Show us your cool, "old" drill press

[Tedley]

Just bought an old Hamilton Varimatic sensitive drilling machine. Needs work.

Upper right side, very highest support link the one connecting to the spindle travel screw, is cracked. I will cast a new one. The next support below that, the top of the two gooseneck like spindle support yoke parts of the main body is slightly cracked. Hope it can be welded. I could probably close the crack by clamping so I don't know yet. And the main jack screw seems to be bent or misaligned enough to be locked, I can force a turn and a half but it's not moving anything noticeability.
It came with a good x,y work bed.

 

[Tedley]

Just bought an old Hamilton Varimatic sensitive drilling machine. Needs work.

Upper right side, very highest support link the one connecting to the spindle travel screw, is cracked. I will cast a new one. The next support below that, the top of the two gooseneck like spindle support yoke parts of the main body is slightly cracked. Hope it can be welded. I could probably close the crack by clamping so I don't know yet. And the main jack screw seems to be bent or misaligned enough to be locked, I can force a turn and a half but it's not moving anything noticeability.
It came with a good x,y work bed.

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[Outlawmws]

Don, That's way cool! How well does that variable speed work with that rubber drive wheel?
Jim

I have no idea I just unloaded it and it started to rain so I just put it in the building and didn't really look at it

Yep, I agree, its a variable speed as you adjust the tire up or down.

And great finds/saves Don!

 

[Outlawmws]

Re: Show us your cool, "old" drill press

Yes it has the tilt table which I hear means it's a 100. The motor shaft is 1/2".

Yep, that's on the earlier 100. not much difference other than that and paint/cosmetics for the 100/150

 

[Outlawmws]

Ted, your pics aren't showing

 

[Tedley]

Ted, your pics aren't showing

Sorry I hope this works... I don't think taptalk likes me and I'm drowning in pictures trying to resize. I really just wanna read someone else's restore thread but I know I'm gonna need some help from you guys so here goes again.

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[Outlawmws]

Now they are working. Looks like a cool project! Ask away and we can see if we are any help!

 

[Evergreentree]

Ok, finally bought a drill press. My first one. Dunlap 103.23021
What does that date to? Bought that and an old little bench top grinder with it(had to have it). Everything works great, just needs some tidying up, and adjustments, belt, etc. think I'm going to go with the links.

 

[Outlawmws]

Without digging though the Catalog PDF's and better pics, I can't help with a date. there may be a date code on the motor that may or may not help. (Many DP's were sold without motors and the owners were responsible for supplying a motor...)

The first three digits (103) say this is a King Seely made DP.

 

[Evergreentree]

Maybe this picture is better. I'll look for the date on the motor in the am. I didn't know k.s. Made the dunlap, thought just the craftsman? Did they always make the Dunlap?

 

[Outlawmws]

KS made THAT Dunlap not necessarily all Dunlap tools; even in the power tools.

Dunlap was a Sears marketing name just as Craftsman is. Craftsman is the only one (other than the Sears name itself) that has had long term longevity for tools. ALL the tools under ALL the marketing names were and are made by companies on contract. there are no "Craftsman made" tools

Pic; Not really too small and we need them from several angles.

 

[S4cruiser]

I was planning to go with linked belts but ended up just using conti ribbed ones from Amazon. They are much cheaper and seem to be very quiet.

I heard the linked ones shed like no other...

 

[Outlawmws]

I was planning to go with linked belts but ended up just using conti ribbed ones from Amazon. They are much cheaper and seem to be very quiet.

I heard the linked ones shed like no other...

Heard from where?

ALL belts shed if used. (Its rubber/synthetics to metal after all) The amount depends on many factors...

 

[WhoWhatNow]

Wonder if tsc has link belts? Off to check out the Dunlap and some vises! Good trip for a rainy day! I'll post it if I get it!

Harbor Freight sells the 1/2" link belts. $24 and you can use the 20% off coupon.

