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Mike W.

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1940ish Craftsman drill press, hopefully will be my next project.

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I finally put the finishing touches on this restoration by adding the foot feed.

The foot pedal pad was a ****** to find but a member at OWMM helped. I had most of the other parts and fabricated the linkage.

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Doug, check out the site Davefr mentioned above, OWWM. http://www.owwm.org
They have a huge knowledge base there with lots of info.

Davefr, that's freakin sweet man!

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Picked up a few drill presses earlier today :bounce:! Just keeping one and the rest are going to local friends for exactly what I paid for them..which was not much.

Probably keeping the oldest one, on the far left - which one would you guys keep from the lot?

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Do any of them have the optional 3rd pulley? Otherwise, I would keep one of the older ones that's in good condition.
 

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Damn, glad it's you and not me, I'd have to keep them all and try finding a place for them.. I can see making night stands, end tables and lamps out of them...:lol_hitti

Looks like a couple 15-017 models in there? Or are they 15-665, I have restored both so the number slips my mind right now. Either way, I'd consider keeping the ones that do NOT have the peace sign logo. Those are the newer machines, supposedly quality fell off during the peace sign manufacturing dates(1973 on IIRC).
 

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All are 6 speeds. A few are 15-665, a 15-660 and some other variants. I'll probably keep the delta Milwaukee logo'd one but swap tables with one of the others. They are a neat find in my area and damn the 15-665 models are heavy.
 

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Fantastic old drill. i `d love to have one of those.

yeah usually I go for the dp's in the 1930's but this one with that cool finned belt guard really caught my eye. Plus it seems to be all there except the motor which I don't think will be a problem.

I check CL up to about 200 miles out every morning for old machines like this. In fact there's one on there now I'd love to have for $100. Don't know where you're at, this one is in Jacksonville FL
 

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Picked this up today after quite a few months of looking. It's a Craftsman 101 series and it runs quite well. Very little to no noise while running. It's missing a few parts so if anyone has any ideas or stuff they would be interested in selling let me know. It does not have a table, depth stop and proper handle (all of which I would like to obtain)

I would definitely like to take this thing apart and at least clean up the main column. Right now the height adjustment is seized so where it is is where it will stay!

Any tips on restoration, tear down, etc would be appreciated.

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Walker turner 1 147 bench top with slo speed belt cover and lots of patina.

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Belonged to the miller electric company, an industrial contractor established in town in 1912. Iirc this press would have been produced around 1939.

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Its got a fair amount of damage, a chipped pulley and base. The oiling hole cover is missing. Anyone know where to find one?

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One knob mia, i'llneed to come up with something to replace it.

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I let it lay down on the feed handles in my truck and now some have a significant bend to them not thrilled with my self on that point.

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Motor is a bit of a mystery, dont think its oem.

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This is a Barnes Drill No. 0 that I picked up recently and am in the process of cleaning and painting. It has an interesting variable speed mechanism, a vertical disk and a horizontal leather covered disk. Speed is adjusted by moving the horizontal disk up or down on the vertical disk. I will eventually get the hang of adding images.
 

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McMaster should have replacement oilers. Nice find!
Thank you sir, i was going to throw her right into service as everything is tight and movement is smooth but that missing cap and the grit inside has me paranoid about abrasive bits being down in the works.

One thing i know about these old WTs is the bearings are odd and not the easiest thing to replace.

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This is a Barnes Drill No. 0 that I picked up recently and am in the process of cleaning and painting. It has an interesting variable speed mechanism, a vertical disk and a horizontal leather covered disk. Speed is adjusted by moving the horizontal disk up or down on the vertical disk. I will eventually get the hang of adding images.
I like it, vintage infinitely variable shift on the fly mechanism lol.

Works a bit like the Mechanics Machine camelbacks from around 1890, those used a tapered sheve and a leather clad wheel along with a uniquely angled shaft driving the spindle through some bevel wheels.

Theres one in the area I would like to pick up but its missing the entire drivetrain and was converted to v belt at some point.

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Mike W, ENCO used to sell threaded plastic balls like that, probably someone like Mc Master, carries them.
have to straighten the feed handles best you can, that's all.
I hate when I have a dumb a$$ attack, and mess something up.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_...rds=Lever+Knobs+&rh=n:16412791,k:Lever+Knobs+
http://www.mscdirect.com/browse/tn/...andles-Knobs/Knobs/Lever-Knobs?navid=12103967
I'll throw the levers in the vice and get them straight again, i may do something a bit different for the knobs. I imagine any old 1/4 20 knob from the hardware store will do.



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I like it, vintage infinitely variable shift on the fly mechanism lol.

Works a bit like the Mechanics Machine camelbacks from around 1890, those used a tapered sheve and a leather clad wheel along with a uniquely angled shaft driving the spindle through some bevel wheels.

