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Stopped by my local napa today to check out the new tools. Nothing in stock yet. The sales guy said the managers for the company were in meetings today about the new tools but they didnt even have a catalog in stock to give me. Hopefullythey will know more next week. Maybe i should keep an eye out for the NHT 70% off sale metioned above.
 
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Here's some quick pics of the sockets. :)

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One of my complaints. Purely superficial, but with a socket this big, you'd think they could have cleaned up the inside a little better.
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The finish otherwise is pretty impressive. Stamping is uniform across all sockets. Nice and clear. Knurling is nice and grippy. All sockets are formed dead center. No thin or thick walls.
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The worst "defect." Looks like somewhere in the assembly, the 32mm socket got knicked or something before plating.
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Another group shot. These things are seriously shiny. VERY VERY nice chrome.
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I'll be honest.... I haven't read this whole thread, but I came to it because I love looking at
different makes of tools. When I saw the title "Show off your Carlyle tools" and it's more
than three pages long... I thought Jackpot..... But 85+ posts later and no one other than
the OP has posted a single pic..... :confused:
 

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I like that reduced diameter towards the top by the drive end; that's excellent. Some of the MAC 1/4 drive sockets are that way. :)
 

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I like the knurling at the base of the socket. I'm sure this will help if your hands are greasy/oily and you're using a ratchet with no quick release.

I haven't looked at the sockets closely nor bought any yet, but I am curious if all of the sockets have this feature?? This is a very good idea, especially if its found on all of the different drive sizes.
 

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I'll be honest.... I haven't read this whole thread, but I came to it because I love looking at
different makes of tools. When I saw the title "Show off your Carlyle tools" and it's more
than three pages long... I thought Jackpot..... But 85+ posts later and no one other than
the OP has posted a single pic..... :confused:

Read post 44.

I was likely the first to purchase this tool line on this forum and the first to post up pics and start a thread on those pics.

What ensued sucked and I have better things to do with my time taking pictures, editing them and posting them, then dealing with stupid romper room ********.

I commend the OP of this thread for his diligence and optimism, unfortunately I no longer share those virtues concerning this forum.

I thought the ford/chevy/jeep/toyota/international debates on some 4x4 forums I belong to were incredulous but this forum far surpasses that level.
 

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those sockets look damn good, i bet they hold up well also.

i wouldnt compare them to gearwrench, not in the same league in my eyes.

let us know how they do in action.
 

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I'll be honest.... I haven't read this whole thread, but I came to it because I love looking at
different makes of tools. When I saw the title "Show off your Carlyle tools" and it's more
than three pages long... I thought Jackpot..... But 85+ posts later and no one other than
the OP has posted a single pic..... :confused:

Stratman977 has posted pics in another thread...of his already broken ratchet :lol_hitti
 

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I have to admit, those sockets look pretty nice, better than I thought they would.
 

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I ordered a set 12 point 1/4 drive shallow sockets at napa today. These they didn't have in stock--next day delivery.

Can't think of actually needing 12 point 1/4 drive sockets but couldn't justify spending money for a set of sockets in a size I already have
 

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Read post 44.

I was likely the first to purchase this tool line on this forum and the first to post up pics and start a thread on those pics.

What ensued sucked and I have better things to do with my time taking pictures, editing them and posting them, then dealing with stupid romper room ********.

I commend the OP of this thread for his diligence and optimism, unfortunately I no longer share those virtues concerning this forum.

I thought the ford/chevy/jeep/toyota/international debates on some 4x4 forums I belong to were incredulous but this forum far surpasses that level.

What happened..? I must have missed that thread.

Apart from some members getting their knickers in a twist about some tools
no longer being made in the Centre of the Universe I have always thought
this forum was one of the most helpful and friendliest around, and I feel
quite proud to be a member here.
 

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So far I am very impressed with what I have seen on GJ about these Carlyle tools. The ratchets, wrenches, and now these sockets, all look high quality. Need to check them out in person!
 

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Has anybody found out who is making the tools? Danaher made the old USA line, but from what I have seen the ratchets do not match another name brand tool.
 

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I ordered a set 12 point 1/4 drive shallow sockets at napa today. These they didn't have in stock--next day delivery.

Can't think of actually needing 12 point 1/4 drive sockets but couldn't justify spending money for a set of sockets in a size I already have

How much were they. I would like to give their sockets a try but I don't really need any at the moment. I don't have 1/4 inch 12 point sockets though.

I like the wrenches too but I already have two drawers full of wrenches and I have a full set of metric and sae napa wrenches I use alot. (The old easco tear drop raised panel style.) I just can't see myself buying another set of wrenches just to watch them or one of the other sets collect dust. I like that they have the wrenches with the socket end on them but they are $300 a set.

