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dbwright1159

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Looking for new information on this subject, systems have changed. I can only find 4+yrs ago info.
I have Snap-On Verus Pro EMS327 with update 17.4. I don't need cost estimate, just diagnostic help. Shopkey works with Snap-on but would that be good or would Alldata (I have never used) be better.
 
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you might check alldata's site, they used to have a 30 day trial/reduced $$ so you can see for your self what it is good at.

SHopkey seems to do a better job of wiring diagrams and has tools to chase a single wire across multiple sheets and areas of the vehicle.

For the rest, I prefer AllData...but that is just me.

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Also look into Mitchell One as it is shop key but you will have better support with their sales then shopkey as around here the truck guys sells it and forgets it. FYIW ShopKey and Mitchell One are the same.
 

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You could also try identifix. The known issues and fixes thing they have is good.

I just use google anymore. Honestly in this day and age, almost all the information you would ever need is available for free.
 

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alldata pro with alldata manage,,also iatn covers all your needs ...i pay 212 for all data and 19 for iatn per month,,prints invoices and links to carfax..alldata also just came out with wireless scan tool setup..way cheaper than snap on and updates are part of the package...snap on and shop key and identifix are the same...for me I don't like the format
 

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Go to the iATN web site and sign up. www.iatn.net Then look at the shop management forum and the tools forum. There have been a thousand discussions on this subject there and it is all professionals who use it every day.
 
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dbm52

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We have them all at my work. They need them because they are so large. Mitchell Pro Demand is great for wiring diagrams dog **** for anything else, Identifix is great for looking up oddball or problems not seen all the time. Alldata probably best of all
 

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Hard to tell if you are using it for personal reasons or a shop setting.

All in all, they are all good systems. Will they all have what you want to look at 100% of the time? No. Will the be good enough 95% of the time yes.

I think information systems are just another tool. Like all tools you get it and you get familiar with it and how to use it, and use it the best that you can.

Like others have said Mitchell, shop key and some others are the same thing. I would look at the Mitchell system from a Mitchell representative. Their commissions are driven about the services they sell, and they want you happy with their product. Teaching you how to use it the best.

I am not sold on any of them for management software. Although most will let you drop parts from electronic cataloging right onto the invoice. Because of that most larger parts stores will offer a break on pricing if you use one.

Again it is all how you use it. I use quickbooks. You have to kind of set it up in how you do business. I have kind of taylors mine to do what I want it to do.

I think the one place information management systems fall short on is the business side of things. Most every shop owner I know that has one, still has a quick books side that they pay wages and taxes on. While they may not be doing individual invoicing, they do enter it as sort of a batch, on a daily or weekly basis.

Most systems are subscription based, and I have asked these owners what happens to you business records when you give that up or change. They just kind of get that deer in the headlights look. When it comes to the business side I want that stuff, until I want to get rid of it.

No matter what system you have, you will always have those few websites to look at more. It is just a part of fixing vehicles.
 

Cobra62

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Alldata has new wiring diagrams now, they look very much like shop keys. Alldata is easier to use and seems to have more info.
 

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I have both Alldata and Prodemand in the shop. I prefer Alldata, especially the wiring (factory style) wiring diagrams, compared to Mitchell's.

On a Verus platform mitchell's might get the nod because of the intregration. Suretrack come's in handy now and then.
 

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Alldata has new wiring diagrams now, they look very much like shop keys. Alldata is easier to use and seems to have more info.
I was googling around and ended up back here at good old GJ and saw this comment. I got a call from Alldata yesterday trying to get me back after I gave it up because of meager wiring info. He explained their new diagrams and system, and was pretty convincing. Are you able to give a good, current and first hand comparison between the new alldata and shopkey?
I have both Alldata and Prodemand in the shop. I prefer Alldata, especially the wiring (factory style) wiring diagrams, compared to Mitchell's.
What do you like better about alldata regarding the wiring diagrams?
 
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What do you like better about alldata regarding the wiring diagrams?

I like to use inline connectors as test points and for isolation purposes. They are usually shown in the manufacture diagrams but in Mitchell/ShopKey/Prodemand diagrams they are not shown.
 

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I like to use inline connectors as test points and for isolation purposes. They are usually shown in the manufacture diagrams but in Mitchell/ShopKey/Prodemand diagrams they are not shown.
Interesting. I got about a 30-45 minute demo today of the Alldata, and they seemed to have a good amount of OE diagrams, but the very useful ones were the ones redrawn from OEM by Bosch. I didn't notice if it had inline connectors. Isn't it Honda that does that a lot, and will change the wire color in the middle?

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