Theres one in the area I would like to pick up but its missing the entire drivetrain and was converted to v belt at some point.

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I have a Mechanics Machine friction drive drill press. It's the small bench model. Only one I've ever heard of.

It was originally line shaft driven with fast/loose pulleys & the belt shifting fork which is still there in the picture.

I now have it mounted on a heavy wood base and driven with an electric motor mounted off to the side.

I believe these were America's first variable speed drill presses.
 

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I'll throw the levers in the vice and get them straight again, i may do something a bit different for the knobs. I imagine any old 1/4 20 knob from the hardware store will do.



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Just a thought, my solution to the handle problem - like them better than the small knobs. :confused:
 

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I have a Mechanics Machine friction drive drill press. It's the small bench model. Only one I've ever heard of.

It was originally line shaft driven with fast/loose pulleys & the belt shifting fork which is still there in the picture.

I now have it mounted on a heavy wood base and driven with an electric motor mounted off to the side.

I believe these were America's first variable speed drill presses.
I believe yours are the pictures that come up in searches, these dont seem to be common.

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Heres big brother, its not quite the same as the one im looking at. It seems heavier.

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And this is the bare column/quill thats for sale locally. It would be a project trying to replicate the original mechanism and I wouldnt want to settle for the refit. I was thinking of a simpler design using a sheeve on top with a wheel on the angled shaft, have the shaft in two pieces splined together for several inches of travel and at the base mount at a matching angle a beefy vintage motor to drive it directly.

Have the shaft/speed control attached to a foot pedal like the original and you got something in the spirit of the design but vastly simpler and unique.

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Just a thought, my solution to the handle problem - like them better than the small knobs. :confused:
But can you yank one of those out when you need a driver? Lol.

Thats a possibility, might use some older no longer usable drivers to stay with the machines era.

I like your custom hub also.

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But can you yank one of those out when you need a driver? Lol.

Thats a possibility, might use some older no longer usable drivers to stay with the machines era.

I like your custom hub also.

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The hub was a "necessity, after the PO butchered the handle, shown here as I started cutting it off. And no, can't use the screwdrivers, as I cut the shafts down by about 4". They are removable, however; held in by a setscrew. The hub is also held by setscrews.
 

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I believe yours are the pictures that come up in searches, these dont seem to be common.


Heres big brother, its not quite the same as the one im looking at. It seems heavier.


And this is the bare column/quill thats for sale locally. It would be a project trying to replicate the original mechanism and I wouldnt want to settle for the refit. I was thinking of a simpler design using a sheeve on top with a wheel on the angled shaft, have the shaft in two pieces splined together for several inches of travel and at the base mount at a matching angle a beefy vintage motor to drive it directly.

I was in contact with a guy in FL (?) a few years back that had one of the big ones like the top picture. His was the only big one I have heard of also.
There was discussion about these and other friction drive drill presses on Practical Machinist.

I wouldn't consider trying to put that bottom one back together as it was originally with all those missing parts and nothing to copy.

There is a drill press made by Albany that turns up from time to time that has a hemispherical friction drive.
And one by Knecht that uses 2 cones with a wheel in between.
 

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Buffalo with modifications

I got this old Buffalo drill press for free. Just had to pick it up, which is no small feat. It weighs a ton. It works great. Maybe some day I will restore it.
 

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That Buffalo is some sort of kitbash, the table is from something in an entirely different class lol.

I really like the counterweight system, might try something like that for my table.

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This is a Barnes Drill No. 0 that I picked up recently and am in the process of cleaning and painting. It has an interesting variable speed mechanism, a vertical disk and a horizontal leather covered disk. Speed is adjusted by moving the horizontal disk up or down on the vertical disk. I will eventually get the hang of adding images.

pmat
I have that drill press to and am interested in seeing your progress
Please post lots of pictures

Thanks
Don
 

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Show us your cool, "old" drill press

Jdc3735: The base could be from the Buffalo M15, which had no table and a crank-style with rack running through the head. The Buffalo M15 usually had Buffalo embossed on the front of the base, so it might not be that. Now I look at more closely I don't think it is a from an M15.

Your head is from a typical bench/standing model. The head raising mechanism appears to be shop-made, nicely done.

Overall a nice score!

Matthew A.



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pmat

I have that drill press to and am interested in seeing your progress

Please post lots of pictures



Thanks

Don



I will, the basic drill is in good shape. The problem is that the original flat belt system is gone, and I need to fabricate a decent looking motor drive. The drill came from a machine shop, and I don't doubt that the former owner was a decent machinest, but an awful welder! I pitched the the jerry rigged motor setup.




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Finally found a good vintage motor for my JC Penney's Premium Penncraft (actually a Delta Homecraft) drill press. The original owner has the rod for on/off switch and is sending it my way. I hope to get that hooked up. This motor replaces a generic modern Westinghouse motor that worked, but just wasn't the right one for this machine.

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