Show us your cool, "old" drill press
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RTM
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Hmm, I assumed that thing adjusted, guess that’s why I’m not the drill press expert around here. Thanks for clarifying.
Seagoer
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This is what I'm looking at.
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crguy
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OK, that picture helps clarify things. The piece below the knurled ring (with the chuck below) appears to be some sort of add on. The quill is all the way up it appears. So - it won't move down? Did you check the lock handle on the other side?Nope. The feed stop bracket is resting against the head casting with the thrust nut just below it.
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tombell572
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Here's two of mine that I haven't included here.
The first I've had at least 20 years, a high speed sensitive drill made by the Muelhmatt Division of Hamilton Tool Co. patented in 1924. Hamilton made several different models of D/P for small hole drilling, the speed range of this one is about 800-8000 RPM. Chuck capacity is from drill size "80" to 1/4". This drill needed nothing other than replacement of some Gits oil cups and refinish in its original black wrinkle paint.
The second was given to me by a friend who was retiring and closing down his welding shop about 10 years ago. It sat unused in a corner of his shop for many years and then continued sitting unused in mine until recently. This is a Cannedy-Otto sliding head floor drill, probably 1920-30's vintage. It needed 4 new bearings, japanning was flaking off so I removed the remnants with a needle scaler, then polishing of machined surfaces and repaint. Its a good drill, one I don't really need but a remembrance of my friend who died about 2 years ago.
Tom B.
The first I've had at least 20 years, a high speed sensitive drill made by the Muelhmatt Division of Hamilton Tool Co. patented in 1924. Hamilton made several different models of D/P for small hole drilling, the speed range of this one is about 800-8000 RPM. Chuck capacity is from drill size "80" to 1/4". This drill needed nothing other than replacement of some Gits oil cups and refinish in its original black wrinkle paint.
The second was given to me by a friend who was retiring and closing down his welding shop about 10 years ago. It sat unused in a corner of his shop for many years and then continued sitting unused in mine until recently. This is a Cannedy-Otto sliding head floor drill, probably 1920-30's vintage. It needed 4 new bearings, japanning was flaking off so I removed the remnants with a needle scaler, then polishing of machined surfaces and repaint. Its a good drill, one I don't really need but a remembrance of my friend who died about 2 years ago.
Tom B.
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crguy
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That Canedy Otto looks great. I have a Buffalo 16 with the sliding head and really like using it. It's so much easier to move the head rather than cranking the table up/down.
tombell572
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Thanks, crguy, this one was the first machine I restored in quite a few years. Cannedy Otto built a good product. Buffalos are also heavily built quality drills. My first machine was a Buffalo 15" bench drill, probably 1950's era that I bought in the 1970's. It now resides with my oldest son--we both love it.
Tom B.
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whateg01
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I guess I might as well add them here too. I have a ~1937 Craftsman 101.03580 and a ~1947 Walker Turner 1100 currently in use. Well, the WT is waiting on me to get another motor installed. I used a conduit corner for an electrical box to mount the switch on the Craftsman.
Outlawmws
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I like that better than the usual full duplex box.
I ran across this Atlas 64 at a garage sale and it kinda jumped in my truck. It’s a bit of a train wreck, missing the quill lock assembly, the depth gauge, the quill cap, one handle, and the tension spring cap. In addition, The resilient motor mounts are shot, the pinion gear has a galled tooth, most of the bearings are suspect. The Westinghouse 1/2 hp does seem to run ok, I’ve been told the presence of oil caps means it has bronze bushings instead of bearings, not sure on that. I dont know that this isnt a replacement motor as I haven’t seen one on an Atlas, more knowledgable people here are welcome to share. Choices are, collect the parts needed over time, part it out, or set the head aside for now and use the rest for a mag drill base by making a cap and flat to set on top of the column.
I did hog out some resilient motor mounts to fit the motor ends so that should be ok, i think the originals were actually part of the motor.
Some pictures.
I did hog out some resilient motor mounts to fit the motor ends so that should be ok, i think the originals were actually part of the motor.
