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benjacobs

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I'd say an Akita is a pretty good choice. I've heard they can take on mountain lions and bears because their necks are so strong. However, on the techie side of security, things like motion detectors, glass break detectors, and IP cameras would be pretty nice to have. I'm sure some folks in this forum already use them. Also, you can put burglar alarm warning stickers on your garage windows/doors as a mental deterrent. From what I've read, most (not all) burglars prey on the easiest targets, and even if you're bluffing with stickers, they don't want to take the chance.
 

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The thing is to keep people out in the first place - make sure your doors are solid and put good locks on them. Reinforce the door jamb so they can't kick open the door. If you have windows, put up security bars or plywood. You can lock overhead doors by putting a padlock through a hole drilled in one of the rails. Use motion sensors on outside lights, and make sure there aren't places where burglars can hide in the shadows or behind bushes.

Don't advertise - be careful who you tell about all the cool cars and tools and things you have in your garage. When you're home, don't leave the garage door open so people passing by can see what you have.

A security system for a garage doesn't have to be that elaborate. use magnetic switches on the doors and any windows. Include a heat detector (not a smoke detector) in case of fire. Motion sensors inside the garage may or may not be a good idea; if you let your pets in the garage, or if you occasionally gets critters (birds, bats, squirrels, etc.) inside they'll set off false alarms. It should be connected into your house security system (assuming you have one) and that should be monitored, so it will call out and alert someone if there's a breakin or fire when you're not home.
 

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Stuart in MN said:
Don't advertise - be careful who you tell about all the cool cars and tools and things you have in your garage. When you're home, don't leave the garage door open so people passing by can see what you have.

I'd actually say this is the number one line of defense - don't give them a reason to come looking. Once they've decided that it is worth breaking in they will likely find some way to circumvent just about anything else you can do.
 

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autoist said:
Model M1911 .45 caliber & everybody in neighborhood convinced you're a "crazy Vietnam vet"!!
Its not my neighbors that worry me, Its the crack head gangs that go around my town picking out random places to break into at 330 am. I have solved the problem now,,,,A silent alarm that wakes me up as anyone ENTERS MY GARAGE.............THEY DONT KNOW THAT I WILL BE HIDDEN OUTSIDE WAITING FOR THEM TO OPEN THE DOOR AS THEY "TRY" TO LEAVE,,,,YUK YUK
 

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I'd also add some steel band iron, attached horizontally, to the walls. I've heard of thieves using chainsaws to cut a section of wall out to get at a car. The chainsaw blade would theoretically be ruined when it hits one.
 

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MXtras said:
This is a link to a security system and a write up I did on the X-10 Wireless security system I installed in my commercial building. I really like it and it has not given me one false alarm or a single issue in the last 1.5 years or so. I would highly recommend it to anyone.

http://www.x10.com/security/wireless_systems.html

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19513&highlight=shop+security

Scott

Scott, That seems like a really good system for very little investment. Obviously I'd have to have a phone jack and pay for monthly local phone service to get the emergency calls. My question is: In my red iron commercial building with all the wiring run through conduit will that affect the way the sensors "communicate"?
Brad
 

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thefairlaneman said:
Its not my neighbors that worry me, Its the crack head gangs that go around my town picking out random places to break into at 330 am. I have solved the problem now,,,,A silent alarm that wakes me up as anyone ENTERS MY GARAGE.............THEY DONT KNOW THAT I WILL BE HIDDEN OUTSIDE WAITING FOR THEM TO OPEN THE DOOR AS THEY "TRY" TO LEAVE,,,,YUK YUK

I love that idea, except for the fact that the guy will probably sue you and win for the "attack". Although, I'd be tempted to pull out my AR-15 and rattle off a couple rounds at the a-hole. Let him run...

Don't everyone forget to LOCK YOUR TOOLBOX. If he gets in, at least he won't walk away with your tools!

Oh yea, don't leave you car keys in the garage or in the car...
 

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One thing I did in the name of security - I wanted windows for light, but didn't want them to be a potential entrance point. These windows are 2'x6' Fixed pane windows, mounted 8' off the floor (9' off the exterior grade). They give me enough light to find my way around withought the lights on, plus they don't get in the way of wall storage.
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I placed two verticle iron bars in my windows (18wx24H). Since my building is concrete blocks, I drilled holes in the sill, and then welded the top to the steele header.

