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captain14

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Went in Lowe's today looking at fencing, and (as usual) wandered over to the tools. Noticed a new Kobalt set consisting of copies of Knipex's 125mm Cobra and 6" Pliers Wrench for $15.

I wanted a 6" Pliers Wrench for a toolkit, and the 125mm Cobras (and now 125mm Pliers Wrench) are an EDC essential--so I bought the set.
cody1325,

I searched the Lowes site and did not get a hit using the stock number on the package. Were these in a different area like maybe for Xmas sales?
 

cody1325

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cody1325,

I searched the Lowes site and did not get a hit using the stock number on the package. Were these in a different area like maybe for Xmas sales?


My guess is--yes. They were in a long blue cardboard shipper in the aisle beside the tool section.

I too searched the part number--nothing either. Guessing it's not in inventory officially yet.
 

kyrbz

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Thrift shop deep fryer for dying small plastic parts. Between my cookie sheets for oil drips, cake pans for brake part rebuilds, Pyrex for clean hydraulic fluid and repairs, toaster oven for warming shrink fit parts, and scale for mixing paint, I almost have a complete (toxic) kitchen in the garage! 😂
A turkey baster, meat thermometer, and a hot plate are quite useful as well (y)
 

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If the system is being repaired and not scrapped, usually a section of tubing is cut out and an "access fitting" gets brazed in its place.
What's the reason that they don't have a service port and how do you refill it?
 

CHI_Tool&Die

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Snappy had some leftover 100 tooth fixed head ratchets from the first release. Grabbed them to try out at home to see if they will hold-up. Got them for the sale price from August or July whenever they first came out so I was happy. They seem to be breaking in a bit as I use them for the day at work until I bring them home. Also grabbed another blow gun.
 

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Steel_Rain

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As far as I know, all Vessel tools are made in their factories in Japan. They now have some US distributors, but I have ordered from Amazon.jp in the past.

Vessel does make most items in Japan. The sockets, extension and ratchet body are made in Taiwan (along with the case), but the handle is made in Japan.

Vessel has a factory in Thailand that produces screwdrivers and they also re-market a few things made in China (not many).

CP (I know he isn't exactly Mr. Popular) did an overview about these here:

Edit: I also wanted to say I have two of these sets and they have excellent quality and have held up great.
 

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What's the reason that they don't have a service port and how do you refill it?
No idea why they don't have a port. I know some older/lower priced stuff gets filled at the factory then the tube they filled it with just gets crimped at the end. I'm not an HVAC guy, I just came across the tool once before and know just enough to be dangerous. ;)
 

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No idea why they don't have a port. I know some older/lower priced stuff gets filled at the factory then the tube they filled it with just gets crimped at the end. I'm not an HVAC guy, I just came across the tool once before and know just enough to be dangerous. ;)
Well you talk a good game🤣🤣🤣

I appreciate the info. Thanks
 

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we reboot pretty much any axle we can at the shop i work at, but thats mostly euro stuff where the axle is like 1200$ for a aftermarket version
Makes sense at those prices!! It is odd how hard it is to find specific boots now though. But I guess most anything with the right size/volume should work. It is messy cleaning and preparing the old joints though. Seems we have mostly evolved to a throw away society where even fairly significant assemblies do not often get repaired and get replaced as a module. It is good at least *somebody* is doing the right thing!!
 
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Needed heavier duty snips for work for stuff that regular scissors won't handle. But I didn't want tin snips & I wanted something spring loaded. Was gonna get the Workpros but these SKs were $7 cheaper, they're made by the same company anyway. Just the grips are different.
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Not a tool but they arrived today. My current rear shocks are like 15+yrs old & one started leaking last week. Was more than I wanted to spend but surprisingly Amazon actually had them & for $30 cheaper than every where else.
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Just off the truck (no not that one...the one with the big smile). Tekton 1/2" drive 12 point sockets 3/8" to 1 1/2". Never needed 12 pts. for the stuff I do 'til now. Just snagged another giant rod off FB Marketplace (GE locomotive engine). Annnnd it still has the piston! (as well as "issues"). Anyway the whole assembly is with 12 point bolts sooo, time to tool up! I added a teaser photo, plan to do it up like the one I posted a few months back.
 

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No idea why they don't have a port. I know some older/lower priced stuff gets filled at the factory then the tube they filled it with just gets crimped at the end. I'm not an HVAC guy, I just came across the tool once before and know just enough to be dangerous. ;)
Actually it's kind of better that way as it has no place to leak, where most service ports no matter how good they are leak a tiny tiny bit over time. A lot of times when you see a freezer that's still going after 50 or 60 years it's a truly sealed system like that.
 

