Show us your cool, "old" drill press
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oldldh
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Outlaw---are you sure that's big enough???
Outlawmws
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Well, I'm a bit confused: the Pics are clearly the same DP, and his labels must say Candy-Otto, but the manual says Cincinnati Lathe and Tool Co. 
Manual says the spindle taper could be Morse 1, 2, 3, or Jacobs #3 or 33, or a 5/816 NS thread...
Have to wait on that...
Manual says the spindle taper could be Morse 1, 2, 3, or Jacobs #3 or 33, or a 5/816 NS thread...
Have to wait on that...
Outlawmws
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Nice press outlaw. Did you get it?
Here's a quick youtube of one of my presses vs a new machine that obviously has some issues. Can't remember if I posted this here before. (anyone know a better way to post a youtube? other than a link?)
No, tomorrow, if things go as agreed...
Outlawmws
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tool_scrounge
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Well, I'm a bit confused: the Pics are clearly the same DP, and his labels must say Candy-Otto, but the manual says Cincinnati Lathe and Tool Co.
From http://vintagemachinery.org
Canedy & Edwards was established by William Eaton Canedy in 1889 when he moved his firm, the Minnesota Anvil & Vice Co. to Downers Grove, IL and took William H. Edwards as a partner. The business began in Rochester, Minnesota, but had moved to the Chicago area by 1889. By 1894, Albert T. Otto had joined the firm,the company name had changed to Canedy-Otto Manufacturing Co. and they had moved again to Chicago Heights, IL. The company was dissolved in 1942, but was then revived for a time, perhaps as part of the war effort. In 1949 the company was sold at public auction and was acquired by Cincinnati Lathe & Tool Co. and operated as the "Canedy-Otto Division" of that firm. This division reportedly lasted until 1956, but at least some of the Canedy-Otto product line continued under the "Cincinnati Lathe & Tool Co." name.
In their earlier days Canedy-Otto primarily made blacksmithing equipment, such as post drills, tire shrinkers and blowers. In later years they made heavy-duty drill presses, plus they made a combination machine for working wood and metal.
Outlawmws
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Thanks tool scrounge, I hadn't had time to go digging for that!
drivesitfar
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my little bench Canedy-Otto might only weigh 80 pounds and it wasn't that easy to get in and out of my Honda. so your telling me you are going to hand load and unload this 405 pound drill press in your mini van.
"YOU DA MAN" !!!!!!!
"YOU DA MAN" !!!!!!!
jakemac
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Remember – Leverage (and a sliding carpet) is your friend. 
Pumba
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Thought I would share my drill press as this would not be something you guys would be used to seeing.
Tanner, local brand that was manufactured here in New Zealand. I am not sure on the year, but I inherited it from my dad about 7 or 8 years ago and he had it in the farm workshop for all of my memory (20 years) prior to that.
(Sorry about picture quality).
Tanner, local brand that was manufactured here in New Zealand. I am not sure on the year, but I inherited it from my dad about 7 or 8 years ago and he had it in the farm workshop for all of my memory (20 years) prior to that.
(Sorry about picture quality).
sasquatch12
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Interesting drill, but,, what are BUZZERS on the tag??
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Pumba
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drivesitfar
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buzzers = planer (interesting)
I guess you guys do things a bit different down under and really like the pallet under you awesome planer so you can move it around with your pallet jack instead of the little wheels we use here.
nice old drill press by the way and thanks for sharing.
I guess you guys do things a bit different down under and really like the pallet under you awesome planer so you can move it around with your pallet jack instead of the little wheels we use here.
nice old drill press by the way and thanks for sharing.
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jakemac
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OK - my OCD just kicked in. Sorry.
That isn't a Planer it's a Jointer. A Planer is used to reduce the thickness of the material. A Jointer is used to square and true the edges.
Buzzer = Jointer
( I feel so much better now
)
That isn't a Planer it's a Jointer. A Planer is used to reduce the thickness of the material. A Jointer is used to square and true the edges.
Buzzer = Jointer
( I feel so much better now
)drivesitfar
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Jake you are absolutely correct and my left or right side of the knoggin wasn't working correctly since I was looking at a drill press thread.
the world is back on it's axis again.
BTW my 13 inch planer isn't as big and heavy as his Jointer so maybe that was part of the problem too.
the world is back on it's axis again.
BTW my 13 inch planer isn't as big and heavy as his Jointer so maybe that was part of the problem too.
sasquatch12
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Agreed, jointer here also.
Outlawmws
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Those are also known as "planer/jointer", so he isn't that far off...
Pumba, better pic of the DP vise? Is that a thick grip axial handle on that, or something else?
Pumba, better pic of the DP vise? Is that a thick grip axial handle on that, or something else?
Outlawmws
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OK I leave to go get it in the next 30-40 min! 
I'm getting antsy!
I'm getting antsy! drivesitfar
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I thought the handle for that drill press vise was an end to an Olympic bar for weight plates.
Outlaw I hope you are bringing some help for that 400 pound drill press because your gonna need a little more than a nice piece of carpet.
or do tell your secret after you have it back sitting upright in your shop?
good luck
Outlaw I hope you are bringing some help for that 400 pound drill press because your gonna need a little more than a nice piece of carpet.
or do tell your secret after you have it back sitting upright in your shop?
good luck
Radio Ron w4ron
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Does anyone have a easy method of polishing the round metal post of
an old drill press?
It'd be nice to have a big lathe that I could mount it in and then spin
polish it.
an old drill press?
It'd be nice to have a big lathe that I could mount it in and then spin
polish it.
Outlawmws
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OK I didn't find one in here, and Vintage machinery will take me all night... (But I'm digging...)
