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Outlawmws

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"old"... Doesn't mean much! :evil: Old to my kids means barely broken in to me... To some "dirty" and "old" are synonymous... We won't even get into the misuse of "vintage" and "antique"...
 
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Not sure what qualifies as "vintage" but this one was discarded by the tool room that I worked in back in the mid 70s IIRC. I picked it up for free and just the other week did a restoration on it. It's a Wolf and was made in Denmark. The wheel on the left is a carborundum wheel that's used for sharpening tungsten TIG electrodes and I don't like to have a rest on it for that.

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Techie: that is definitely vintage. i might have opted to keep the old stand, but once i see the cool one painted orange i see why you changed. did you make that stand? if you want to post it on this vise grinder stand thread if you have time i bet others will like it too.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252799&highlight=vise+stands

your grinder restoration pictures were showing your work so well i saved them too. nice work and great save.

Outlaw: i'm old and you are vintage. or do we need to reverse that? :dunno:
 

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Not sure what qualifies as "vintage" but this one was discarded by the tool room that I worked in back in the mid 70s IIRC. I picked it up for free and just the other week did a restoration on it. It's a Wolf and was made in Denmark. The wheel on the left is a carborundum wheel that's used for sharpening tungsten TIG electrodes and I don't like to have a rest on it for that.

First, thats an excellent resto on the grinder. However that new base is fantastic! Love the use of plumbing fittings and the layout. Again superb work.

I "see" said the blind man to the deaf man as he picked up his hammer and saw.
 

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Techie: that is definitely vintage. i might have opted to keep the old stand, but once i see the cool one painted orange i see why you changed. did you make that stand? if you want to post it on this vise grinder stand thread if you have time i bet others will like it too.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252799&highlight=vise+stands

your grinder restoration pictures were showing your work so well i saved them too. nice work and great save.

Outlaw: i'm old and you are vintage. or do we need to reverse that? :dunno:
Thanks drivesitfar! I did make the stand and from what I can tell, the other one was a home built also. It always got on my nerves though since the bottom wasn't very flat and it tended to walk around the shop. Easier to build a new one than level off the other one.:lol_hitti

First, thats an excellent resto on the grinder. However that new base is fantastic! Love the use of plumbing fittings and the layout. Again superb work.

I "see" said the blind man to the deaf man as he picked up his hammer and saw.
Thanks Pupuhd! Really appreciate the compliments guys.:thumbup:
 

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Hi guys,

I posted this in the general tool forum, but Drivesitfar correctly noted this should go here too. I restored an older Black and Decker 6" - 1/3 HP / 4.5 amp grinder. New bearings, electrolysis on the body and full repaint, and rewired. Hope you like it, she was working good before and even better now:

http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=320601

I put it on the scale, and she's 42.5 lbs.

Here are a few more pics:

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Outlawmws

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Not sure what qualifies as "vintage" but this one was discarded by the tool room that I worked in back in the mid 70s IIRC. I picked it up for free and just the other week did a restoration on it. It's a Wolf and was made in Denmark. The wheel on the left is a carborundum wheel that's used for sharpening tungsten TIG electrodes and I don't like to have a rest on it for that.

Before:
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I realize that the stand is not everyone's cup of tea but...
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Techie, Nice restore! The stand is cool looking, I hope it's stable! but I am surprised you dropped the old stand... Was there an issue with it?
 

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Outlaw: i'm old and you are vintage. or do we need to reverse that? :dunno:

Drives you are as old as you feel, or allow yourself to feel...

Just like some of my tools. Well maintained, some are in their second century of service...

So IMO I'm neither old, nor vintage, and certainly not antique! (Despite any battle damage over the years)
 

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Larry: love that old grinder and thanks for posting it here where it is in good company. if you have time read through a few pages and your smallish grinder might need a few friends to visit your garage in the near future.

OUTLAW & ALL: maybe my new sign my wife bought me a few weeks ago for my birthday is somewhat related to your last post and this thread.

cheers all
 

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Techie, Nice restore! The stand is cool looking, I hope it's stable! but I am surprised you dropped the old stand... Was there an issue with it?

Thanks Outlawmws, the old stand wasn't very stable at all. The bottom was too narrow and it was warped a bit. I might repurpose it eventually. The new stand has a lot larger foot print and being on three feet, it's pretty stable.
 

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Techie, there is one loop on your stand that doesn't seem possible. did you cut and weld one pipe? Maybe the smaller cross strut?
 

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Techie I love the stand! The water valve is a nice touch. Great work on the grinder as well. What color is that blue?
Thanks man! The blue is Tremclad Royal Blue.

Techie, there is one loop on your stand that doesn't seem possible. did you cut and weld one pipe? Maybe the smaller cross strut?

:thumbup: You nailed it and are only the second person to notice that. I put the smaller 3/4" pipe in, in two pieces and then welded and ground it clean.
 

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i picked up this curtis a few years back from a yard sale for $25. it included the heavy wooden
cart with steel wheels. it came out of the remington arms factory so it's seen some use. the last inspection tag on it is from 1969. has a partially home made (maybe factory made in this case?) 2x54 belt sander on it. it appears to take a 7"stone on the other side.

problem is the tag has been all but destroyed. the only things i can make out are 115/230 volt and that it has a doerr ball bearing motor. does anyone have additional information on this one? i googled curtis and came up with nothing but coffee grinders.

it works great and will grind hardened steel down to a nub like it was nothing. over a 2 minute wind down until the switch kicks out then for maybe another 20 seconds.
 

