kool55
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My Dad in Florida has a pistol that i want. Can you send it thru the mail, or do you have to do something special?
Shipping a Pistol
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mangomadness
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if i remember right you have to have it sent to a gun shop and you could pick it up there. You might ask one of your local gun shops and find out .
Jawn
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He would have to send it to a dealer in your state via common carrier (UPS/Fedex), then the dealer would transfer it to you (probably for a fee).
Or, he could find a dealer in his state to send it US Mail to a dealer in your state. Individuals cannot "mail" a pistol. US Mail plus troubling a dealer to mail it may actually be cheaper than UPS/Fedex. Worth looking into.
Or, he could find a dealer in his state to send it US Mail to a dealer in your state. Individuals cannot "mail" a pistol. US Mail plus troubling a dealer to mail it may actually be cheaper than UPS/Fedex. Worth looking into.
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Steevo
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FFL requires it be sent from dealer to dealer.
pikeman01
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I am not positive, but if you disassemble it, you can ship in multiple packages as parts,which is legal.
I don't know about shipping it as parts, but it's super simple to take apart. you can break it down in about 45 seconds.
William....
GirlnAgarage
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State to state the handgun must go through an FFL. You dad needs to go to an FFL and ask if he'll cert and ship to another FFL. Cost is usually anywhere from $20-75. It must go overnight or next day (whichever is the most expedited method). You need to check with you local FFL and ask him to receive. There is often no charge to receive. Your dads FL will not ship until he has the info provide he is shipping to your FFL. That is a simple fax from your/your FFL to his.
All the unserialized parts may. But the serialized parts cannot. The serialized parts are the ATF controlled piece.
All the unserialized parts may. But the serialized parts cannot. The serialized parts are the ATF controlled piece.
Jawn
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That's fine 'til you get to the receiver. That's still considered a "pistol", even though it's just the receiver.
edit... girl in a garage beat me to it.
seagravedriver
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Check with a reputable gun store. If it is transfer of ownership, it has to be through one FFL to another. That is what I have done with "gunbroker.com. As it is just a gift, maybe, MAYBE not. But knowing the government and firearms, it probably does. My friends pawnshop charges $25.00 bucks. A gun store near by my home costs 60 bucks. Do some shopping. DO NOT LOSE THAT PISTOL. If in doubt, do it right, or overkill or what ever. I have bought AR15 uppers and they have arrived FedEx. Barrels, grips etc, no problem. When I have the lower receiver to buy, I had to buy it at a gun shop, complete with paperwork. THAT part, as someone else said, is the firearm.
trboxman
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This is the correct and complete answer.
Since it is a pistol:
- It needs to be over-nighted
- needs to be sent to an FFL in your state
Other than that, your father should be able to package to ship it himself through Fedex or UPS (USPS will not ship guns for you unless you have an FFL).
Your father doesn't NEED to have an FFL ship it for him, unless the receiving FFL requires it.
- It needs to be over-nighted
- needs to be sent to an FFL in your state
Other than that, your father should be able to package to ship it himself through Fedex or UPS (USPS will not ship guns for you unless you have an FFL).
Your father doesn't NEED to have an FFL ship it for him, unless the receiving FFL requires it.
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Shadowdog500
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+1.
The dealer that is shipping it may require a copy of the FFL for the dealer that he is sending it to just to cover his but.
Chris
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Are you sure it needs to go directly to an ffl? Never heard this. Is this only for a pistol?
metalmagpie
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For sure don't ship it using USPS. Just stick it in a box and ship it FedEx. It will get there..
GeorgiaHybrid
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Drive to Florida from Virginia to visit dear old dad. Get pistol, put in trunk and drive home. Neither Florida or Virginia have gun "registration" schemes as they are free states (not communist) and the states in between are also free states.
If desired, when driving thru Georgia, feel free to load your pistol and lay it on the dash. Your car is the same as your home here and you can keep a loaded firearm in the car as long as you are legal to own it.
If desired, when driving thru Georgia, feel free to load your pistol and lay it on the dash. Your car is the same as your home here and you can keep a loaded firearm in the car as long as you are legal to own it.
Yes. As its been said, to and from, if its being shipped. Each usually charges approx. 50$
Shadowdog500
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Just ship it through an FFL. If you lose one of the numbered parts the Luger will go down in value. The full number is on the Barrel, Receiver, and frame so you will need to ship those parts through an FFL anyway.
I have a P08 and one interesting thing is that registrations are hard to track on some of them. The Treaty of Versailles limited the number of guns the germans could produce so the numbering sequences on lugers were repeated on a monthly basis to artificially make the productions numbers look low while the germans were gearing up for WWII. Ive read that over 400 Lugers can have the same exact serial number.
Join the lugerforum.com to learn more about these guns.
