Show us your woodworking dust collection systems

[pharper]

Thanks!

 

[Toolfool]

First time seeing this thread. I'll add a few pics of my ClearVue system.
Ran all my 6" PVC , electrical conduits , and airline conduits in the ground before pouring the slab. LOTS of planning. I hate all the overhead stuff collecting dust and spiderwebs, not to mention obstructing material movement. An added bonus is that the PVC is grounded, no static build-up. With a Powermatic air filter hanging from the ceiling, I may live a couple of years longer.

 

[turbowoodworker]

Thanks for posting. Great pics. I was not organized enough to plan for in ground vac system even though I had lots of time. I feared that I would do it then need to move the TS 3 ft over.

Question, how does your miter dust hood work? I made one out of a large plastic tote with a 5" collector and still don't catch it all. And I still have to clear the corners by hand or with a shop vac once a week.

 

[turbowoodworker]

Anyone know much about the Delata filters? I have a relatively new one on the ceiling and the built in 5 amp breaker keeps popping after only a few seconds of run, even before the motor is up to speed.It is in tandem with a similar Jet on a dedicated 20 amp line. I'm betting it has to do with the darn expensive circuit board, but??
Any suggestions?

 

[Toolfool]

Thanks for posting. Great pics. I was not organized enough to plan for in ground vac system even though I had lots of time. I feared that I would do it then need to move the TS 3 ft over.

Question, how does your miter dust hood work? I made one out of a large plastic tote with a 5" collector and still don't catch it all. And I still have to clear the corners by hand or with a shop vac once a week.

The dust hood for the 10" saw works great. The hood for the 12" slide works OK, but I also have some corner build-up. But the dust isn't blowing in my face , and after a cut I can actually see the very fine dust being sucked into the hood.

 

[turbowoodworker]

Yah, that is what I get from mine. It works pretty well, but I have never seen a hood that worked perfectly. Mine is actually about version five. Thanks.

 

[FTWingRiders]

Thought I'd share mine. I went with the Penn State Ind premium spiral, I cheated, told them the layout and let them design it. Works well, but my biggest problem is the table saw. I need an overhead collector, it just spits sawdust right at me.











I do wish I had a bigger drum, the 35 gal drum can fill up fast if I'm running a lot thru the planer. BTW.. these were right after I finished it.. this is what it looks like at this moment..I'm adding a second floor in the backbay for storage, so I had to cram everything in here, plus I've been building a halloween display, and need to clean up that mess.LOL!! Its killing me at the moment, hopefully I can start putting things in their place in another week or so.

 

[turbowoodworker]

Nice setup FT. Thanks for posting. Penn State is good stuff.

Your statement about the drum and planer volume reminded me of my first experience after setting up my DC at my previous house.

Not knowing how fast the drum would fill, I checked twice a day and there wasn't much in it. Then I started planing. I forgot to check as I got in the rhythm of pushing boards over and over. Then I suddenly realized I was surrounded by a giant dust cloud. WTF!

I looked over and the output flex tube to the pleated filter cannister had blown off and was spewing dust everywhere. The over flowing drum had backed into the cyclone and the filter. Bam! Presto! A garage full of dust, chips, and all.

What a mess.

Now I check every time I power up the DC.

 

[Toolfool]

FT, nice shop. Looks like a Grizzly truckload sale.

 

[Gizmosity]

Thought I'd share mine. I went with the Penn State Ind premium spiral, I cheated, told them the layout and let them design it. Works well, but my biggest problem is the table saw. I need an overhead collector, it just spits sawdust right at me.

Three things here:

First: Nice space. Well thought out.

Second: care to provide any opinions on what looks like a Grizzly 12" surface sander in your first pic?

Third: For the tablesaw spitting sawdust, if an over arm collector isn't in your plan for your tablesaw, I've seen and used saws where folks have drilled a series of holes in the front fence rail, plugged one end up and connected dust collection to the other end. It worked well.

 

[FTWingRiders]

Nice setup FT. Thanks for posting. Penn State is good stuff.

Your statement about the drum and planer volume reminded me of my first experience after setting up my DC at my previous house.

Not knowing how fast the drum would fill, I checked twice a day and there wasn't much in it. Then I started planing. I forgot to check as I got in the rhythm of pushing boards over and over. Then I suddenly realized I was surrounded by a giant dust cloud. WTF!

I looked over and the output flex tube to the pleated filter cannister had blown off and was spewing dust everywhere. The over flowing drum had backed into the cyclone and the filter. Bam! Presto! A garage full of dust, chips, and all.

