Shell for a shop

[sfd524]

I finally pulled the trigger on building a barn. The 24x32 garage on our property just can't hold anymore stuff. So after a year of planning and tossing out ideas the time has come to put the shovel in the ground. I am going to be breaking ground on a 50x40x12 monitor style barn with a 20x40 second floor. For the time being I am only doing the shell. There will be three over head doors, 2- 10x10 and 1- 12x10. The second floor will have one 6' double door above the center OHD and 4 windows down each side. The second floor will be future wood shop for making cabinets. The ground floor will be mechanical shop and implement storage for the farm machinery. The reason I am not pouring the floor right away is simple. I want to install radiant heat in it and the budget does not support the added cost, so I will wait a couple years to get what I want.

The building permits are approved and in hand. Last year I put down fabric and 14" of course gravel (bank run) as a base. The local hauler is bringing 2"minus screened gravel this week for me to level the pad with. Then the fun begins! Every thing has been decided on, as far as color, door size, design and layout, location, etc. I Have gone back and forth several times as to how to do this and maximize the usable space. Started with 16' walls and a loft, then 12' walls with attic trusses, finally monitor style with 12' ground floor and 9' second floor. The 12' with attic trusses would allow clear span of the ground floor but no natural lighting/venting of second floor. The 16' with loft seemed to be wasting space as I won't ever have a lift in there. That and the loft would only have 7' ceilings. So, monitor style it is. A guy could go crazy thinking about all the different options/styles.

Well anyway, here is a picture of the plans for the front of the barn:

 

[D.J.]

Can we see your side elevation drawings?

 

[sfd524]

Why of course you can.

 

[sfd524]

I decided to go ahead and have the supplier add double bubble to the list. After talking with a few people it seems it not only helps prevent condensation "rain" inside but also makes a good reduction in the noise level when raining.

Question for everyone:

What do you all think of putting Tyvek on walls between purlins and metal siding?

 

[John in OH]

I decided to go ahead and have the supplier add double bubble to the list. After talking with a few people it seems it not only helps prevent condensation "rain" inside but also makes a good reduction in the noise level when raining.

Question for everyone:

What do you all think of putting Tyvek on walls between purlins and metal siding?

I really like the monitor style barns!! I gave very serious consideration to building a monitor style when I built my new shop, but, for various reasons, used an attic style truss.

Good decision on the "double bubble" radiant barrier under the steel roofing. I recently replaced the steel roofing on one of my storage barns and had this installed. Very happy with it as it reduces the condensation issues and brightens up the interior. Also, while not a major insulator, it reduces the radiation from the sun heating the steel roofing and keeps the interior cooler.

Are you installing the electric service at this time?

 

[mwbailey]

I'm "into" monitor barn workshops! Looks like you'll have fun -- and a great shop. Good luck.

 

[John in OH]

I'm "into" monitor barn workshops! Looks like you'll have fun -- and a great shop. Good luck.

Wow! Very nice monitor barn! Definitely like the open span construction. That was one of the reasons I passed on the monitor design, I didn't want the internal post supports, but you have solved that problem. How big are those LVL beams?? Did you have an architect or engineer size them?

 

[sfd524]

John, no electric this year. One of the reasons why we are doing this now is because the power company won't energize a meter without something to hook it up to. So, thus the barn. Then next year we will bring primary back 325' to a transformer then secondary 130' to barn with 320amp service that we can later feed the future house with as well.

Unfortunately we are going to have posts to deal with. Even with them I will have 20'x40' down the center and 15'x40' on either side of that. The upstairs will be 20'x40' for a woodshop.

Glad to hear the double bubble is worth putting in. I would rather do it now then wish I had later.


mwbailey,

That shop looks great, I thought about doing board and batten. Love the look, just don't want the maintenance down the road. This is going to be our semi-retirement property many years from now (we hope!)

 

[sfd524]

Spent some time grading seven loads of gravel. Supposed to get three more by end of day Tuesday. Those will be enough to touch up edges and bring left side up to grade. Thursday I will be drilling 24" holes and Friday pouring concrete footers, pending hole inspection.

 

[mwbailey]

Lee, My shop is my FULL retirement property!! I'm hoping I can get by with sealing the board and batten only a couple of times before I kick the bucket.

I like your idea of upstairs for woodshop. If I had more woodworking tools, I might have gone with that. Instead, I used half of the second floor for a loft "aparment" of sorts and left the other half open for future lift. The 20X40 open center should give lots of room and you have 15 feet on the other side of the posts; I have only 9 feet on each side, so I wanted to have a little more room to maneuver. Hence we installed the glumlams for half of the shop giving 24X38 without posts. The other half is open 20 feet wide, only.

John, I'll have to check the glulams (or laminated veneer lumber) for size. The "kit" came from Sand Creek Post and Beam. They did all the "figuring".

 

[sfd524]

Sorry it has been awhile. I have made a bit of progress on the barn/shop. All the Perma-Columns have been set, girts on, second floor framed, and a third of the trusses set. All this in six days of framing plus two for hole auguring and concrete footers.

Here is a couple links to time lapse videos:

 

[sfd524]

Ok, so I have tried several times to upload some pictures over the last few months of my progress without success, just says upload failed. So I have inserted a link to my flickr page that has the overview picture. If you then go to my photostream you will be able to see more of the progress.


Barn overview

I still need to install the second floor windows, 4 each side, and install the overhead doors, on order, before it will be weather tight. Then I can have the county do the final inspection. Once that is done I'll concentrate on the interior.

 

[sfd524]

Barn is done! will be calling for final inspection tomorrow morning.

 

[foush56]

Wow, I think your shop is perfect! I've been sketching out plans that are very close to yours. I would like to use the upstairs for a man cave / guest room. Downstairs for woodworking and general tinkering. Is there clearance for a lift on the side bays? If all goes well maybe I can start next summer. Thanks for posting!

 

[sfd524]

Wow, I think your shop is perfect! I've been sketching out plans that are very close to yours. I would like to use the upstairs for a man cave / guest room. Downstairs for woodworking and general tinkering. Is there clearance for a lift on the side bays? If all goes well maybe I can start next summer. Thanks for posting!

I will have 12' floor to ceiling, not sure how much height is needed for a lift. I would love to have one, just can't justify the $$$$ in my head!

 

[Bib Overalls]

Good looking shop! I like red barns.

 

[coljar]

Very nice build. I also used the Perma-Columns in my build and have been very satisfied with the results.

 

[HAY YOU]

nice looking job.

 

[spotco2]

Looks fantastic! Love old (or new) red barns.

 

[sfd524]

Thank you guys.

I think the left bay is going to be the "work" area. I did some research on lifts and am leaning towards a 9000lb Atlas 2 post.