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Shorten A Driveshaft:

drive em

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Here is a pictorial on how to shorten your driveshaft. You may need to shorten your driveshaft because of a ****** change, rear end change, or in my case because I had no driveshaft at all for the '65 Mustang I am working on. This may be one of those projects people shy away from because they think that there are special procedure, tools or black magic involved. I am here to tell you that I have shortened dozens of driveshafts this very way, and very very few have needed to be balanced.



The car I am working on had no driveshaft at all, so I went to the driveshaft vault and found a suitable core. In this case it was a Ford driveshaft out of an un-known vehicle, but it was a 3" O.D. shaft that had 3 1/4 yokes that would accept 1 1/16" U-joint cups, which is what I would be using. I inspected it for dents and rust or any other damage and deemed it suitable for shortening.



The first step is to measure for the new driveshaft. The procedure I use is to push the slip yoke all the way into the ******, and pull it out 1 1/4":



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With the weight of the vehicle on the springs, I measure from the flat of the rear end yoke:



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.......to the center of the front U-joint. In this case the measurement was 51 1/2":



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We now need to cut one of the yokes off. I try to cut opposite of the balance weights if I can. I grab my 4 1/2" angle grinder with a thin cut off wheel and cut the edge of the weld towards the center of the shaft. You need to cut only as deep as the tubing is thick so in our case, slightly more that 1/16". It is better to cut a smaller amount than needed than to go too deep:



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With the cutting done, the yoke should come right out with a couple of taps of the hammer. If it does not come out, you need to cut a little deeper:



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This is the yoke after is is out of the shaft:



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We now need to shorten the tube. The shaft I was cutting was 56 " center to center, so 4 1/2" would need to be cut off. I use a thin wall tubing cutter because it cuts perfectly straight. You could use a cut off saw, but make sure that the cut is perfectly square:



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Here is the tube after the cut and after de-burring with a file:



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The yoke can now be tapped in to the tube and the center to center measurement adjusted. I like to leave about 3 /32" of a gap for welding into. I also place both flats of the end yoke on a flat surface to make sure that they are both in the same plane. You can adjust the yoke wherever you want it with a couple of hammer taps:



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The front U-joint and yoke can now be installed, as well as the back U-joint. The driveshaft can now be bolted into the vehicle. At this point you might be thinking,"He forgot to weld the yoke on." I didn't forget, I do this so I can check the run out with a dial indicator. I mount a dial indicator on the rear end, and set it against the drive shaft tube to measure the run out. You can now adjust the run out with a few well placed hammer taps. I try to achieve the smallest amount of run out possible, in this case about .004" which is pretty good. With the driveshaft still bolted in the car, I tack weld it in four places:



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The driveshaft can now be removed from the car in order to be welded. I would strongly suggest that you have at least a 185 amp MIG welder for the next step. If you are not comfortable with your welding skills, take it to someone who is qualified to weld it:



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A little paint, and we now have a finished driveshaft. As I said before, I have shortened dozens of driveshafts just like I describe, and only a few have needed to be balanced, but even if you need one to be balanced, you have saved a considerable amount of money shortening it yourself:



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eddyyy302

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I have a quick question. Does a small dent in a driveshaft affect it in any way other than possibly throwing it out of balance?

Thanks,
Dan
 

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I've made quite a few as well.The yokes are supposed to be "in phase" not 90* apart.I've made a bunch of them for highway tractors and forestry equipment on the tailgate of my service truck.I went in to a parts supplier one day to buy tubing and as I was leaving the guy says you'll never find anyone to make or balance a shaft for you on a saturday.I told him not to worry since I had one of those new "tailgate lathes".He couldn't believe anybody could just make a shaft on the back of a truck.That shaft has been going up and down the highway for 8 yrs now hauling 30ton loads daily.Many guys are scared of doing something unusual or thinking outside the box.In forestry work it's everyday life.
 

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This may be one of those projects people shy away from because they think that there are special procedure, tools or black magic involved. I am here to tell you that I have shortened dozens of driveshafts this very way, and very very few have needed to be balanced.
Yep. Nice work. Not really rocket science, but many people are very scared to try it.

I've made a bunch of them for highway tractors and forestry equipment on the tailgate of my service truck... Many guys are scared of doing something unusual or thinking outside the box.In forestry work it's everyday life.
I didn't have a tailgate to use, but I threw mine together using the bed rail... http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51919
 

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Hmm, have you checked runout since final welding? IME it moves considerably. I do it on the lathe and then shrink w water to get it to pull how I want after final welding.
 
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drive em

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Hmm, have you checked runout since final welding? IME it moves considerably. I do it on the lathe and then shrink w water to get it to pull how I want after final welding.


Yep, I checked it after tacking it, and after welding it and nothing moved.
 
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deadeye

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Doing a mustang foxbody 460/c6 ,,, thanks before i read your post i had no clue ,thanks deadeye
 

KyleQ

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I've always shortened them in the middle, I find it easier to keep things square. I added length to this one-



I did a three pass weld at the end as this is on a 4x4 and doesn't see speed. On a road drive drive shaft I would do a nice single pass and have it balanced.

I basically clamp everything in two pieces of angle iron and tack weld in 4 places and then weld the gaps in an alternating pattern while everything is clamped.
 

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Just for comparison sake I just spent shy of $240.00 to have a Volvo 2 piece
shortened and mated to a Ford yoke. He supplied the yoke.
I love that some of you are doing it yourself.
 

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One more quick tip for those of you who decide to do this on a Saturday when you can't find a large enough tubing cutter, take a large stainless steel rad clamp and screw it down on the line you wish to cut, it will always tighten down square so you will have a good guide to cut to and grind true if necessary... Done this many times befor ebuying a large cutter as well, built and stretched many trucks in to slideoff units and heavy tow trucks, the last being a 60 ton tandem Kenworth....
 

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I've always shortened them in the middle, I find it easier to keep things square. I added length to this one-

I did a three pass weld at the end as this is on a 4x4 and doesn't see speed. On a road drive drive shaft I would do a nice single pass and have it balanced.

I basically clamp everything in two pieces of angle iron and tack weld in 4 places and then weld the gaps in an alternating pattern while everything is clamped.

I modified a shaft at the yoke and never had a problem.

Then I modified one in the middle without sleeving it and I got a nice crack through my HAZ after a couple years of wheeling. It got cutout, sleeved, rosetted and **** welded and was fine right up until the 1350CV blew up:mad:

The twist angle the shaft see from end yoke to end yoke isn't linear due to the changing cross section and depending on the wall thickness can be enough to fatigue a single **** weld is all I can gather.
 

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I cut and shorten in the middle also with a sleeve. One thing I always do before cutting is to draw a line down the lenght of the tub so that it can be assembled back in the same phase that it was in before cutting.

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Thanks to whoever bumped this, I might just get crazy and try this on my own when I put the 727 in my Duster.
 
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