What a mess.

Now I check every time I power up the DC.

HAHA!! I had the same experience... First time really using the planer, and I was in the zone, then suddenly I see I've lost all suction. The whole filter canister was jammed and it took me an hour to clean everything out..

Hmm.. I think I should check the drum next time I'm out there...lol!

 

[FTWingRiders]

FT, nice shop. Looks like a Grizzly truckload sale.

Thanks! Yeah, When I was given the green light from my wife to outfit the shop, I looked at the options, and felt Grizzly gave me the best quality for the dollar. So I figured why mess around and went ahead a ordered a truck load. It felt like Christmas when the truck arrived. I'm just a weekend woodworker, and just make some decent looking firewood... I hope someday to make some fancy firewood... LOL! I have two older boys who went to tech school for cabinetry, so it's a place they can come over and we can hangout together. I'm 8 years to retirement, and I'm stoked to have my shop to enjoy in my next phase of life.

 

[rrich1]

Jealous of these shops. I use one side of my garage when I need it. Otherwise I push everything into my 6x10 ft area.

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[rharman]

Anyone done a simple setup with and shop vac and PVC (1-1/2" or 2")? That's my plan to keep the vac tucked away under my bench but have an easy connect on the other side of the garage. Going to use the grey stuff so I can do sweeps instead of ells for the corners.

 

[code4pay]

Anyone done a simple setup with and shop vac and PVC (1-1/2" or 2")? That's my plan to keep the vac tucked away under my bench but have an easy connect on the other side of the garage. Going to use the grey stuff so I can do sweeps instead of ells for the corners.

Here's mine
Used for all the machines but the jointer and planer, and the table saw I use the vacuum for the top and the dust collector for the cabinet.
My shopvac is a Kirby mounted upside down on a cyclone style bucket.

 

[TerryH]

Thanks! Yeah, When I was given the green light from my wife to outfit the shop, I looked at the options, and felt Grizzly gave me the best quality for the dollar. So I figured why mess around and went ahead a ordered a truck load. It felt like Christmas when the truck arrived. I'm just a weekend woodworker, and just make some decent looking firewood... I hope someday to make some fancy firewood... LOL! I have two older boys who went to tech school for cabinetry, so it's a place they can come over and we can hangout together. I'm 8 years to retirement, and I'm stoked to have my shop to enjoy in my next phase of life.

Beautiful setup and beautiful shop!! I have a ton of Grizzly in my shop and it has performed great for many years. Congrats!!

 

[NedNorton]

FTWingRiders is a tough act to follow, for sure. His DC system inspired me to upgrade to spiral pipe. Here is mine.


Penn State 3hp cyclone...


Control box...
When the zone is active the blue indicator goes on. It also has a delay relay on shutdown to clear the lines.


The guts..


The table saw, planer and jointer have a power sensing relay that activates the system when a tool is turned on plus a push button.


I built this box with a plug that also has a power sensing relay so when you turn a sander on the DC kicks on.


The FTWingRiders inspired spiral pipe.


It was a super fun project. And I'm with the rest of the folks here... The drum I have is too small and fills up quick when running the planner.

Cheers,
Chris

 

[Duker]

Ok Chris...I am in the midst of designing my dust collection system ( just had my Oneida dust collector delivered) and I see some custom relays and controls! You have to give us some scoop on the those!


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[oday19]

Hi,
I'm a newbie to the forum, have read a few links, but haven't found the answer to my question. I bought a HF dust collector last week, assembled it and am having second thoughts about using it as designed. Specifically, I'd like to permanently mount the impeller on the wall of my shop and directly vent it outside (no neighbors with 1/4 mile; my house 400 feet away) and eliminate both bags. If it's going outside into my fields, why would I even need the bags. Make-up air is no problem since the building is very
drafty. Any thoughts about what I'm missing? Many thanks!
Scott in Maryland.

 

[TerryH]

Hi,
I'm a newbie to the forum, have read a few links, but haven't found the answer to my question. I bought a HF dust collector last week, assembled it and am having second thoughts about using it as designed. Specifically, I'd like to permanently mount the impeller on the wall of my shop and directly vent it outside (no neighbors with 1/4 mile; my house 400 feet away) and eliminate both bags. If it's going outside into my fields, why would I even need the bags. Make-up air is no problem since the building is very
drafty. Any thoughts about what I'm missing? Many thanks!
Scott in Maryland.

