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The other side isn’t much more help - just “Made in USA”FDB4721A-BE13-4AFF-9B6B-5605890E28BD.jpegAnother weirdness about it: there is no adjustment bolt, but more importantly, no threads inside the hollow of the handle. I was going to try tapping it to accept a typical Petersen adjustment bolt.
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EDIT - oops, sorry! I see from the others, there is a missing insert that is threaded. Not so weird on that point, then.
This version with the model number on the bottom jaw first appeared in the 1977-78 catalog, and continued until at least 1995. I remember reading on the Progress is Fine blog about Parker and how they got bought by Stanley in the 1980s and you'll see Stanley versions of these as well, so I guess they were supplied by Stanley after that. As for the finish, the catalogs say nickel plated, and my pair were dull like yours but after some chrome polish they shined right up.
 
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I looked through the Duro catalogs available online from prewar to postwar and i didn’t see where Duro was offering any Vise Grip type plier. They did offer one much later and that one didn’t resemble Lesser Son’s Craftsman. I‘m not sure what to think at this point.
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^ I think d42jeep's last example is clearly Parker - the logo more resembles "I" than the "DC in a circle", and the profile of the piece is different than the Indestro shown in the catalog image.

The finish on the Indestro was more like 1970s-1980s production Petersen Vise-Grip - shiny but not polished - and not a smooth surface, but more "grainy".
 

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Sorry. I was referring to LesserSon's. Essentially, I think Mintgrun solved this even though he doesn't think he did. I think LesserSon's is the same tool made in the same era by Parker and the deep way the Circle-I was stamped is only fooling us into thinking it looks like a Circle-DC, which is by all other evidence anachronistic (wartime-ish) and unfounded (they didn't make them) and unprecedented (codes, not OEM logos). In short, seeing stigmata in oatmeal. I could be wrong. I could be overstating. I am on my third bottle of Mad Elf and one tall glass of Gregg Nog. And yes I know what time it is on the Beast Coast. :)
 
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Private Lugnutz said:
"... LesserSon's is the same tool made in the same era by Parker and the deep way the Circle-I was stamped is only fooling us into thinking it looks like a Circle-DC, which is by all other evidence anachronistic (wartime-ish) and unfounded (they didn't make them) and unprecedented (codes, not OEM logos). In short, seeing stigmata in oatmeal...."

Sloppy stampings notwithstanding, I have to agree with you.
Judge Judy often said "If it doesn't make sense, it can't be true."

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Some Indestro out of the cleaning pile: Hex rat and a 9/16 socket, this is the only one I've found with the D shaped stamps. The rest of the wrenches have the Indestro stamp up if they have one. The ones with no stamp are unlabeled but I'm assuming Indestro due to the shape of the inset. The weird little extension is probably not Indestro but I found it with the hex rat from what I remember.

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Some Indestro out of the cleaning pile: Hex rat and a 9/16 socket, this is the only one I've found with the D shaped stamps. The rest of the wrenches have the Indestro stamp up if they have one. The ones with no stamp are unlabeled but I'm assuming Indestro due to the shape of the inset. The weird little extension is probably not Indestro but I found it with the hex rat from what I remember.

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I think the little socket with the square sticking out is for use on pipe plugs with a recessed square, commonly used in transmissions and differentials. I have run across several in different sizes.
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The knurling on the item in post #2054 does not appear to be as deeply incised as your sample. :headscrat:

Now I'm wondering if d42jeep has any examples in his Duro stuff. I know I have nothing in the way of a square drain plug socket.
 
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Here's a closer look at mine. The knurling seems to be a series of dots, I don't see much cross hatching going on. I also apologize for the lack of focus, my phone camera is not up to the task.

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The knurling was the first thing I pointed out, but, as I said, it could be early. The reason I said Hinsdale is because I don't recall seeing a drain plug socket like this from any other mfgr, including Duro or Indestro, here or AA or in catalogs. Not from any of the majors (i.e., Walden, Blackhawk). Not Bog. Not RAY. Etc. Williams made a whole set, and I have a BSPCo. But OTG's example is the first one I recall seeing in a Duro kit. Does anyone have a cat reference?

