Shop disassembly and reassembly?

[Ralphxj]

So my neighbor is planning on putting up a larger shop, and was planning on bulldozing his 30x40 shop. I asked about taking the siding off to use on mine (24x26) and he said I could have the whole thing if I wanted it. He actually disassembled this building and moved to its current spot 25 years ago. My question is, how big of job will this be to take the shop apart? It has sheeting inside so I can't see all the exact details of how its all put together. I have access to all his equipment to help if I need it (Backhoe, Large Track Hoe, Skid Steer, ext.). I know I will need to strip the roof and then pull the sheeting, and the rest should just come apart like it was put together, but how big of a job will this really be? The plan is to put this barn up directly across the street as an addition on the end of my 24x36 to make a long 24/30x70ish building. Unfortuently there is no way to move it, as his driveway isn't wide enough (lighted stone pillars line the driveway).

Am I out of mind? Should I just save what I can (siding, doors, rafters) and trash the rest? Or get every single piece I can?

 

[carnutdallas]

I say it is a big job, but not a terribly hard job. I would hire a few helpers and do it. Looks like a nice building and you have the “tools” and it sounds like free!


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[SickSpeedMonte]

I would get a cat claw and pull the sheathing on one side or the other and try to move sections of wall. I guess you'll have to disassemble the roof and move trusses and then re-roof it. Have you asked your neighbor how he moved it?

 

[wasfuzz]

I would take every thing you can inventory and separate accordingly then build using what you have. I would not try to rebuild what he had, just make it fit with your current. As long as you do not count your time - then it's free!

 

[LXCam]

I'd take to whole thing without issue but I'd rent a petibone for doing it. Is the roof framed or truss? That'll be your biggest battle. But the walls are cake walk. Brace all the walls diagonally then brace to the slab independent of each other. Remove the trim boards on the outside corners. Build yourself a couple 8ft wide axles with larger rubber tires, maybe get you hands on a couple mobile home axles. Weld one upright solid off center then build another that bolts on. Then take a saw zall and cut all the nails at the corners. Lift one end and slide one of the carries under it a third of the way in, swap ends and do the same with the other. You'll need four more lengths of angle to bolt the axles together flat (wheel to wheel) then a diagonal X brace on the upright. Then when them over and set in place. The end walls can be laid down and then uprighted after you end the long walls in place using a spreader bar and strapping.

Personally I'd gladly throw a couple grand at the misc items you need and the labor without any thought since you're just moving it across the street. But you might be in for a whole new roof depending on how it's framed (sheeting wise).

 

[Leaflessshadetree]

You are basically trading labor for materials. I'm not sure how useful that equipment will be other than site prep. Which is the same if you use new materials.
In addition to disassembly labor you will have to keep the material organized (and undamaged). Then a little more labor in selecting pieces for your use. You may have to accommodate some of the existing cuts/holes in the materials.

 

[86turbodsl]

We have a local guy that moved a pole barn about that size. He cribbed the whole thing at the bottom and from side to side in several places, then some diagonals, cut the bottoms of the posts off, lifted the whole thing onto a big dolly and then pulled it to the new location, then cribbed new poles under the old ones and set it down. Big job, but it didn't take very long.

 

[Ralphxj]

I figured pulling the sheeting would be the most time consuming and also the pieces easiest to damage. I was planning on having him lift the trusses off with the trackhoe and lay them directly onto a trailer. I plan on building it taller at my place, so I planned on cutting the poles off at the ground and then setting new poles similar to how PermaColumns are setup. A friend did the same thing where a barn was removed and he was left with the poles sticking out of the ground, he just married new poles on top and added supports on the sides.

 

[jetlag]

Remove the obstacles, lift the building intact and move it, then replace the obstacles. You probably only need to pull the pillar(s) from one side of the driveway, and if they were built in place, they can be rebuilt in place.

 

[Ralphxj]

Remove the obstacles, lift the building intact and move it, then replace the obstacles. You probably only need to pull the pillar(s) from one side of the driveway, and if they were built in place, they can be rebuilt in place.

To move it I would have to tear out all his stone pillars (12 of them), all the electric to each on and tear up his yard. Plus I would need to remove at least 8 trees to get it into my back yard and 5 in his yard next to the driveway. Moving it is not an option unless a free helicopter move is possible. His driveway is over 530ft long. Plus the cost of the move would make it not possible, I'm trying to do his on little to no cost other then what's needed to rebuild in the future.

