Shop Radio

[MaddoxZac]

Hello, I've posted a few times and really haven't had much help. Maybe this time will work. Right now where i work is a 1800 sq foot shop and we don't have any radio. Im looking for a radio that i can use kind of like what people use in the house with a a/v receiver. Then when i get my own shop i would like to be able to add enough speaker to fill 6000 sq feet. Both of my parents have technics receivers and cerwin vega speakers but I'm wanting something big that is loud and has bass. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I was looking at something like this. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ILCS164/?tag=atomicindus08-20
i would also like to be able to have a setup in the house as well with the same receiver.

 

[Ray916MN]

How big is your budget? To get real bass response and volume in an 1800 sq. ft. shop is going to be fairly expensive. To get it in a 6000 sq. ft., your wallet better be thick.

 

[MaddoxZac]

Not thousands and thousands but i figured it would cost a little bit. i would like to stay around 500 for the 1800 and im not sure on the 6000

 

[Stuey]

That's just a receiver.

Want more bass? Add a sub. (Mine is from http://www.svsound.com/ and I love it!)

You can start with 2 speakers for stereo setup, then add more.

Have lots of space? Double up on subs and add more speakers.

 

[MaddoxZac]

Could I use something like two of these with just a simple version of the receiver I posted earlier? Just for time being? http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1016215-REG/gemini_gt_1004_10_trapezoid_loudspeaker.html


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[Ray916MN]

That's just a receiver.

Want more bass? Add a sub. (Mine is from http://www.svsound.com/ and I love it!)

You can start with 2 speakers for stereo setup, then add more.

Have lots of space? Double up on subs and add more speakers.

The issue is going to be the price for the subs. SVS subs are great subs, but they start at $500/sub. When you consider that a single sub is going to only be good for at best something like a 6400 cubic foot room (40x20x8') and an 1800 sq. ft. garage with a 12' ceiling is 21600 cubic feet, you're going to need at least three $500 subs. A 6000 sq ft. workshop with a 12' ceiling and you need eleven subs. To get bass response in a large space, you need to move allot of air and moving allot of air costs allot of money. Typically for spaces this large, the most economic solution is going to professional PA equipment, which is less expensive per volume achieved, than home audio equipment, but definitely not inexpensive, especially if you want strong bass.

Loud volume (ie. club volume) with strong bass in an 1800 sq. ft. garage, I'd expect to cost at least $2K.

 

[MaddoxZac]

The issue is going to be the price for the subs. SVS subs are great subs, but they start at $500/sub. When you consider that a single sub is going to only be good for at best something like a 6400 cubic foot room (40x20x8') and an 1800 sq. ft. garage with a 12' ceiling is 21600 cubic feet, you're going to need at least three $500 subs. A 6000 sq ft. workshop with a 12' ceiling and you need eleven subs. To get bass response in a large space, you need to move allot of air and moving allot of air costs allot of money. Typically for spaces this large, the most economic solution is going to professional PA equipment, which is less expensive per volume achieved, than home audio equipment, but definitely not inexpensive, especially if you want strong bass.



Loud volume (ie. club volume) with strong bass in an 1800 sq. ft. garage, I'd expect to cost at least $2K.

Could I get buy with the speakers I posted earlier in the 1800? Just something to hear music and be able to tell there is bass in the songs? That's really all I need in this shop. I was lookin at seismic audio out of Memphis tn for the 6000 shop! They seem to be fairly priced and I live an hour from there!


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[Ray916MN]

Could I get buy with the speakers I posted earlier in the 1800? Just something to hear music and be able to tell there is bass in the songs? That's really all I need in this shop. I was lookin at seismic audio out of Memphis tn for the 6000 shop! They seem to be fairly priced and I live an hour from there!


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You can get by with anything. Rather than buy the speakers you linked to, I'd look at used speaker on CL. You can get some really nice speakers for under $200 a pair on CL. You can get stuff that legitimately sold for over $1K and was really really good quality, especially if you don't mind large.

Allot of speaker alternatives were discussed in this thread http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=227074&highlight=speakers

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

Have you talked to the others in the shop? Personally I really, really dislike loud music where I work. I like to converse and be able to understand the other person without raising my voice. Never mind hearing loss issues.

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[redsand187]

There was another thread about stereo's in people shops just the other day.

I shared a little bit about what I've got, it might be right up your alley.

I'm using 2 15" two way powered PA speakers from Behringer, (cheap and dirty, not any audiophile stuff, but come-on they get filled with all sorts of crazy dust) they were like $250-$350 a piece from what I remember. They are hooked to an AppleTV. The AppleTV allows me to wirelessly stream audio from any of my computers, ipads, or phones directly to the speakers. Which is awesome. There is also iTunes functions built right in that will allow pandora, itunes radio and other services. It's extremely convenient.

My shop is 30x50x20. I've got a 15x50ft workspace loft. Speakers are on the wall opposite of the loft 10ft in the air 34ft apart. Everywhere in the shop gets good coverage, upstairs or down. I think I might have paid $50 for the wall brackets, an AppleTV is like $60-$70 now. So getting something like this is easily between $500-$1000, purchased brand new. Then when you move to a bigger place, add a couple more speakers and if you really are craving bass response, a powered PA subwoofer could do the job.

Using the powered speakers is nice, because it's a pay as you go solution. You don't have to buy a larger receiver for future use, which saves you money up front, and makes sure you always have enough power for your speakers.

 

[Jlbc212]

A quality pair of noise cancelling head phones - listen as loud as you want with all the bass you want without spending much money. You can listen to rap while the person next to you is listening to Mozart.

 

[frenchy dehoux]

Here is a picture of the speakers I installed this weekend in my 1,000 square feet garage.

Frenchy

 

[MaddoxZac]

I was looking at the seismic audio dual 15 pa speakers with a Yamaha receiver.


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[jvitez]

http://www.usaudiomart.com/

Keep searching and you'll find what you want.

If your budget is a bit more:

www.audiogon.com

 

[Catadj78]

Go with car audio equipment then. Build your own sub boxes, use a crossover to split the RCA's and run multiple amps for the subs and a couple for the mids/highs. You can easily find used 12-15" subs for less than 50 a set same as the amps.

 

[Stuey]

The issue is going to be the price for the subs. SVS subs are great subs, but they start at $500/sub. When you consider that a single sub is going to only be good for at best something like a 6400 cubic foot room (40x20x8') and an 1800 sq. ft. garage with a 12' ceiling is 21600 cubic feet, you're going to need at least three $500 subs. A 6000 sq ft. workshop with a 12' ceiling and you need eleven subs. To get bass response in a large space, you need to move allot of air and moving allot of air costs allot of money. Typically for spaces this large, the most economic solution is going to professional PA equipment, which is less expensive per volume achieved, than home audio equipment, but definitely not inexpensive, especially if you want strong bass.

Loud volume (ie. club volume) with strong bass in an 1800 sq. ft. garage, I'd expect to cost at least $2K.

Good point. I didn't even think of doing the math.

Thing is, with PA equipment, it's going to be hard to get anywhere near the speakers without volume discomfort.