Edit: I'm curious if OTG's, Don's and saukit's unmarked examples have a little ****** dead center on top of the drive stud? It's a manufacturing artifact that all of my Hinsdale logo examples have.

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Looks like 2 of them in this duro set. 1/2 and 5/8, there is a little bump in the center of the square end.20211129_062318.jpg
 

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Nice. Thanks. That machining nub is too common to be a distinguisher. And yeah, my recollection is terrible. Jock found one a few years ago that he ID'd as Duro, too.

 

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I don't have a dog in this fight, but I see a difference in the knurling. Leaving aside saukit's little dots, Lugz's Hinsdales have the diamond portion raised, as would happen if the knurling process impressed the straight lines, while OTG's have the striaght lines raised from impressing the diamonds.
 

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Agreed. If you click on Jock's link, he pointed out the same thing. I think Saukit's socket was knurled like the Duro (the spaces are indented, not the lines), but not with diagonal lines. It is cross-hatched, but square, like a window or door screen pattern, instead.
 

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These types of sets seem to have been available in new britain, hinsdale , duro indestro, sk, Fulton, Brazil. I suspect the common link is the machines/process used to make them. The variations in knurling aside, they are all very similar
 

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The nub on the male square end is indeed a manufacturing artifact. It was left when the parting tool cut the piece off the bar that had been turned to diameter, length, and probably knurled. It appears that the square was machined either in the same operation or in a later operation.

In order to get the female drive square, the blank may have been a forging that was long enough to provide a place to hold the blank while it was machined, then parted off. That would make more sense than machining bar stock before broaching the female drive.
 

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Indestro 2553 magnetic pick-up tool (patent 3582123)
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Indestro 2820-1 1/4" drive Flexible Driver (driver handle only)

After reviewing the company's catalog and talking with Debbie on the phone at SE Tools in Lapeer, Michigan yesterday morning, I am fairly sure that Indestro was outsourcing both of these items from SE Tools.
The company's owner is on vacation this week, so I'm waiting for his confirmation (if and when it ever arrives.)
In the meantime, because of some points mentioned during the phone call yesterday, I'd put money on SE Tools being OEM on these items not only for Indestro, but many other tool sellers as well, including some that drive around in large white panel trucks.

The 2553 magnetic pick-up tool is pretty self-explanatory, and we probably all own some variant. Amazingly, that little unit still picks up nuts and bolts and sockets after banging around in my tool box for 50 years.

The 2820 "Flexible Driver" may look familiar to some. They were also marketed under various brand names, including one sold out of large white panel trucks.
Currently I have the attachments 2820-2, 2820-3, 2820-4, but I'm missing the 2820-5, should any of you just happen to have one laying about that is currently not in use or needed.

As an odd coincidence, somebody just listed one of these this morning on Ebay for $24 + shipping. I wonder if he'll get that. I didn't pay anywhere near that for mine, and I bought it when there were still Delco point-triggered distributors and Rochester Quadrajets on the road and there was actually a practical use for this gizmo. ;)

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While digging around I found another Indestro 2553 magnetic pick-up tool and a small pocket inspection mirror which I'm guessing I bought branded as K-D as I don't find it in the Indestro catalog.
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and I found an empty pouch for an Indestro 198 12-pc SAE hex key set
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A conversation in another thread led to my acquiring full sets of both the Indestro Clutch-Head Screwdrivers and 3/8" drive Clutch-Head Bits.
To keep them all together, I asked my girlfriend if she could make me a roll-up pouch for them. She took a couple pairs of my old work pants home with her and sent me the photos a few minutes ago.

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Pouch for Indestro Clutch-Head Screwdrivers and 3/8" drive Clutch-Head Bits
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Pouch for Indestro Clutch-Head Screwdrivers and 3/8" drive Clutch-Head Bits

I wasn't really expecting a work of art, but she's pretty good with that Bernina of hers.

You can't see the tools when they're each inserted into their own little pocket, but that was by design so they don't get lost. I'll have to
shoot photos of the tools by themselves when I get them back.

Here are all the "Clutch Head" Screwdrivers and Bits in the 1971 Indestro Catalog No. 55:
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