It will work but I have a word of caution. The back pressure of the bags help to maintain safe amp draw levels on the motor. Without that buffer it is likely that the motor may well exceed what it can take and live. Suggest that you monitor the amp draw to make sure that you are in a safe range.

 

[FTWingRiders]

FTWingRiders is a tough act to follow, for sure. His DC system inspired me to upgrade to spiral pipe. Here is mine.


Penn State 3hp cyclone...


Control box...
It when the zone is active the blue indicator goes on. It also has a delay relay on shutdown to clear the lines.


The guts..


The table saw, planer and jointer have a power sensing relay that activates the system when a tool is turned on plus a push button.


I built this box with a plug that also has a power sensing relay so when you turn a sander on the DC kicks on.


The FTWingRiders inspired spiral pipe.


It was a super fun project. And I'm with the rest of the folks here... The drum I have is too small and fills up quick when rumbaing the planner.

Cheers,
Chris

Chris..Thats awesome!! Sorry I missed it back in December, I think you win! What a great shop! Love that spiral pipe, and that relay system is the bomb! Thats one part I hate.. I have a remote I can carry, (which I don't, and have to look for), but then I've forgotten to close a gate somewhere and need to retrace my steps..grr..

Now that its a few months gone by, how do you like it, anything you'd do different? I have to ask, where did you get it? Thats definitely on my to-do list now!

 

[oday19]

Thanks for a tip I didn't consider.

 

[NedNorton]

Chris..Thats awesome!! Sorry I missed it back in December, I think you win! What a great shop! Love that spiral pipe, and that relay system is the bomb! Thats one part I hate.. I have a remote I can carry, (which I don't, and have to look for), but then I've forgotten to close a gate somewhere and need to retrace my steps..grr..

Now that its a few months gone by, how do you like it, anything you'd do different? I have to ask, where did you get it? Thats definitely on my to-do list now!

FTWingRiders, I'm pretty happy with it. I do want to replace the filter bag with actual filters and a catch can, more for space than anything else. Also, I have been thinking of a way to add air cylinders to the gates so they are automatic when you turn on a tool. That would be the cats @$$ in my opinion and truly make it a simple system from the user perspective. But like so many other "want" shop projects, it will have to wait until time permits. The power sensing relays were something that was on my must have list. I had a similar system with the remote and it was always somewhere other than in my apron. This makes it more "Chris" proof.

Cheers,
Chris

 

[slodat]

Just fired up my Clearvue cyclone up last night for the first time. Next up is PLC controlled fully automated blast gates.

 

[FTWingRiders]

^^^thats sweet!!!^^^

Make sure you post pics of your blast gate when they're done.

 

[slodat]

^^^thats sweet!!!^^^

Make sure you post pics of your blast gate when they're done.

This is a video I made of the pneumatic gates being controlled by the PLC when I bench tested the idea. Still lots to do to get it all up and running. I'll post it all in my shop thread.

 

[Duker]

Ok....you guys are killing me...... first I am trying to figure out Chris' wiring job and now you throw out a system operating on a programmable logic controller (and I only knew that because I used to deliver them to Ford and GM in a summer job.) The only code I write are trading algorithms which has almost nothing in common with setting up and programming a PLC.

Is there a "Dust Collection System for Dummies" manual/book/decoder ring out there? In all seriousness, these are great systems guys and thanks for posting. You guys keep setting the bar higher and higher!


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[jake00]

My little one is 20hp. Big one is 60

 

[Duker]

My little one is 20hp. Big one is 60

Now your just bragging.....

 

[jake00]

Now your just bragging.....

Well yeah, Lots of posts showing off badass cars, badass took collections, bad *** pole barns......

I've got badass dust collectors

 

[slodat]

Starting to put the ducting together and needed another 6" gate. There are two main branches in the system and these two 6" gates isolate the respective main branches. The way it works out one branch is Bay 2 where the CNC router, planet and jointer live. The other is Bay 3, the woodshop, with the table saw, bandsaws and all of the router tables. For now I want to get these two 6" gates installed in the ducting so I can continue with the ducting. I'm happy with the way the gates are going together. The 4" gates will be made the same way.





These cast aluminum dust gates don't fit the 6" S&D very well. I came up with a way to make it work. I slide the 6" pipe onto the gate and then use a sectioned piece of pipe as a key to wedge into the gap. Two flange head screws hold it all together. Looks like it will do the trick. I have some of Clearvue's 6" gates for non-automated use.

 

[jlenander]

No drop for the Super 11?

 

[slodat]

Not sure why I didn't try this before.. Clearvue makes a PETG (plastic the cyclone is made of) blast gate that fits the OD of 6" S&D perfectly. And, I have several. So, I did this..




