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neophyte

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Given the price of Snap-0n tools and the collections some guys show here, I think some have their paychecks direct deposited with Snap-On. Hopefully they do not have to visit the local food banks and live in a cabinet!

I was curious. I just looked up Snap-On is in the S&P500. I do not think many, or any other automotive tool manufacturers are. So you know they are doing something well with respect to making money!

Given American propensity for buying the cheapest stuff regardless of where they are made, it is amazing that they can convince enough people that quality tools are worth top dollar and sell enough to be so big and make enough money to be on the S&P500. It seems contrary to our present cultural patterns. I wish more Americans were open to paying a bit more to buy domestic. But that seems like a mostly lost cause for years now. So Snap-On is a very unusual outlier.
Stanley tools is a component of the S&P 500 as well, and while the “Stanley” brand isn’t necessarily “automotive” “MAC” is, and maybe “Proto”, and “Facom” and maybe dome other Stanley Black & Decker components like Dewalt, and even the hardware divisions.
 

rword

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Matco Thursday. Grabbed a fixed 3/8” ratchet and some flexible hooks. The Eighty8s are great ratchets. I own a ton now and they are easily my favorites. The hooks are for Jeep work because I can’t ever get a weekend free from my wife’s Jeep.

On a side note, I’m glad to see the Matco guy’s business increasing. He actually had a line of dudes in the truck buying stuff so that’s a good feeling. He’s only got like 5 years on the truck so I’m really wishing him the best. He should be seeing a good bit as my driver and another a route over quit so he’s the only Matco guy around the area now. I guess if you ever wanted to a tool truck guy Chicagoland has a **** ton of Matco routes available. 😁 Also, haven’t seen the Snap-on guy in bit. He used to be the most reliable dude around so I’m hoping everything is cool.
Jealous ! No matco truck within 8hrs of me
 

ETJ

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Are you intending to use these together, or perhaps politely request that someone else does?
I am intending to buy heavier bossing mallet (maybe Trusty cook TCBM3, Capri, Eastwood dead blow) or a heavy blocking hammer or a Pexto #3 to use with the sand bag, because I am working with steel. The two smaller wooden mallets don't weigh anything so not good for my use. But they are there if I want to work with aluminum. The 3 mallets were extra 10 euros with the sand bag. And I intend to use them myself.
 

four.cycle

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Interesting. You use a wooden mallet for sheet steel?
We were using forged steel hammers - kinda-sorta like auto body hammers - to form sheet copper with sandbags.
I would assume you'd want more hammer for steel. :headscrat
 

ETJ

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Interesting. You use a wooden mallet for sheet steel?
We were using forged steel hammers - kinda-sorta like auto body hammers - to form sheet copper with sandbags.
I would assume you'd want more hammer for steel. :headscrat
Was this a reply to me? No, I just explained that I am intending to buy heavier bossing mallet or blocking hammer that better suit my use. And I gave three examples.

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I bought the wooden mallets because sand bag was 59 euros and with 69 euros you got it with 3 wooden mallets. And maybe I want to shape Aluminum in there future.
 

dscheidt

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Menards for made in USA Wilde punches and chisels + a cheap-o auto center punch since I have a hard time keeping track of my other one. About $25 for all of it.

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I had one of those auto center punches. It made two marks on mild steel, and was so blunt I was surprised Snoop didn't show up looking for it. Hope they remembered to heat treat yours.
 

SouthernIllinois

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I had one of those auto center punches. It made two marks on mild steel, and was so blunt I was surprised Snoop didn't show up looking for it. Hope they remembered to heat treat yours.
I don't have much faith either thats why I also bought a Wilde 1/4" center punch as a matter of fact I almost bought two of them...lol
 

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Didn't we already have this conversation?

The ORIGINAL is apparently still being made in Spokane, Washington U.S.A.

Noxon / Noxon, Inc. DBA Spring Tools, 2921 No. University, Spokane, WA 99206 (also Spring Line Inc.) / https://springtools.com/ / est. 1993 / patent 5307741 May 3 1994 & 5426858 Jun 27 1995 & 5433007 Jul 18 1995 Emory J. Clark and Robert J. Warner / TM 86209086 Feb 11 2021 / center punches, nail sets / https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/mar/02/inventor-emory-clarks-swring-finds-therapeutic-app/ / https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...inc-emory-j-clark-spokane-wa-01-15-22.492380/ /
 

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SouthernIllinois

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Didn't we already have this conversation?