 

[tinysparky]

First question should be .... Will I have to pull a permit? If so will the jursidiction approve of it as built or do you need an engineer to approve the used materials? Using recycled material isn't covered under the ibc code.

So. I just finished my pole barn. Prior guy tore it down. He used a boom forklift. Yours is much smaller. But because of the lap siding...more of a pain.

you are probably looking at 120 studs.... @16"...(@4.80 = 576...10'... plus trusses. Not sure what else you can reuse. Taking downs siding...maybe just be prepared to buy lots of caulk to repair. I assume you would not use the sheething or roof.

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[joe_padavano]

I assume this is a red iron frame building? Frankly, I'd just reuse the frame. Getting the siding panels re-aligned properly is nearly impossible, or at the very least extremely time consuming. New metal siding isn't that expensive.

 

[Ralphxj]

I assume this is a red iron frame building? Frankly, I'd just reuse the frame. Getting the siding panels re-aligned properly is nearly impossible, or at the very least extremely time consuming. New metal siding isn't that expensive.

Pole barn, all wood with vinyl siding.

 

[Ralphxj]

First question should be .... Will I have to pull a permit? If so will the jursidiction approve of it as built or do you need an engineer to approve the used materials? Using recycled material isn't covered under the ibc code.

So. I just finished my pole barn. Prior guy tore it down. He used a boom forklift. Yours is much smaller. But because of the lap siding...more of a pain.

you are probably looking at 120 studs.... @16"...(@4.80 = 576...10'... plus trusses. Not sure what else you can reuse. Taking downs siding...maybe just be prepared to buy lots of caulk to repair. I assume you would not use the sheething or roof.

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No permits needed. It's more then 100ft off the road so they aren't needed. As long as I'm off the property line the required distance and I dont have more then 5 (I think, or maybe 6) buildings, I'm good!

 

[log man]

Invite 300 Amish friends over?

Testament to what manpower can do...

 

[tinysparky]

Time vs money then. What is harder to come buy? Do you want his height?

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[Ralphxj]

Time vs money then. What is harder to come buy? Do you want his height?

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I have more time then money! Hoping to go taller on the rebuild so I have room for a lift, but I'll figure out the reinstall plan once I know what I have. The plan is to use half of this as an automotive area and half as an open front storage for firewood, trailer, mower, log splitter, etc.,

 

[matt_i]

Ime plywood is what doesn't come apart very well. You say its already been disassembled & reassembled one time....

Worse if ring shanked nails were used or the "hot glue" coated framing nails shot from a pneumatic tool, because you will have to dig out the heads and hammering from the backside is prone to put holes in thinner (1/2" thick) ply.

Vinyl siding is good, not hard to remove, pull the nails and stack it up.

Roof trusses and other framing, garage and man doors, 2x girts would be my main go-gets.

Then you basically need new posts and a pile of plywood or osb and std roofing materials.

 

[My Old Tools]

Pole barn and vinyl siding....Save the roof trusses and scrap the rest. Vinyl siding isn't worth the effort and will break easily. The poles are already starting to decay at 25 years.

 

[6768rogues]

My uncle moved one about twice that size. He disassembled it and numbered every piece, then put it back together piece by piece.

 

[LXCam]

Pole barn, all wood with vinyl siding.

Well **** scratch anything I suggested. Didn't know it was a pole barn. Good luck re-using that siding.

 

[Ralphxj]

Is the siding going to be that bad? I guess if it's not easy to remove in 1 piece, it will get torn off quicker!

 

[Kevin54]

If you really don't have a clue how to tackle a project like that, you had best get some buddies that do know and can help out, or just give up on the pipe dream. I hate to say that, but the guy has a timeline in his mind to get things done. Just sayin' brother.

 

[Ralphxj]

If you really don't have a clue how to tackle a project like that, you had best get some buddies that do know and can help out, or just give up on the pipe dream. I hate to say that, but the guy has a timeline in his mind to get things done. Just sayin' brother.

I have a clue, just looking for any suggestions. Ive always done new construction and thought some here might have suggestions. He has no timeline, he is building his new shop (his 2nd 120x100) and using this one to store supplies until his big one is done, then I can start taking this one down. He has been talking about this project for 3 years now, his builder got cancer and he has been waiting for him to get healthy. No timeline at all on this project.

 

[oldmxracer]

Ralphxj, from Your first post " My question is, how big of job will this be to take the shop apart?"

It will be a damn big job ! Just in case You missed it will be a damn big job !


Doable project, Yes, but it is going to take some help !



If You have done New construction take it apart backwards of building it new