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2ndGearRubber

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It's made for an 11mm ratcheting wrench, so curious why it wouldn't?

Those sockets have a little metal ring around them to lock into the 11mm wrench and keep them from falling out. The astro/VIM design is the other way, where the drive tool holds the ring, and the socket has the groove. I'm not sure the snap-on style will clear the retention ring already present in the VIM tool. But I will probably try to see if it works.
 
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mikeinri

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I drew some inspiration from this video, but instead of fabricating and heat treating a new spring, I just filed the original spring down on the flats of the heart to slightly reduce the diameter. I also polished the bottom face of the selector disc where it contacts the ratchet body.

Wow, backdrag is so much lighter now! Shockingly so after such a minor adjustment, it's currently somewhere between my 24T Plomb and 30T Cornwell which is pretty impressive for a 72 tooth ratchet with multi-tooth engagement.

The only other change I have noticed is that the selector has slightly less "spring action" when you turn it, but that doesn't bother me.

I'm assuming that you understand that language? Or, you spent a LOT more time trying to figure out what he changed than I did???

Can you post pics (or even a drawing) to better describe exactly how you modified the spring?

Thanks.

Mike
 

tamaraw

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I'm assuming that you understand that language? Or, you spent a LOT more time trying to figure out what he changed than I did???

Can you post pics (or even a drawing) to better describe exactly how you modified the spring?

Thanks.

Mike
I don't speak Japanese but I can read subtitles :)

The guy in the video bent new springs out of wire and heat treated them until he found one that he liked better.

I used a small file on the flats of the heart so that it has a slightly thinner square profile rather than the original round one, basically just reduces the spring rate.
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Area I filed highlighted in yellow, I mostly focused on the red section:
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The machining on the underside of the selector switch was pretty rough, so I sanded that down a bit as well:
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mikeinri

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Thanks, that's very helpful!

I tried the closed captioning, that gave me Japanese text. I didn't see English subtitles.

Mike
 

tamaraw

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Thanks, that's very helpful!

I tried the closed captioning, that gave me Japanese text. I didn't see English subtitles.

Mike
It's a little wonky. You first turn on closed captioning, then click the gear, choose auto-translate, and select English (or your preferred language) from the list. It's not 100% perfect, but you can get the gist of what they are talking about.
 

ihateminimumwage

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Those sockets have a little metal ring around them to lock into the 11mm wrench and keep them from falling out. The astro/VIM design is the other way, where the drive tool holds the ring, and the socket has the groove. I'm not sure the snap-on style will clear the retention ring already present in the VIM tool. But I will probably try to see if it works.
Ahh, that makes way more sense! Thanks for the info.
 

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Went to the zone today haha. I like AutoZone the best out of most parts stores. My dad is like can’t you pick a different place to hang out on your paid holiday I’m like nope I love parts stores lol. We also went to Advance Auto one that we hadn’t been to in years. They didn’t have the extension I’m looking for but it’s not an immediate need so I will order it sometime. Got a 10mm socket to replace the one I lost at home. 5/8 magnetic spark plug socket for home because after trying a magnetic one for the first time not too long ago when I got one from the Snap-on truck I really liked the magnetic ones and decided I wanted one for home too. Then a breaker bar because I broke the one I had so they replaced it for me under warranty. All they did was ask me for my phone number and to scan the new one to have for inventory records. Manager is like yeah no problem at all if it says lifetime warranty we have to honor it. They took the old one and gave me the new one.