Anyone recognize the brand? if I was told right, its an 18" floor stander, with a crank up table.
If all goes as agreed, I pick this bad boy up tomorrow...
OK! 2 hour round trip to get it, pay for it, loading, and look at a few other things the guy had for sale ( didn't buy anything else...).
The good; It's home, no damage was done, and I got it for....
Wait for it....
$125
The bad:
The motor is a dime store motor as far as I'm concerned (1/3 HP...), and the 8 step pulley for the motor is missing, so "out of the box" its a 1 speed.
I will probably move my Treadmill motor setup from he Rockwell to this one, put the Rockwell's original motor back on, and sell it...
The VERY GOOD NEWS
is the table had a 1" thick steel plate bolted to the top. I took it off expecting the worst, and damn me and bury me in the mother lode, but the table top is PRISTINE! even the plate top was clean...but the underside did have an arc of shame! someone had flipped it over! Even the column is near rust free, A few minor patches, and that is all! Loading:
Was a piece of cake, 1 bolt and 1 nut and the table came off the column mount; 85 lbs off the thing (35 for the table, 50 for the plate...), and we took off the belt guard, (shop, not factory made) so we would not bend it up moving it. I will keep that belt guard though, its pretty nice!
Hand trucked it to my mini van, set my piano dolly at the very end tilted it over and rested the head on that. lifted the base, rolled it in, got it catty corner, and came within an inch of getting the tail gate closed, so that just got tied down.
Yes three of us loaded it, but two would have sufficed. my son came along and just the two of us unloaded it...
Drove home reversed the process and it's in the garage near the side door.
Now for a complete rebuild!
I'll get more "before" pics up tomorrow, I had to go with my son and look at his computer shaped brick, which is apparently "powered" by a power supply shaped brick.. Hopefully that is all it is.. (a new build but DOA...)
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Outlawmws
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Ron, a couple of guys set theirs up on faked up live centers, and used a slow RPM hand drill to spin it, and wet sanded the column. An expansion plug with a stem in one end and a rag padded cradle will also do the trick, the key is not to fast...
Pumba
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Well I have to come clean straight up that I am not much if a wood worker so I am sure I am wrong. The pic was just one from the internet that I grabbed, so not my "jointer".
Just want to confirm for my own self interest is this what you guys would call a Planer?
As I would have called it a thicknesser.
Moving to a photo of the DP vise.
It is a solid old beast, that as you can see as been repaired at some stage if its life. I am looking to get something new and have my eye on a 2 axis job, something like this.
Probably completely unnecessary but you never know
Just want to confirm for my own self interest is this what you guys would call a Planer?
As I would have called it a thicknesser.
Moving to a photo of the DP vise.
It is a solid old beast, that as you can see as been repaired at some stage if its life. I am looking to get something new and have my eye on a 2 axis job, something like this.
Probably completely unnecessary but you never know
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drivesitfar
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yes Pumba that is a Planer. Jet is one of the makers of a planer/jointer and I attached a picture of one of them that is both. the big machine you posted first was a planer only I think that might have been a 12 inch.
by the way that is the biggest handle for a little drill press vise I've ever seen.
Outlaw: You Da Man moving that drill press on a little dolly in and out of a van by yourself. just curious when you say you had a piano dolly was that inside the van that you tipped the drill press on to roll it in and then back out when you arrived home. sounds like a great deal that only some of us would know how to fix. good luck
by the way that is the biggest handle for a little drill press vise I've ever seen.
Outlaw: You Da Man moving that drill press on a little dolly in and out of a van by yourself. just curious when you say you had a piano dolly was that inside the van that you tipped the drill press on to roll it in and then back out when you arrived home. sounds like a great deal that only some of us would know how to fix. good luck
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Graham r ford
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The drill press is a Canedy-otto Royal 18.
http://delaware.craigslist.org/tls/4280899563.html
I saw that craftsman press and was curious about the lowering handle - being one long bar versus several short bars. Is that less common?
I saw that craftsman press and was curious about the lowering handle - being one long bar versus several short bars. Is that less common?
tool_scrounge
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The lower end models of the Craftsman drill presses had two spoke handles, while the 100/150 series had 3 spoke handles. Three or four handles is a lot nicer than two in my opinion.
Good to know, thanks for that info. Price aside on that one, I'll keep looking
I thought I seen on here where someone used some allthread cut longer then the mast and rigged up a setup that way. That's what I think I'm gonna do. Make the allthread about 2 inches longer then the mast, cut some steel caps to hold the mast in place, thread a nut on the allthread, place the cap on the allthread then another nut to apply clamping pressure. Put a second nut on and thread it up to the clamping nut and place a socket on that nut and use the socket to connect to the drill. On the other end of the allthread, do the same but omit the socket and then cradle the allthread in an eyebolt or something just to hold it in place. Does this make sense?
doan
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Trey T
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^I like that contraption.
mcmlvif100
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Alchymist
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RE: Turning drill press column: 2X4 longer than column, foot long piece of 2X6 screwed to each end on the narrow side. Two fixed casters screwed to each piece of 2X6 to cradle each end of the column, small motor with v belt set below 2X4 to turn column. Support on sawhorses, buckets, whatever.
jabberwoki
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Nice job Outlaw looking forward to the restore thread. Looks like that top cover is a really nice fit!
I used an oil filter wrench and a hose clamp, then spun it with a drill...
That sure looks easier then my suggestion. Did you just cradle it in the jackstands and let it spin?
Radio Ron w4ron
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great ideas, thanks.
doan
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I tried to keep a hand on it whenever it was spinning, but it would stay on the jack-stands by itself
drivesitfar
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Doan: Very creative.