You did really take a beating in these threads. I think there is a void in the tool market for decent quality tools that are readily available ever since sears took a dump in the quality department. The tool trucks have nice stuff but the common handyman doesn't have good access to this stuff. If they sold snap on in some hardware store or auto parts store I think there would be alot of interest but they don't. And I don't mean the Chinese snap on flahlights and knives but the real deal tools. I think napa is on to something here but I don't know how well they will do because they probably will screw themselves with poor availablilty and display.
 
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You did really take a beating in these threads. I think there is a void in the tool market for decent quality tools that are readily available ever since sears took a dump in the quality department. The tool trucks have nice stuff but the common handyman doesn't have good access to this stuff. If they sold snap on in some hardware store or auto parts store I think there would be alot of interest but they don't. And I don't mean the Chinese snap on flahlights and knives but the real deal tools. I think napa is on to something here but I don't know how well they will do because they probably will screw themselves with poor availablilty and display.

You honestly think there would be a large enough demand for a homeowner to pay $150 for a small socket set vs. $15 at the local Wal-Mart or Sears? Really? Honestly I think there would be zero demand.
 
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How much were they. I would like to give their sockets a try but I don't really need any at the moment. I don't have 1/4 inch 12 point sockets though.



You did really take a beating in these threads. I think there is a void in the tool market for decent quality tools that are readily available ever since sears took a dump in the quality department. The tool trucks have nice stuff but the common handyman doesn't have good access to this stuff. If they sold snap on in some hardware store or auto parts store I think there would be alot of interest but they don't. And I don't mean the Chinese snap on flahlights and knives but the real deal tools. I think napa is on to something here but I don't know how well they will do because they probably will screw themselves with poor availablilty and display.

It was 30 something dollars. I'll pick them up Saturday and can give you an exact amount.

Yea I took some hits, but after spending 11 years in US Army Special Forces and some time spent in the ****, it ain't no biggy. I have other things to do rather than worrying about some internet forum members having sand in their clits
 

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You honestly think there would be a large enough demand for a homeowner to pay $150 for a small socket set vs. $15 at the local Wal-Mart or Sears? Really? Honestly I think there would be zero demand.

Actually yes but not enough to open a store strictly to do that. I'm not saying stock a full store but have a few sets of wrenches and ratchets and special order the rest. I'm not a tech, I have some snap on tools and a I have a few buddies who buy snap on stuff but they have to scrounge to get it because you can't buy it anywhere. You would sell it to the guys who collect old cars, the off roaders, and even the guys who drive a diesel truck when a chevy cavalier will do everything they want. Yeah you can order it online but they don't give you any break on it and online customer service isn't the same as a store.

There's so many stories of people being handed down a full chest of craftsman tools from their father because in the day sears has the reputation for quality tools that were easily obtainable. I would be embarrassed to hand down my kids a set of craftsman tools from today.

You're right your everyday homeowner that gets their oil changed at a jiffy lube and needs to tighten the arm rest on their explorer won't buy Carlyle or snap on though.
 

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Here's a few things I have. The wrenches and ratchets were talked about in another thread and have been used daily since 7/5. I really like the ratchets. I only grabbed 3 open stock wrenches in 10, 13, and 15 to try out. With several drawers of metric wrenches, I'm not in the market for whole sets despite picking up a proto set the other day.
back to the subject at hand. I picked up two very complete metric socket sets yesterday, one in 1/4 and the other in 3/8 drive. The 1/4 set comes on a single vim type rail with 6 point sizes in 4-15mm. The set even includes 4.5 and 5.5 mm sizes. The sockets have great chrome, are well finished inside and out, have decent sized stamped size markings, and all have nice cutouts in the square drive end for drive tool retention balls, and feature off corner engagement. The set retails for $39.99 but, there are discounts out there that drop the price down.
The 3/8 drive set is also very complete running from 6 to 24 mm without skipping. The set comes on two vim style rails. Nice chrome, excellent finish, nice broaching, etc. The Carlyle sockets are a hair taller than other brands. You would be hard pressed to find a more complete 3/8 drive 6 point set for less than $72.
Let's talk about the knurled band for a moment. On most brands the knurled band on metric socket is an identification aid for metric sockets. The knurled band on Carlyle socket is in the center of the socket and is deep enough to aid in finger spinning. However, as I have mentioned when talking about knurled extensions, you need the knurling around the square drive area. Which is where Gearwrench puts it on their metric sockets.
I'll swap out my regular sockets on my work cart and see how these do.
Carlyle tools aren't meant to make you give up your truck brand tools and most home owners don't shop NAPA for anything, let alone tools. The Carlyle line is simply another choice. I'm interested in seeing their open stock availability increase to try some of their stubby wrenches in 8 and over 19mm sizes.
 