J.
 

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thefairlaneman said:
Whats the best form of security for your garage other than a big nasty AKITA.:pimpflash

Limit the number of windows. This has several advantages: Less entry points (particularly on the blind side of buildings), less place for people to peek in and see what you've got, and windows take up wall space that can better be used for shelves, work stations or hanging parts and cool automobilia.

Solid doors, with dead bolts.

I always keep a couple lights on in my shop and a talk radio station on. People don't know whether or not someone is in there.

If you've got windows, plant really thorny bushes and shrubs below them. Hearty rose plants are great. And they look good, too.

Motion sensor flood lights on the corners are also a good idea.

Brad
 
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6567GTO said:
I'd also add some steel band iron, attached horizontally, to the walls. I've heard of thieves using chainsaws to cut a section of wall out to get at a car. The chainsaw blade would theoretically be ruined when it hits one.
If I had a 65 GTO I wouldnt need a sop security system because I WOULD SLEEP WITH IT EVERY NIGHT............I would let them come and haul away the wife before I would part witha 65 GTO
 

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Geez, guys - doing all that: you're already victims! Back of my garage:

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bmwpower said:
I love that idea, except for the fact that the guy will probably sue you and win for the "attack". Although, I'd be tempted to pull out my AR-15 and rattle off a couple rounds at the a-hole. Let him run...

Don't everyone forget to LOCK YOUR TOOLBOX. If he gets in, at least he won't walk away with your tools!

Oh yea, don't leave you car keys in the garage or in the car...
AS I told the cops. I woulnt just look out the window next time waiting for the cops to arrive while the thieves were walking away with my stuff...and Im not going to just holler at them ans say..."NO NO NO PUT THAT STUFF BACK. "YOU ARE NOT NICE"............THey will make the decision about who shoots first
 
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I had my shop broken into in 2000. I lost a ATV to thieves. Thank goodness for insurance. I now have a alarm on each roll up door and a baby monitor in there also. The rest is handled by Glock or Beretta. :bounce:
 

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Have a good insurance policy with a rider to cover all tools that are above and beond normal homeowner tools. Also be sure to have reciepts and good documentation like pics or video of all valuables. Other than that use good locks and some common sense. As long as you and your family are safe (ie there in the barn and not the house) its not worth going to jail for the rest of your life over a set of harbor freight jackstands.
 

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Are those floor to ceiling windows or an unfinished wall?

Clean, floor-to-ceiling windows...actually, they're individual sliding glass door panels we built into the wall! That's Western Cedar around them & as siding on the wall.
 

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Interesting subject, but I sure don't have any answers; just "build'er stout", add extra locks in unexpected places, as well as all of the usual stuff. One thing, though, don't let your "macho" overcome common sense, and keeping within the law; there is a guy in England doing a life sentence for putting a burglar who attacked him in his own home, in the hospital. In this litigous society we live in these days, well, *&%$%*(*&%T+)_(*^$# !!!!

Say, MXtras, I checked that thread on the CNC forum you referenced, and noted the comments about the 7 hertz effect; I must be a real sicko, too, because I think that would be poetic justice, if it in fact works. You would just have to be sure the wrong folks didn't get the effect, too. :shocking:
 

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Rrumbler said:
there is a guy in England doing a life sentence for putting a burglar who attacked him in his own home, in the hospital.

Yeah, it's not uncommon to hear about a theif hurting himself on someone else's property during the commission of a felony, and then suing his intended victim. Makes me wish there was a common sense law that said something along the lines of "If you are hurt or killed during the commission of a felony, you and your heirs forfeit all right to seek damages from your intended victim."

-Brad
 

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Rrumbler said:
there is a guy in England doing a life sentence for putting a burglar who attacked him in his own home, in the hospital.
I wouldn't be suprised if a fair number of the people who go "missing" each year are actually burglers who've been killed (and disposed of) by homeowners.
 

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autoist said:
Clean, floor-to-ceiling windows...actually, they're individual sliding glass door panels we built into the wall! That's Western Cedar around them & as siding on the wall.

Sweet! Love it! :thumbup:
 
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