Sherwin Williams Tile Clad - Looking for Input

[KGA109]

Like anyone else that is covering their garage floor with an epoxy, I've done a lot of research. Concrete Coatings, Inc. led me to my local distributor of their (expensive) product and because of that, this local business directed me toward Sherwin Williams Tile Clad (Tile Clad base / Rexthane top-coat). He uses it himself and says he sells quite a bit of it to other local installers. And btw, it is every bit as expensive as anyone else I've researched.

I've tried to do as much research as i can about the product, but I am not finding much. I have found a couple businesses that (very proudly) use the Tile Clad exclusively, and overall, what little feedback I've found has been positive.

Looking for input from the pro's who know.

What I'm seeing is that a lot of the epoxy manufacturers are using poly top-coats for example (polyurea or polyaspartic) which seem like much newer technology, whereas SW Tile Clad seems more old-school. Not sure whether that is good or bad.

Who has used it, who has experience with it, and how was it?

Thank you very much.

 

[shaun oriold1]

The info sheets dont look special. Looks like a lot of other thin mil coatings, meant for easy install for a painter to make extra money. You're better off going to buy something from Legacy, then at least they will hold your hand throughout the process.

Whats the prices on it?

I'm anti-Epoxy top coats. I personally hate the fading associated with it which will come over time. As well being in canada, the Polyaspartic gives a longer working season - among other reasons

Poke around with the search functions, all your questions have been discussed.

 

[KGA109]

The info sheets dont look special. Looks like a lot of other thin mil coatings, meant for easy install for a painter to make extra money. You're better off going to buy something from Legacy, then at least they will hold your hand throughout the process.

Whats the prices on it?

I'm anti-Epoxy top coats. I personally hate the fading associated with it which will come over time. As well being in canada, the Polyaspartic gives a longer working season - among other reasons

Poke around with the search functions, all your questions have been discussed.

Price is about $950 to cover 800 sq.ft. $1100 if I want 4 gallons of Rexthane for the top coat (to make *sure* I can get two coats down).

And this only comes with 50lbs of flake (I am doing a full broadcast, and I'm not convinced this is enough).

I have dug around and searched - I was specifically looking for Tile-Clad-related topics, but few were found.

I have a gut feeling to NOT go with the SW Tile-Clad, but I have this job and about 4-5 others (friends) to do, so I'd like to work with someone in the Western region so I don't have to wait a week to get materials (VS. going with an east coast supplier). I have talked to Scotty at Legacy - nice guy and was very helpful, but ideally I was hoping to find a closer source (time zones are a PIA when they are so far apart).

 

[miketyler]

Well, not TileClad but I went with the Sherwin Williams product called ArmorSeal 1000HS. Have used it on three garage floors including my current and has held up very well. Very slick and glossy finish and I would use it again in a heartbeat.

 

[KGA109]

Well, not TileClad but I went with the Sherwin Williams product called ArmorSeal 1000HS. Have used it on three garage floors including my current and has held up very well. Very slick and glossy finish and I would use it again in a heartbeat.

Yeah that is the step-up from the TileClad. ArmorSeal 1000 is their 100%-solids epoxy. My local supplier is trying to steer me away from that because 'its harder to work with". It's also more expensive.

I would assume a huge company like SW would have all the resources they could possibly want in order to make a great, top of the line product, but as I said above, I feel like the TileClad is out-dated.

 

[shaun oriold1]

Price is about $950 to cover 800 sq.ft. $1100 if I want 4 gallons of Rexthane for the top coat (to make *sure* I can get two coats down).

And this only comes with 50lbs of flake (I am doing a full broadcast, and I'm not convinced this is enough).

I have dug around and searched - I was specifically looking for Tile-Clad-related topics, but few were found.

I have a gut feeling to NOT go with the SW Tile-Clad, but I have this job and about 4-5 others (friends) to do, so I'd like to work with someone in the Western region so I don't have to wait a week to get materials (VS. going with an east coast supplier). I have talked to Scotty at Legacy - nice guy and was very helpful, but ideally I was hoping to find a closer source (time zones are a PIA when they are so far apart).

So first... you're going to need a lot more flake for that size floor. Torginol has a rough guide on their site which shows the coverage rate. Depending on the flake size you're going to need 150-200 lbs of flake. I always err on the extra side, and grab another box. ITs doesnt go bad.. You can always re-use the flake you re-claim, plus extra for another floor - ( storage room in basement, crawlspace, friends garages if the colour is the same)

Also keep in mind the top coat is going to be really really really thin if you're planning on getting two coats out of 4 gallons!. The flake will absorb a lot. I'm getting 135 Sq feet a gallon for the first coat. 200ish for a second coat - usually not necessary though. Again, You want to have more on hand than you need. Its not like you can run out in the middle of a floor and grab more....

As far as store bought epoxy's go, its not bad. If they stock it locally, thats a huge plus. Grind the floor, primer coat, base coat, flake, and single layer top coat. You'll be fine! It will be a good floor, with years of abuse. SW does make a good product. Their vapor migration primer is a great product.

 

[KGA109]

So first... you're going to need a lot more flake for that size floor. Torginol has a rough guide on their site which shows the coverage rate. Depending on the flake size you're going to need 150-200 lbs of flake. I always err on the extra side, and grab another box. ITs doesnt go bad.. You can always re-use the flake you re-claim, plus extra for another floor - ( storage room in basement, crawlspace, friends garages if the colour is the same)

Also keep in mind the top coat is going to be really really really thin if you're planning on getting two coats out of 4 gallons!. The flake will absorb a lot. I'm getting 135 Sq feet a gallon for the first coat. 200ish for a second coat - usually not necessary though. Again, You want to have more on hand than you need. Its not like you can run out in the middle of a floor and grab more....

As far as store bought epoxy's go, its not bad. If they stock it locally, thats a huge plus. Grind the floor, primer coat, base coat, flake, and single layer top coat. You'll be fine! It will be a good floor, with years of abuse. SW does make a good product. Their vapor migration primer is a great product.

That's what I thought regarding 50lbs of flake. I did not think that was enough, but he said "it can be done". Their flake is $220 per 50lbs, so the price diff is huge.

I like the option to use poly top coats as I do have other jobs coming up, and the temps are starting to drop as you eluded to with your area. SW does not have that flexibility, but I've found some manufacturers in CA that seem to have a great program with a large variety of staple options (Versatile Building Products, for example).

Thanks again. And btw, what product do you use (primarily)?

 

[Skidddmark]

Tile-Clad is a good product. I have used it several times. Its not 100% solids and it will get you ripped if you don't ventilate well and/or use a respirator. Its an excellent base coat for a flake floor. 50lbs sounds a little shy for a dry broadcast or near dry broadcast of flakes. It may go on a little thin because of the solvents that are in it but use a thicker roller cover like about 1/2", don't dry roll it, and keep up with it on the flakes and it should be fine.