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New Gearwrench GWMBS39XPS 39 piece Microdriver Tool Set. I'm a sucker for compact 1/4 drive socket sets. This recently released Gearwrench set caught my eye and drained my wallet. :lol: The set contains a mixture of metric and SAE stubby sockets. Now, they're not Zeal stubby. Considering Gearwrench 1/4 drive regular socket run an inch long, these are approx 3/4 of an inch long. You get 8, 10, 12, 13 & 14mm along with 1/4, 5/16, 3/8, 7/16, 1/2, &9/16 SAE. You get a nice revised 120XP locking 1/4 drive ratchet, a universal joint, a short magnetic handle, 22 S2 bits including Torx, SAE hex, Phillips and SAE Flat Tip. A removable foam storage tray in a decent plastic storage box. The bar or ruler looking thing in the case is a magnetic bar to stick removed fasteners on top prevent loss.
I have to say, I'm disappointed in the overall set quality up front. For starters most of the bits are rusty. It appears that Gearwrench quality may have slipped again. Instead of using nice oval drive tool ball retaining cut outs on square drive end of the extensions and universal joint, they've switch to a variation with a groove & notch. It might not show up in my crappy photos but, it means you can move the extension in and out approx 1/8 of an inch when it's attached to the ratchet :wtf:
Gearwrench uses regularly shaped cut outs on the socket but as luck would have it, the cutout position on the 10 mm socket is improperly positioned so, you get the same in & out play when attached to the ratchet.:sad: The other sockets fit fine.
I'm normally not a fan of stacked pawl ratchets but, I like the compactness of the new 120XP ratchet. that's a dime rest on the head of the ratchet. The head is thin as you would expect from a Gearwrench fine toothed ratchet, and two Torx screws secure the gear cover to the ratchet head. You can leave the ratchet unlocked o when locked there is minimum movement of the ratchet head. The ratchet measures a hair over 7 inches long overall. I like the short 6 3/4 magnetic bit handle. Trilobal shaped handle with ridges towards the front for faster finger spinning. The removable orange foam tray is approx 5 1/2 by 9 inches long in case you wanted to store it in a cart or drawer. The label says, "Packaged in China with goods from Taiwan, Vietnam, and Mainland China". Not sure if I'm keeping it :beer:
 

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Fedwrench

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Went to the zone today haha. I like AutoZone the best out of most parts stores. My dad is like can’t you pick a different place to hang out on your paid holiday I’m like nope I love parts stores lol. We also went to Advance Auto one that we hadn’t been to in years. They didn’t have the extension I’m looking for but it’s not an immediate need so I will order it sometime. Got a 10mm socket to replace the one I lost at home. 5/8 magnetic spark plug socket for home because after trying a magnetic one for the first time not too long ago when I got one from the Snap-on truck I really liked the magnetic ones and decided I wanted one for home too. Then a breaker bar because I broke the one I had so they replaced it for me under warranty. All they did was ask me for my phone number and to scan the new one to have for inventory records. Manager is like yeah no problem at all if it says lifetime warranty we have to honor it. They took the old one and gave me the new one.

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How much does that 18 inch long Breaker bar flex under load?
 

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How much does that 18 inch long Breaker bar flex under load?
A little bit. Not as much as I thought. I am curious to compare this one to the old one though as the old one was just made in China this one says made in Vietnam and finished in mainland China so I’m curious if there is going to be a difference. There is also an Allen screw holding this one in and the other one had a torx screw.
 

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A little bit. Not as much as I thought. I am curious to compare this one to the old one though as the old one was just made in China this one says made in Vietnam and finished in mainland China so I’m curious if there is going to be a difference. There is also an Allen screw holding this one in and the other one had a torx screw.
I'm seeing most of my recent Gearwrench sourced items as being labeled made in Vietnam and finished in mainland China.
Thanks for sharing, let's me know what's in Autozone without ever going in one. :lol: :beer:
 

BlakeTheCarGuy

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I'm seeing most of my recent Gearwrench sourced items as being labeled made in Vietnam and finished in mainland China.
Thanks for sharing, let's me know what's in Autozone without ever going in one. :lol: :beer:
Yes. Some of the ratchets said that now too. Hopefully there won’t be too much difference in the quality. But I love going to AutoZone haha.
 

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A little bit. Not as much as I thought. I am curious to compare this one to the old one though as the old one was just made in China this one says made in Vietnam and finished in mainland China so I’m curious if there is going to be a difference. There is also an Allen screw holding this one in and the other one had a torx screw.


How did the old one break, at the flex joint?
 