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Picked up this 3/8 ratchet, at 1st glance it looked like a rusted POS but upon picking it up has a really nice ratchet mechanism. I've done Google image searches etc and they keep brining up Proto. Amd while it looks identical , this is missing many of the markings a Proto ratchet would have as per what ive seen online. Anyone know what this is ?
 

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AJHD

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Picked up this 3/8 ratchet, at 1st glance it looked like a rusted POS but upon picking it up has a really nice ratchet mechanism. I've done Google image searches etc and they keep brining up Proto. Amd while it looks identical , this is missing many of the markings a Proto ratchet would have as per what ive seen online. Anyone know what this is ?

Looks like a Plomb.
 

tamaraw

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Picked up this 3/8 ratchet, at 1st glance it looked like a rusted POS but upon picking it up has a really nice ratchet mechanism. I've done Google image searches etc and they keep brining up Proto. Amd while it looks identical , this is missing many of the markings a Proto ratchet would have as per what ive seen online. Anyone know what this is ?
Plomb was the predecessor to Proto, they switched names in 1948 over a naming dispute with another company.

There were a few different handle styles and selector switches used over the years, but your model looks like WWII era, probably early 1940s. Nice find!
 

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Plomb was the predecessor to Proto, they switched names in 1948 over a naming dispute with another company.

There were a few different handle styles and selector switches used over the years, but your model looks like WWII era, probably early 1940s. Nice find!
the general knowledge here absolutely blows my mind.

Here's a blurry picture of something from the 1940s! Oh yeah, that would be this thing.. then proceeds to go in detail about what it is.

Meanwhile, I spent a few hours trying to pour through old catalogs, make a single post and within a day or two I have more information than I know what to do with, which is exactly what I wanted.

If I had a hat I would tip it to you
 

BobsYourUncle69

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Plomb was the predecessor to Proto, they switched names in 1948 over a naming dispute with another company.

There were a few different handle styles and selector switches used over the years, but your model looks like WWII era, probably early 1940s. Nice find!
That will explain why it looks so famn similar. At 1st I was sure what the " symbol " was in the name and that threw me off a bit when doing the search.

It doesn't feel old at all and it certainly doesn't feel like any other ratchets ive felt that are decades newer.

Outside of my socket sets , I have ratchets that I hang up at my bench for quick access along with a few common size sockets and this ratchet has found a space there( circled in yellow )

Thanks for the info
 

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cody1325

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Pliers are NWS. Ratchets is fairly smooth, a tad on the short side. Screwdriver is very bulbous, I don’t like it. Wrench is ok. Sockets are pretty much Taiwan standard. IMG_6507.jpegIMG_6508.jpegIMG_6509.jpegIMG_6510.jpeg

Looking at the site, pliers are $45, and the ratchet $70. Been wanting to try NWS pliers as well as a comfort grip ratchet, so $70 is a steal.


How wide is the insert? I may end up setting the insert in a small toolbox drawer I've got just to have some "quick grab" essentials (even though, really, all I'm interested in is the ratchet and pliers).
 

tamaraw

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That will explain why it looks so famn similar. At 1st I was sure what the " symbol " was in the name and that threw me off a bit when doing the search.

It feels like a finer tooth ratchet than the 25 teeth would suggest, so I have to assume it was rebuilt at some point, it feels as fine and is quieter than my Ampro 72 tooth ratchet. It doesn't feel old at all and it certainly doesn't feel like any other ratchets ive felt that are decades newer.

Outside of my socket sets , I have ratchets that I hang up at my bench for quick access along with a few common size sockets and this ratchet has found a space there( circled in yellow )

Thanks for the info
24 tooth, but very low backdrag with the swing pawl design. I have also noticed some of the early Plomb springs can be lighter than modern Proto ones. Your selector switch is original (styles changed over the years) and I wouldn't be surprised if the anvil is too given the matching finish, or lack thereof.

I have a 1/4" Plomb with the same wartime styling as yours as well as an earlier 30s 3/8 pebble handle. Both work flawlessly with the original running gear, although I did swap in a Proto 1/2" in 3/8" anvil.

Its very simple to clean the internals, and in a worst case scenario, they mostly take modern Proto rebuild parts.

Nice Gedore stuff on the wall too!
 

MWEric

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Looking at the site, pliers are $45, and the ratchet $70. Been wanting to try NWS pliers as well as a comfort grip ratchet, so $70 is a steal.


How wide is the insert? I may end up setting the insert in a small toolbox drawer I've got just to have some "quick grab" essentials (even though, really, all I'm interested in is the ratchet and pliers).
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Been watching the weirdo from Obsessed Garage and saw this sample kit from Sonic tools. Pretty cheap way to try out their tools. This was $77 total. IMG_6506.jpeg
Those sets used to be free :lol: Of course, they only had their 45 tooth ratchet back then and it wasn't a great ratchet instead of their current 60 tooth version. I think Sonic is really overpriced when not on clearance but, that's just me.
 
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