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To be honest these tools dont look to be any thing special, or am i missing something?

i must ask, what would make them stand out in your eyes? gold plating?


its hard to make a judgement on something from pictures.. have you handled or used any of them?

i dont see anything special with snap on either, when i see pictures of them.
 

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i must ask, what would make them stand out in your eyes? gold plating?


its hard to make a judgement on something from pictures.. have you handled or used any of them?

i dont see anything special with snap on either, when i see pictures of them.

i agree it is hard to make an informed decision about quality, feel and performance based on a picture, that is why i asked what makes them so special? because all i can gather from the pictures is lots of shiny chrome and nice packaging which dosent mean they are any good or other wise as far as im aware these tools arent available in UK so i am unlikely to handle them myself , thats why i asked the question.
 

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i gotcha, i was being a smart ***.

they designed these tools to compete with truck level pro tools, but be available to the general public, and be a bit more affordable.

they havent been out long enough for anyone to comment on durability or design flaws. that will take some time of using them hard and see what happens. other than that, they are just another brand of tools, that may or may not be the bees knees...

nothing special or revolutionary. just another option on the market
 

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Will these tools replace the existing NAPA range or will they be sold side by side?

Yes, they are replacing the napa tool line.

A good thing about that is there are now big discounts on napa branded tools. I picked up a couple of brass hammers that normally would have run 75 dollars for 20 dollars
 

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I thought that both lines might be offered together kinda like snap-on/bluepoint or matco/silver eagle, looks like a good time to stock up on discounted NAPA tools.
 

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Gotta look at a few of wrenches yesterday...my napa doesn't have very many of them yet, just a few wrench sets and socket set that were in the boxes. The wrenches were very nice and very high quality (much nicer then my KT pros.) I wished I could have seen some ratchets (thats what I was most interested in.) Definitely a great option when in need of nice tools fast.
 

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1/4 drive 12 pt standard socket set ran me $32.83. 1/8-9/16

Theses sockets do not have the knurling near the base like the larger sizes do
 

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I thought that both lines might be offered together kinda like snap-on/bluepoint or matco/silver eagle, looks like a good time to stock up on discounted NAPA tools.

As mentioned above NAPA Pro now Carlyle is the high line and Evercraft the low line (think Blue Point).

Even a lot of the Evercraft tools are no slouches.

The fact that NAPA did and still does complete tools sets (10-19mm no skips or 4 thru 15mm no skips including 4.5 and 5.5) says a lot.

Again, they are not discount tools, but they are very capable.

Theses sockets do not have the knurling near the base like the larger sizes do


The SAE/std sockets do NOT have teh knurling. The metric sockets DO. That is the way NAPA visually differentiates them instead of a paint color or stripe. Not ideal but it is a "way".
 
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I like the knurling at the base of the socket. I'm sure this will help if your hands are greasy/oily and you're using a ratchet with no quick release.

I haven't looked at the sockets closely nor bought any yet, but I am curious if all of the sockets have this feature?? This is a very good idea, especially if its found on all of the different drive sizes.

I believe all the METRIC sockets have the knurling. :)


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Ooops, i was beat to that.
 

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Do all NAPA stores have the good tools hanging behind the counter? I like to keep to myself in a store, especially when I'm just looking and the folks at the counter are busy. It's really annoying to have to ask to look at a freakin' socket...

I've never seen it anywhere else, and I WOULD have bought a few things there by now but seriously, what the heck.
 

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As mentioned above NAPA Pro now Carlyle is the high line and Evercraft the low line (think Blue Point).

Even a lot of the Evercraft tools are no slouches.

The fact that NAPA did and still does complete tools sets (10-19mm no skips or 4 thru 15mm no skips including 4.5 and 5.5) says a lot.

Again, they are not discount tools, but they are very capable.




The SAE/std sockets do NOT have teh knurling. The metric sockets DO. That is the way NAPA visually differentiates them instead of a paint color or stripe. Not ideal but it is a "way".

Thanks for the info, i guess time will tell weather or not the Carlyle tools hold up to daily professional use.
 

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Do all NAPA stores have the good tools hanging behind the counter?

The good tools are kept behind the counter and the Evercraft tools are out on the floor. The message being: "We don't care if you steal our Evercraft tools, but you are not allowed to steal our good NAPA/Carlyle tools." :D
 
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Do all NAPA stores have the good tools hanging behind the counter? I like to keep to myself in a store, especially when I'm just looking and the folks at the counter are busy. It's really annoying to have to ask to look at a freakin' socket...

I've never seen it anywhere else, and I WOULD have bought a few things there by now but seriously, what the heck.

Every Advance near me has their Gearwench stuff behind the counters.

Every Sears has all their sockets, ratchets, and wrenches locked up in cabinets.
 
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