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Cat: i know Doerr is part of the name BAL(DOR) so it has a great chance of being a quality grinder and looks pretty stout. how does it run? sometimes you can get an idea about the HP and RPM by the size of the wheels so what size are they? also after you turn it off how long does it take to stop?
 

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Cat: I don't believe it is a homemade attachment. I have one very similar, mine has a 2"x48" belt on it. I have not been able to find any information on it either.
 

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Cat: I don't believe it is a homemade attachment. I have one very similar, mine has a 2"x48" belt on it. I have not been able to find any information on it either.

that's it. the upright looks exactly the same. top wheel too. mine has home made guards on the top and side. looks like yours had some field modifications too.

where the "c" clamp is on yours, mine has two hex bolts 180 degrees from each other.

my top wheel was seized due to old grease. in order to get it apart i had to take the collar off the upright shaft. i'll warn you, avoid that if you can :) what ever that roll pin is made of is so hard, i tried punches, pressing, drilling and nothing would touch it. i ended up beating it until the pin snapped. any idea why the top wheel needs to swivel a few degrees?

any chance yours still has a legible tag? i would like to have that info for future reference.
 

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Cat: i know Doerr is part of the name BAL(DOR) so it has a great chance of being a quality grinder and looks pretty stout. how does it run? sometimes you can get an idea about the HP and RPM by the size of the wheels so what size are they? also after you turn it off how long does it take to stop?

it has a 7" grinding wheel on one side and i think a 7 1/2 rubber wheel on the other.

it runs great but i've noticed lately a slight squeak as it winds down after the capacitor shuts down. it seems to be coming from the motor itself. corrosion on the stator maybe?

i haven't timed it but i would say it winds down well over 2 minutes before the internal switch clicks, then maybe another 20 seconds (this is when i notice the squeak).

i bought a newer baldor from an estate sale for $40 and i agree it is a good motor. i hope to make this newer one into a buffer (if i can get the jewlers arbors to come off)
 

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CAT: the tag on mine is almost illegible as well, I could barely make out the Curtis on mine. Mine came from the Cessna factory in Wichita. I believe the top wheel swiveling is just a byproduct of the way the tracking works, on mine you loosen the black knob and it will pivot the top wheel. I have the original guard for mine, I'll have to see if i can dig it out.
 
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the upright is actually a pipe within a pipe.underneath that collar there is a notch that allows pivoting. i thought about tracking but it seemed excessive to me at approximately 20 degrees.

interesting that they both came from large factories.
 

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Anyone have a good source of info on Walker Turner grinders? Eyeing one up on CL that's missing a guard and the shields. Probably late 40's, which would match my lathe perfectly.
 

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Looking for a 3/4-1hp vintage grinder for grinding, wire wheeling and maybe polishing, mainly the first two... Anyway I was looking at the block motor craftsman but the price is crazy to an extent. Is there other models or brands I should be looking at? I know there are other vintage brands that are strong like the blocks...

Also maybe the 3/4-1hp is a bit too much power for a Harry home owner's shop?
 

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MR: I have 3/4 HP Baldor buffer (more expensive than blocks) and a 1/2 HP Baldor has plenty of power. Dayton (made in USA), Black & Decker, Stanley, older Craftsmans, and many others are excellent grinders and probably can be found in your price range.

I haven't went back and read this thread in a long long time, but I did originally before I started posting on it and if you discount the big grinders that need 3 phase power you will find many other choices than I've just mentioned. those I mentioned are just the ones I own. also JET made great grinders in the late 60's early 70's and they are still in business. the way the new grinders are labeled the old grinders are more powerful with the same HP listed on them as their new counterparts in most cases.

good luck
 

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Looking for a 3/4-1hp vintage grinder for grinding, wire wheeling and maybe polishing, mainly the first two... Anyway I was looking at the block motor craftsman but the price is crazy to an extent. Is there other models or brands I should be looking at? I know there are other vintage brands that are strong like the blocks...

Also maybe the 3/4-1hp is a bit too much power for a Harry home owner's shop?

Mr.

Here is my perspective as a Harry homeowner :D with 3 Craftsman block grinders (1/2hp split phase, a 1/2hp cap start, and a 3/4hp cap start) and an old Doerr 1/4hp. They all do what I need them to do. With wire brushing, the 1/4hp Doerr bogs down fairly easily, but still does the job if I take my time. When I upgraded to a belt grinding attachment, the 1/2hp split phase didn't have quite enough "oomph" on start up, but did fine once it got going. The 1/2hp cap start and 3/4hp cap starts were fine. However, a wire wheel on the 8" 3/4hp can be a bit aggressive - it can pit the metal if I push too hard. So, it all depends what you plan on doing and how quickly you need to do it.

Hope that helps.
 

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This the most vintage that I can get. A black and decker 5 inch type 1 bench grinder, not really close to a craftsman block grinder, but this will do for my home use.
 

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Here's an antique monster grinder in good shape, I saw at an auction preview. No motor. Flat belt driven from a ceiling shaft. Couldn't find a name. However interesting.
 

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Here's a B & W film from the mid-60's about axe making, the old fashioned way.

Interesting in it's own right, but there is vintage grinder content to top it off.

 
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