it is expected to look?

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Looks to me like the window was installed last . Should have been :
Install window
Install drip edge and j mold
Install siding
Caulk joints
 

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Looks to me like the window was installed last . Should have been :
Install window
Install drip edge and j mold
Install siding
Caulk joints

Nope, window was done first, if any flashing was done, it was done second, then the siding was installed.
 

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So no caulk should be needed and this is how it is expected to look?

Thanks

That is how its supposed to look. I never cared for it that way, but around me, thats how they install metal and vinyl siding. Wood or Hardi plank is done a different way.

I would still raise a concern with the builder. If you put caulk on it before talking to them, then you own it. If you alter it before talking to them, you own it. If you talk to them first, then any concern should be addressed by them.
 
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