Some pictures.
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That is a beautiful restorationHere is my recently finished Atlas 63 Drill Press.
I detailed the full restoration in by build thread, but figured it was worth showing the final product in this thread as well.
Cross Post - Build Thread:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...ess-restoration-resto-mod.489265/post-9603494
Before and After:
Well, auction score... I didn't really need this but the auction was close and this has been on my want list as an ideal drill press.
It's dusty and dirty but digging through the piles of junk I found the roller extension supports that go with the white bracket on the base of the column.
I think the paper drill next to it kept some from bidding as they were the same lot. I dropped the paper drill off at the local habitat Restore on the way home...
These are the auction pictures, I got it home, blew some of the dust off and plugged it in and it ran really smooth.
Speed adjustment works, but didn't go all the way to the slower settings, after oiling and cleaning I'll try again.
I also got this guy at the same sale, worried with the motor just sitting there, but that is the original Rockwell, with a replacement installed and running fine. Plan is to fix the original motor and get it back in place.
It's dusty and dirty but digging through the piles of junk I found the roller extension supports that go with the white bracket on the base of the column.
I think the paper drill next to it kept some from bidding as they were the same lot. I dropped the paper drill off at the local habitat Restore on the way home...
These are the auction pictures, I got it home, blew some of the dust off and plugged it in and it ran really smooth.
Speed adjustment works, but didn't go all the way to the slower settings, after oiling and cleaning I'll try again.
I also got this guy at the same sale, worried with the motor just sitting there, but that is the original Rockwell, with a replacement installed and running fine. Plan is to fix the original motor and get it back in place.
Craptain
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You didn't tell us how much, but regardless that's a great score. I've become a big fan of Rockwell Delta machinery and I am extremely jealous of the drill press.Well, auction score... I didn't really need this but the auction was close and this has been on my want list as an ideal drill press.
It's dusty and dirty but digging through the piles of junk I found the roller extension supports that go with the white bracket on the base of the column.
I think the paper drill next to it kept some from bidding as they were the same lot. I dropped the paper drill off at the local habitat Restore on the way home...
These are the auction pictures, I got it home, blew some of the dust off and plugged it in and it ran really smooth.
Speed adjustment works, but didn't go all the way to the slower settings, after oiling and cleaning I'll try again.
I also got this guy at the same sale, worried with the motor just sitting there, but that is the original Rockwell, with a replacement installed and running fine. Plan is to fix the original motor and get it back in place.
crguy
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Those 6 x 48 belt/disc sanders are great. I use mine frequently.Well, auction score... I didn't really need this but the auction was close and this has been on my want list as an ideal drill press.
It's dusty and dirty but digging through the piles of junk I found the roller extension supports that go with the white bracket on the base of the column.
I think the paper drill next to it kept some from bidding as they were the same lot. I dropped the paper drill off at the local habitat Restore on the way home...
These are the auction pictures, I got it home, blew some of the dust off and plugged it in and it ran really smooth.
Speed adjustment works, but didn't go all the way to the slower settings, after oiling and cleaning I'll try again.
I also got this guy at the same sale, worried with the motor just sitting there, but that is the original Rockwell, with a replacement installed and running fine. Plan is to fix the original motor and get it back in place.
whateg01
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How or how well? It uses a variable pitch pulley that is changed by the hand wheel. How well? They beat changing belts on a step pulley if you change speeds a lot.
Well.... it was really cheap:
Plus 20 % buyers premium.... so $114 for the sander and $96 for the drill press....
Outlawmws
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Yep, you ****
I’m old, its old, and I’m an addict.
I ran across this on EBay. Although it was in Vegas and I live mostly in Alaska, I have a second home there too. I made a deal with the seller and asked my Vegas neighbors to pick it up for me. Thats my story and I’m sticking with it. I finally got down here to Vegas and have gotten a first hand look at this 103.
Its missing the quill spring and knob but everything else is there. The bearings all need replacing and the cover hinge needs work. The motor is a Craftsman 115.5829 1/2 Hp.