The ORIGINAL is apparently still being made in Spokane, Washington U.S.A.

Noxon / Noxon, Inc. DBA Spring Tools, 2921 No. University, Spokane, WA 99206 (also Spring Line Inc.) / https://springtools.com/ / est. 1993 / patent 5307741 May 3 1994 & 5426858 Jun 27 1995 & 5433007 Jul 18 1995 Emory J. Clark and Robert J. Warner / TM 86209086 Feb 11 2021 / center punches, nail sets / https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/mar/02/inventor-emory-clarks-swring-finds-therapeutic-app/ / https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...inc-emory-j-clark-spokane-wa-01-15-22.492380/ /
There was no conversation.
 

dscheidt

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Didn't we already have this conversation?

The ORIGINAL is apparently still being made in Spokane, Washington U.S.A.

Noxon / Noxon, Inc. DBA Spring Tools, 2921 No. University, Spokane, WA 99206 (also Spring Line Inc.) / https://springtools.com/ / est. 1993 / patent 5307741 May 3 1994 & 5426858 Jun 27 1995 & 5433007 Jul 18 1995 Emory J. Clark and Robert J. Warner / TM 86209086 Feb 11 2021 / center punches, nail sets / https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/mar/02/inventor-emory-clarks-swring-finds-therapeutic-app/ / https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...inc-emory-j-clark-spokane-wa-01-15-22.492380/ /
That’s an entirely different animal. The sort we’re talking about have an internal spring, ball, and ramp that is the trigger. Compress the spring far enough, the trigger triggers, and the spring forces the ball into the stylus. They predate the spring tools sort by decades. Brown and sharpe wood one starting around 1905, startett followed a few years later with a different design. The basic form most modern ones are based on dates to the 40s.
 

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Odd. I have that, and the straight version, and both are smooth as silk. Maybe there was some break in I don't remember, but I don't remember them being problems.

Just like VJQuan, I'm using WD-40 for general cleaning and flushing of suspect joints.

This one is smooth until it's about half-way open. Then it hangs a bit. It's not horrible, and the hitch occurs beyond the point at which it's often opened. It's still irritating, but far better quality than the similar Quinn specimen I bought a coupla months ago. That thing's a true POS. I'm hoping this German one gets better with more exercise. Time will tell.
 

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Snagged for upcoming work on my own machine. The last kit I had was a PT. It stripped out pretty bad. Got the job done (which was also its first job), and I was pissed off bad enough to just throw it in the garbage. 🤣 Here's hoping this one is a bit better. I've had decent experiences with HF Maddox brand stuff. Functional, not fancy.
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Worth every penny, use it often, springs are great for when you want to hit something hard.

I have three different sized auto punches by them so there's one for almost every use. Their tap holders are fantastic, and the jaws don't loosen under use. Their pin punches and also their static center punches are also worth the $ as they are bulletproof. Again, all of this is expensive, but they are great; all of the punches that I have by them must be made from some type of tool steel and not just high carbon (Wilde) or 4140; they are vastly superior to anything else I've used. And when you bend that 1/16 pin punch, you can buy a single on Amazon. Or you could last time I needed one. OTOH, Starrett measuring equipment is ridiculously priced in comparison to Mitutoyo; I cannot understand their pricing.
 

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Snagged for upcoming work on my own machine. The last kit I had was a PT. It stripped out pretty bad. Got the job done (which was also its first job), and I was pissed off bad enough to just throw it in the garbage. 🤣 Here's hoping this one is a bit better. I've had decent experiences with HF Maddox brand stuff. Functional, not fancy.

I know it's too late, but maybe for others, Lisle makes a really nice puller for this application. It's just a much better design than the old style like this. I don't have the Lisle, I actually have Snap On (gasp) that I don't think I've used more than twice, but lisle is what I'd buy today.
 
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four.cycle

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Finally got over to pick this up.. Titan 12138 6-inch "stubby" adjustable wrench. China (PRC)
Package says 1-3/16", but I can't push it past 1-1/8". Meh. Adjusting wheel feels "skritchy". Screw holding adjusting wheel to frame has some sort of gick applied or has been plugged with glue. $15 + tax out the door. I oiled it up good with "3 in 1" and worked it open-closed-open-close a few dozen times. Not much improvement. Things it has working in its favor: Metric AND SAE scales on jaws. Lifetime Warranty. :rolleyes: Might try to use it to fix some toilets Sunday. What fun.

follow up on this one - Saturday Jan 31 2026
After flooding this thing with "3-in-1" oil, wrapping it up in a zip lock, and allowing it to soak overnight, things did not improve.
NOW the adjustment wheel sticks.
Returning to retail store for refund.
AVOID THIS UNIT.
 