Starting to get a plan together on how to run the ducting. I'm hoping to balance not adding excessive restrictions in the systems with something that is at least a little aesthetically pleasing..

First machine to get connected will be the router. Feeling good about the way this is coming together..


This is the ceiling mounted pipe support I came up with.





CNC area is starting to take shape. Used it a lot today. Lots of learning the hard way today, too.



Continued working on the ducting in the woodshop.. it's coming along. Please excuse the mess..


Won't be long and I'll get started on the automation..

 

[guy48065]

Please excuse the mess...

LOL...on my best day my shop isn't that neat.

 

[TerryH]

LOL...on my best day my shop isn't that neat.

Those goofy clean shop people. There is something wrong with those guys.

 

[slodat]

Dust collection system has grown and evolved with the shop. Fully automated. Turn on a machine and the cyclone starts if it’s not already running, associated blast gate opens and closes when tool is turned off. Completely transparent to the user.

I bought this disc sander a few years ago. I put together the pile of parts and finally got it all completed today. 20” 3 phase disc sander with single phase input power, braking and full automated dust collection.



Video of it running. I’m getting zero dust out of it. Very happy!!

 

[FTWingRiders]

Dust collection system has grown and evolved with the shop. Fully automated. Turn on a machine and the cyclone starts if it’s not already running, associated blast gate opens and closes when tool is turned off. Completely transparent to the user.

I bought this disc sander a few years ago. I put together the pile of parts and finally got it all completed today. 20” 3 phase disc sander with single phase input power, braking and full automated dust collection.



Video of it running. I’m getting zero dust out of it. Very happy!!

Man that all came out sweet! Thats a serious disc sander. The shop looks great,nice and bright and the custom pipe holders are perfect. Love that bench. I'm still so jealous of the automatic gates.. still something I haven't tackled as I have zero skill at programming any kind of custom set up. I see the iVac on rockler, not not sold on it. I need to contact them with some questions I have.

Also what is the air system you have? Looks clean and neat.

 

[slodat]

Man that all came out sweet! Thats a serious disc sander. The shop looks great,nice and bright and the custom pipe holders are perfect. Love that bench. I'm still so jealous of the automatic gates.. still something I haven't tackled as I have zero skill at programming any kind of custom set up. I see the iVac on rockler, not not sold on it. I need to contact them with some questions I have.

Also what is the air system you have? Looks clean and neat.

The iVac stuff looked a little on the flimsy side when I looked at it. My system wasn't cheap, but it was off the shelf parts and in the big scheme of things well worth the expense.

My air system.

 

[turbowoodworker]

Really nice job on putting that system together. Thanks for posting.
Rick

 

[FTWingRiders]

Thanks for the link to your air system.. never saw your thread before. Thats my issue wth the iVac also.. looks pretty cheaply made and I question is reliability.


After a few years with mine, there were a few things that needed changing. As it was my first real try at setting up a shop, I tried to plan it out, but knowing once I used it for a while, it might need a bit of a redo. I was able to reuse a lot of fittings, but I ended needing a few.. I originally bought it all from Penn State Industries, but they don't carry the pipe or fittings anymore.. Luckily Rockler had what I needed to keep it all uniform.

One thing that I hated was the table saw. Most of the sawdust ended up on me, or all over the floor. I finally bought an overhead DC hood, went with the PSI kit. I liked I could mount to the ceiling. It has made a world of difference.



I was able to rework my planer drop into the drop for the overhead. The planer gets moved frequently, so I only connect it when I need it, and the damn drop was always in the way.. I hit my head on it enough to really hate it.



I aslo redid my sanders, the oscillating is now on a shelf on the desk I made for that space, so I moved the triple over to the middle, which I'll probably redo into just a double blast gate, but I had it so I used it.. and now just have two blast gates by the sanders now.

before:




again, the drum sander gets moved around some so I only connect it when needed.

I still need to correct the miter station. I bought a mikita, which is a great saw, but I had to connect it directly to a vacuum thru a dust deputy as the hood by itself was just not cutting it. I plug them into the i-socket tool/vac switch.. Its better, but not perfect by a long shot.





I also bought a Mikita 12 gal extract vac to use with my track saw, router, and other hand tools. Scooby approved, as its a LOT quieter than any other vac I have by far.



I've already noticed a reduction of dust particles flying around as I'm working on something, which mean I'm breathing less in. Still need to address a few things, as in automatic gates, but its an improvement.