 

[S4cruiser]

Heard from where?

ALL belts shed if used. (Its rubber/synthetics to metal after all) The amount depends on many factors...

Someone that had used them before and switched back to ribbed ones. I personally have never used linked belts. Just passing along what I have heard but YMMV.

 

[bagged89s10]

Maybe this picture is better. I'll look for the date on the motor in the am. I didn't know k.s. Made the dunlap, thought just the craftsman? Did they always make the Dunlap?

That's pretty much the same as the craftsman 80 drill press. It's a 13.5" drill press which is their smaller version. That means you cut drill to the center of something 6.75" in diameter.

If I am right, this one on vintage machinery is the same drill press with craftsman badges.

 

[Evergreentree]

Cool bagged. Love the look of them, especially next to a Wilton vise! I don't think I am going to leave mine in its patina, but polish some parts.

The link belts are pricey! Mine is a 3/8" belt. How do you measure belt size? The one on it seems too tight!

It's good ks made this tool then, right? Good quality.

 

[Outlawmws]

I don't think you will have any gripes with it's quality.

DP's use industrial belts so going to an auto place is not the way to go for belts. cars use a slightly different standard and build

IIR you want 3L (the larger DP's use 4L belts) a GOOD hardware store, MSC Grangers should have them.


Have you adjusted the belt? The motor slides for adjustment. It could need adjustment between speed changes as well.

 

[Outlawmws]

Someone that had used them before and switched back to ribbed ones. I personally have never used linked belts. Just passing along what I have heard but YMMV.

My point was that it could have been mechanical issues that caused your source to have issues. I dislike throwing ONE unsubstantiated case out as a reason to dismiss something without qualifiers.

I've not heard of ANY other cases of this, and I'm on all the main stream mill & lathe groups for Clausing, Craftsman, Atlas and others. Link belts are well liked, popular, and used everyday by thousands, if not millions.

 

[S4cruiser]

I dislike throwing ONE unsubstantiated case out as a reason to dismiss something without qualifiers.

My 'qualifier' was that I heard this feedback from someone else. Going forward I'll only share first hand experience to limit confusion.

 

[JZiggy]

My 'qualifier' was that I heard this feedback from someone else. Going forward I'll only share first hand experience to limit confusion.

May have been me. I posted up once about link belts shedding. Not badly but they do somewhat. This was with the green HF belts.

 

[Outlawmws]

Ziggy, were your pulley's in good shape? Aligned properly? And how much black rubber dust has collected since the change back?

I've seen so many worn out dead pulleys on small power tools and fractional HP motors, as most of these are aluminum (if your lucky) or pot mental (if your not..), not to mention side loading from misalignment... (which adds to the wear factors..)

 

[JZiggy]

I didnt use the link belts for long because they don't fit on the front pulley of a CM 100 DP. I ended up throwing the belt onto a different drill press that I flipped so I did not use it that long.

Alignment was good in all cases. I have put a few hours on the cogged rubber belts and yes they also shed a bit... but while the rubber belts shed rubber dust the link belts shed fibrous stuff (maybe abrasive?) My comments about shedding on link belts was just an observation and one of the reasons I prefer cogged belts. I don't have enough information to say "link belts shed badly" or "link belts shed all the time." I have no vendetta here

The cogged belts haven't developed bad lumps for me yet. They have a bit of memory but then after some use they warm up and soften again. I think the cogs help reduce the total strain on the belt as it goes around pulleys.

 

[Outlawmws]

Cool; thanks for the clarifications Ziggy!

 

[S4cruiser]

In hindsight, 'she'd like no other' was probably not the best chosen words either. The cogged belts I recently installed seems to be refraining from significant shedding but I have not done any extensive work with this s press yet either.