Here is a link to one of my Luger videos.
Chris
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SCscoutguy
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With it being 50 years or older would it eligible for curio and relic status? I am not quite sure what the laws are on shipping a curio and relic pistol but I know that you can ship a rifle via the USPS from one license holder to the other.
http://theboxotruth.com/docs/cr.htm
http://theboxotruth.com/docs/cr.htm
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GirlnAgarage
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Once and for all: http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]
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+++1
pro machine Engineering
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has to be shipped dealer to dealer and will hav eto be shipped overnight air if shipping through UPS unless they have changed there policy back to where guns can be shipped ground
Ray-CA
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How far is it? If it's a drivable distance, I'd just jump into the car and head down. Besides, gives you another chance to see your Dad. That's something I've been missing since 2001.
Ray
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GirlnAgarage
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A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]
Now read common carrier requirements:
http://pe.usps.gov/text/pub52/pub52c4_009.htm
http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resources/ship/packaging/guidelines/firearms.html
http://www.dhl.co.uk/en/express/shipping/shipping_advice/prohibited_commodities.html
http://www.fedex.com/us/national/rulestariff/prohibited_articles.html
Wow. So much misinformation on this thread. All he has to do is ship it (FedEx or UPS) to himself, at your address. Done. The ATF is wrong in saying you need to notify the carrier you are shipping a gun. It is an internal policy with FedEx and UPS, but not a federal law.
Q: May a nonlicensee ship firearms interstate for his or her use in hunting or other lawful activity?
Yes. A person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner. Persons other than the owner should not open the package and take possession of the firearm.
Q: May a nonlicensee ship firearms interstate for his or her use in hunting or other lawful activity?
Yes. A person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner. Persons other than the owner should not open the package and take possession of the firearm.
This is from your own LINK Firearms
Carrier will transport and deliver firearms as defined by the United States Gun Control Act of 1968, between areas served in the U.S., but only between:
Licensed importers; licensed manufacturers; licensed dealers; licensed collectors; law enforcement agencies of the U.S. or any department or agency thereof; and law enforcement agencies of any state or any department, agency or political subdivisions thereof; or
Where not prohibited by local, state and federal law, from individuals to licensed importers, licensed manufacturers or licensed dealers (and return of same
GirlnAgarage
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Shipped from individuals to licensed importers, dealers or manf (they are all FFL holders). When a firearm is sent into the manf or a custom shop the FFL can send the firearm directly back to the individual. Check with the local FFL who will be receiving. Some FFLs will receive from individuals but some will only receive from other FFLs.
I have FFL paperwork here in my shop (I am a custom shop). With the FFL I can send and receive directly to customers.
What HoseB posted there is legal. You still have to comply with the carriers requirements. The risk of not complying is if something goes wrong in the shipment, you'll have no recourse to get the firearm found/back.
Edit: I don't like all these PITA firearms laws. As a gun owner they raise costs and make doing any gun business a real hassle. Yes I'm anti-gun control. Yes I have shipped and received handguns and long guns interstate. I'm not a lawyer and I'm not responsible for someone else's legal decisions on this matter. Yall do what you want to do. I keep this stuff above the board. Murphy's Law says the time I don't, something goes wrong. I'm not interested in losing my good standing or going through the rigamarole of trying to clear my name in the event of something going wrong. I have too much to lose.
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machine_punk
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+1 on FFL to FFL.
I purchased a gun from an out-of-state friend of mine (licensed gun dealer) and he had to send it to my local gun dealer (who may have to run a check on you). There seemed to be a hang-up with some piece of paper, which absolutely had to be with the gun, before he would release it.
I purchased a gun from an out-of-state friend of mine (licensed gun dealer) and he had to send it to my local gun dealer (who may have to run a check on you). There seemed to be a hang-up with some piece of paper, which absolutely had to be with the gun, before he would release it.
This is one of them times that good ole dad was right= You can only tell someone so many times before it just like beating a dead horse. Read the ATF site then call fed ex and its done. But remember just like this site just because someone says it the truth it doesnt make it the truth!: May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]
This is word for word from the A T F!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]
This is word for word from the A T F!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And it's also not true. If you do further research, you'll find a notice from the ATF indicating such. It's UPS/FedEx policy, not Federal Law.
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MN4x4
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This is the best answer by far.
1. You get to see dad.
2. No background check required for the 'transfer'
3. That 'anonymous' old pistol stays out of the government's databases, and cannot be traced to you. NEVER underestimate this opsec advantage.
'nuff said.
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]
This is correct. Also the pistol would qualify as a C&R (curio and relic) and so could be sent to a C&R license holder instead of a full FFL.
ibedayank
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private seller to private buyer.... ship fedex "" machine parts""
just put other metal in the box
or drive down and get it
just put other metal in the box
or drive down and get it
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