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shoggoth80

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I know it's too late, but maybe for others, Lisle makes a really nice puller for this application. It's just a much better design than the old style like this. I don't have the Lisle, I actually have Snap On (gasp) that I don't think I've used more than twice, but lisle is what I'd buy today.
I think the Snap On is made by Lang, but could be wrong. We have one at work. Funny enough, I've warrantied the forcing screw on it twice, and had to get the thread in adapters warrantied about 3 times (specifically the one for GM, thread pitch and size escapes me).

I'm sure the Lisle kit is decent. HF is both a small stop on my way to work, or a brief drive from home depending on store. So there's a convenience there that's hard to ignore. Lol.
 

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I know it's too late, but maybe for others, Lisle makes a really nice puller for this application. It's just a much better design than the old style like this. I don't have the Lisle, I actually have Snap On (gasp) that I don't think I've used more than twice, but lisle is what I'd buy today.

I bought the LIsle 39000 puller for removing a power steering pump pulley and it worked took a bit to get set it up for the 1st time.

Edit to add the word set....
 
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Madjik Man

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Williams 1/2" Ratchet S-52EHA

Bought it on Amazon when it was $21 (currently $27). It was out of stock at the time but it finally shipped and delivered.

Nice beefy USA made ratchet. Low tooth count, high back drag. Definitely feels dry inside, need to open it up and put a dab of lube.

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Williams 1/2" Ratchet S-52EHA

Bought it on Amazon when it was $21 (currently $27). It was out of stock at the time but it finally shipped and delivered.

Nice beefy USA made ratchet. Low tooth count, high back drag. Definitely feels dry inside, need to open it up and put a dab of lube.

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Interested in the how much of a difference it makes after you lube it up... Had a similar complaint when I got one like 2 years ago and it never occurred to me to open it up and lube it. I don't even know if I still have it I should look.
 

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I needed a drywall lift that gets at least 14' tall which rules out the one Harbor Freight sells. Ordered a 16' lift from Amazon. They claim the brand is "Rovibek" but it appears to be the same lift as dozens of others being sold under various brands and sellers. Reviews of drywall lifts are all over the place so its hard to put much credence in the reviews. I bought it a little while back, but am just starting to use it. A little wobbly, a little scary, but so far no disasters (knock on wood). Because it's a 16' lift, you have to lift the sheet up pretty high to get it on the lift. Despite the wobbly fear factor, it makes drywalling a 12-14' tall ceiling by a lone 60 something year old dude possible.

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A little wobbly, a little scary
Perfect description of a "rock jack" as we called 'em. Still beat hell out of hauling a sheet of 5/8" rock up a ladder and holding it in place with your head while getting the first four nails in--which is why drywallers used be called "flatheads". Nowadays, they're called "methheads", or so I hear.
 

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Thank you UPS/Fedex...

Today's front porch goodies:

The Gedore screwdriver deal posted earlier on this thread... $25 shipped, they are ridiculously nice of that price!

The new Klein mini-1/4"-hex ratchet 65200Mag

VIM Nora 150 (already have the bigger sizes)

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Gonna blame GJ and YouTube for this...

Today was pancake Saturday at Harry J Epstein so I went.

YouTube put the HJE and Koken tour on my feed so I had a mission to check out Koken.

Got the 1/4" and 3/8" spinners and double universals. Also picked a made in USA Husky Robertson screwdriver for $1 & a Lutz file handle.
 

dwasifar

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Went to Menard's to cash in a rebate certificate before I lose it or forget about it, and came home with some clamps and a magnet on a stick:

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Each package contains two 6" and two 12" clamps, $9 per set after $3 rebate, limit two. They're Tool Shop brand, so not the world's greatest, but they seem okay for what they are. I added some rack space for them:

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I also got a two pack of 40 tooth general purpose 10" saw blades at Lowe's:

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I've reached the conclusion that as long as I keep working with jatoba, I'm gonna keep going through saw blades, so I'm just going to try something disposable like these and see how that goes.
 
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