 

[motomaniac]

1942ish Charles Allen Drill. It is most similar to their more recent Type 2, but I don't know the model number, if there is one. The previous owner did a lot a research when he rebuilt it and provided me with a bunch of materials from the manufacturer, who is still in business and is located about 45 minutes from me.
Motor is a 1938 Emerson 1/2 hp 3 phase. The leads have worn out and are shorting to the case. I'm hoping that I can have it fixed instead of needing to replace it.

According to the scale at my town's transfer station, it weighs about 1,500lbs

That vise alone is close to, if not over, 100lbs. The table has a serious knee screw for height adjustment and the quill is counterweighted for easy adjustments.

If there is any interest, I can take more pics.

Here is my Allen drill press I think it's 1910-1920s right around that vintage. Its pretty cool drilling holes with a machine thats 100 years old.



Standing next to one of those Taiwan drill presses that flooded the market during the 80s and early 90s

 

[Outlawmws]

Those Asian DPs go back to the mid 70's, at least...

 

[zkling]

Here is my Allen drill press I think it's 1910-1920s right around that vintage. Its pretty cool drilling holes with a machine thats 100 years old.
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Very nice, must be extra sensitive with that tiny pilot wheel.

 

[motomaniac]

Those Asian DPs go back to the mid 70's, at least...

I think the one in the pic is dated 77 sold under CTT. I knew they were around before 1980, but most of them I have seen and 4 out of the five I have owned were from 80 and up.

 

[motomaniac]

Very nice, must be extra sensitive with that tiny pilot wheel.

Now I wish all the drill presses I've owned had steering wheels on them.

 

[bagged89s10]

Show us your cool, "old" drill press

Now I wish all the drill presses I've owned had steering wheels on them.

Kind of like how a lot if guys put steering wheels on their bead rollers.

 

[bagged89s10]

Here is my craftsman drill press in its new location in the corner of my garage. I think it should work well there. Just need to get the new belts and rewire the motor. Then I will do a full restore at some point.

 

[slider16]

Here's the one I helped build at Texas A&M during the '77-'78 school year. We had two teams of two who built every piece except the castings (more advance class) and the chuck. When we finished putting it together, I got it for material cost, about $42 when the other team members didn't need it. It's been in my Dad's shop since then and now it's in mine. I saw a couple of others like it on this thread, just thought I'd show this one and say Gig 'Em!

 

[mike93lx]

Here is my Allen drill press I think it's 1910-1920s right around that vintage. Its pretty cool drilling holes with a machine thats 100 years old.

Standing next to one of those Taiwan drill presses that flooded the market during the 80s and early 90s

Nice drill press. Too bad it's missing the table adjusting screw, but the movable quill alone gives a lot of range.
Does it run well?

 

[motomaniac]

Nice drill press. Too bad it's missing the table adjusting screw, but the movable quill alone gives a lot of range.
Does it run well?

I have a few ideas for a table lift, but honestly I haven't needed to adjust the table yet. But it does run good, yesterday I drilled about 20 3/4 holes through 1/2 plate, and 4 7/8 holes through 1" plate.

 

[Spear]

I wanted the motor and low speed pulleys from this one, this is a 1954

The one I originally had was a 1959, it had 1100rpm 480v 3ph motor with the higher speed pulleys. Here it is with a 110v Dayton motor I put on it on it and 4 to 1 gear reducer that I picked up at a sale

Here's the '54 in pieces

And finished with the motor and pulleys swapped, I sold it

Here's my original '59 with the new (old)freshly rebuilt motor, low speed pulleys and a keyless chuck

 

[jabberwoki]

Just picked up this nice little Rockwell bench top for $20.
It complements Moby well.

 

[CalsXS2]

OK. I don't know about cool just yet. But it's got potential,,,,lol.

Just picked up this Delta dp 220 at an auction. It's currently a table top, but I got a base stand and column for it as well.

Pretty ugly right now.

 

[srr]

My Craftsman, not sure on year but she works fantastic and is powerful. Paid $60 for it.

 

[nine4gmc]

Srr, I'm thinking early 40's but jakemac or one of the other guys will know for sure.

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