I has a couple interesting things, a brass tag that reads, “Property of Cortland Equipment Lessors Incorporated” It has a Supreme Chuck no 5D, and the on/off switch is a interesting Allen Bradley and Co with a built in reset. The table is a tilt with dial. I can’t get the table separated from the mount, i think maybe its burred up from the side bolt. The handle under there is missing too.
I think the quill spring and knob will be the hardest to find, i can make a handle bolt for the table. There are the usual arcs of shame, i‘ll weld those up. I will take the parts an pieces i need to work on to Alaska and bring em back down the next trip.
I ran across this on EBay. Although it was in Vegas and I live mostly in Alaska, I have a second home there too. I made a deal with the seller and asked my Vegas neighbors to pick it up for me. Thats my story and I’m sticking with it. I finally got down here to Vegas and have gotten a first hand look at this 103.
Its missing the quill spring and knob but everything else is there. The bearings all need replacing and the cover hinge needs work. The motor is a Craftsman 115.5829 1/2 Hp.
I has a couple interesting things, a brass tag that reads, “Property of Cortland Equipment Lessors Incorporated” It has a Supreme Chuck no 5D, and the on/off switch is a interesting Allen Bradley and Co with a built in reset. The table is a tilt with dial. I can’t get the table separated from the mount, i think maybe its burred up from the side bolt. The handle under there is missing too.
I think the quill spring and knob will be the hardest to find, i can make a handle bolt for the table. There are the usual arcs of shame, i‘ll weld those up. I will take the parts an pieces i need to work on to Alaska and bring em back down the next trip.
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Its got style!
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tool_scrounge
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Duro Metal Products made these for Montgomery Wards.
Craptain
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I actually have a Duro/Wards dp undergoing restoration right now. Special one with the speed reduction pulleys. I was super impressed by the quality of it. I would rate it right up with my Atlas daily user.
tool_scrounge
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Wow. - I have never seen that version. You should post photos when you are done on vintagemachinery.org
I too agree with your observations about Duro - straightforward design with really high quality castings and parts. I liked it better than the late 1930s to early 1940s Atlas drill presses I have owned (No Zamak pot metal or tolerance problems).
Outlawmws
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That's not bad! What wire did you use?
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I used .030 Superarc with 75-25 gas Lincoln Le 31 MP welder set on F and 5. I had an old cracked and messed up Delta table to experiment on. I have threaded bigger !/2’’ through holes and filled with cut bolts before welding on some repairs, others like this i welded up in layers. I also hit every other hole or so and let cool then hit the ones between them. Grind and repeat till full not letting it get too hot. Actually works well and so far no worries. Finish sanding with fine/fine 3M sanding blocks and wd40.
I ran across a discussion on a welding site that talked about repairing these tables. Apparently there are cast iron and cast steel tables. I quote.
“As far as switch from iron to steel? As far as I know it occurred in the late '20s to early '30s with the better manufacturers (Atlas being one of them) and the switch back to iron was sometime in the 70's to 80's when the bean counters wrested production controls away from the engineers! It was an epic battle and much hollering and cursing transpired.”
By drilling in an existing hole on the table you can determine the make up. Powder is iron, curls is cast steel
hope this helps.
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crguy
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I'm surprised that casting didn't break.I picked up a Craftsman 150 which came with a bent motor pulley. Pictures speak for themselves As to how i fixed that.
I have found them to be fairly malleable if not too stretched. You certainly have to work slow and take small taps if using a flat punch. With the bearing spitter you are capturing the rim in the bowl of the splitter and slowly working it back. The pressure is evenly distributed which must help. This has worked for me but i may make a steel disc of the appropriate size to go on the top side if its bent worse. I certainly shared your concern on the first one but thought, if they bend like that then there must be some softness there. The rule is slow and softly and no pliers!
Outlawmws
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Color me impressed!
Thanks guys, I’ve gotten a ton of good info and help here so happy to be able share what I can! Im fortunate to have a lathe and mill so i cam make a lot of things i can’t find or are to costly. Heres a couple parts that were missing on a Delta 220.