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New Gearwrench GWMBS39XPS 39 piece Microdriver Tool Set.
Is there no bit holding socket in that set? Thanks for posting pics. Thats too bad about the retention method. That gives me nightmares of those double detent Craftsman tools!
 

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Is there no bit holding socket in that set? Thanks for posting pics. Thats too bad about the retention method. That gives me nightmares of those double detent Craftsman tools!
Nope, no bit holding socket to use the bits with the ratchet nor, a 1/4 square drive by 1/4 hex bit to use the sockets with the magnetic bit holding handle. The other weird thing is that the hex bits in the set are all SAE, no metric. :wtf: I think Gearwrench might be cutting corners these days and possibly rebadging crescent & SATA items as Gearwrench. :sad:
 
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Bought a 12" laser-marked speed square to complement the 7" one I got yesterday:

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Empire 12" was a little pricey so I'm giving HF a try:

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Seems pretty nice. Checks out square and markings are sharp. These two will live in the workshop, and the Swanson will live in the garage.

I also bought oil filter pliers and some clamps while I was there:

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Snap-on SGDMRC4-C6 Magnetic Non-Conductive Composite Shank Bit Holder Extension.

1/4” square drive w/ ball retention for use in interchangeable shank ratcheting screwdrivers.
Individually tested to protect up to 1,000 V AC, 1,500 V DC.
It utilizes two methods of bit retention, magnet and a c-clip, which makes for a very secure connection. I’m not sure if they are all made that way or if this was an extra feature as this one was made for Boeing.
7-1/4” OAL. 6” working length.
Beautifully crafted and well engineered tool.
I picked this up some time ago and just now got around to posting it.

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dwasifar

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Bought a 12" laser-marked speed square to complement the 7" one I got yesterday:

Empire 12" was a little pricey so I'm giving HF a try:

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Seems pretty nice. Checks out square and markings are sharp. These two will live in the workshop, and the Swanson will live in the garage.

Follow-up. For some reason I went back to look at the HF listing for this square. It says, "Compare to DeWalt DWHT46032." So I did, and I don't think I've ever seen a more faithful knockoff:

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It is exactly DeWalt's design. Don't know if it's worth their time to pursue it in court or whatever; after all, DeWalt didn't invent the speed square either. But man, that's a bold swipe.
 

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I don't speak Japanese but I can read subtitles :)

The guy in the video bent new springs out of wire and heat treated them until he found one that he liked better.

I used a small file on the flats of the heart so that it has a slightly thinner square profile rather than the original round one, basically just reduces the spring rate.
img_5583-jpg.2175952


Area I filed highlighted in yellow, I mostly focused on the red section:
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The machining on the underside of the selector switch was pretty rough, so I sanded that down a bit as well:
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This brings back funny memories. I was lubing a round roto head ratchet with such a spring. Of course it flew off and I could not find it ANYWHERE after 10 min in a messy garage. So it was as good as gone and was wondering how I could get another to avoid trashing a perfectly good ratchet. So I ended up doing more or less the same fab and it was working fine. BUT, when I was pulling off my shoes later in the day, I found the spring stuck in the outer surface of my sock. So I put the original back on (being more careful this time ...). Ha!

In my case I cut a part off a straight length of spring wire and bent it to fit roughly matching the shape above. It did not feel any worse than the original. But I was lucky to have roughly the right strength/diameter spring material.
 
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Last best tools showed this…….i had to pick one up. Megapro 30th anniversary set.IMG_5538.jpeg

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How does it feel in use? The to one does not look that ergonomic, but I have subs that look similar that feel fine. I assume that the center one is a ratcheting screwdriver.
 

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How does it feel in use? The to one does not look that ergonomic, but I have subs that look similar that feel fine. I assume that the center one is a ratcheting screwdriver.
Center is ratcheting, correct. Top one is pretty bulbous, but feels fine to me, I have fairly large hands. It is hard and a little slippery however. Haven’t used the bottom one.
 

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Buy nothing fb group find

Omega cutters- japan
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Need help identifying the tool in the 2nd Pic,
The model number and image search don't yield anything
2299-00 and made in W Germany
 

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