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lund

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All I can think about is people taking this knowledge to the grave. I have kids, wish I could teach them this stuff, but I don't even know how to do it. Generational knowledge lost- As American's, that loss of institutional knowledge is a real detriment often not discussed in the digital world IMHO.
My opinion/observation: With kids you need to start pretty young training them. It can be hard since at very young ages they are little help at first and slow things down a lot while trying to keep them safe etc. Some will take to it and keep it up extending skills. Others will not show much interest or aptitude and it is probably a mistake to push them too much. I found, when first starting, it can be better to keep work shifts relatively focused and under an hour with them doing other things inbetween for longer so they would not lose interest and I would not get overall slowed down too much. It should usually become apparent if kids have the aptitude and desire to extend more around middle school to early high school ages. I would not kick yourself if you tried to launch your kids doing more, but they did not turn out being the types to pick things up. All kids are different. Insofar as they learn to do some range of things very well, it can work out well for them in the end. It is a good thing that we are not all similar.

It is surprising how different we can all be with handy skills and aptitude ... even siblings in the same family. All that being said, as a somewhat "old school" guy, I agree there is too much focus today on online stuff. If left to their own, often young girls overdose on social media, and young boys overdose on games and youtube type stuff. In our household, we limit games + TV/streaming YouTube etc with our two sons (middle school and early high school age). But it is still a struggle to keep it in balance. As they get older, if they grumble when working on projects and home/auto needs with me, I remind them how much we would be paying for others to do the tasks and the impact of that on them later if they do not learn. They get the point. But for the most part, they will choose games over project work if it is an option. I hope that we are giving them a base to generalize skills if they so choose. I also intend to gift them a lot of tools and equipment relatively early if they continue to develop reasonable aptitude for it so they can take advantage of skills in early adult-hood and hopefully keep extending. Ironically, resources like you-tube today can help a LOT picking up handy skills if one is reasonably discerning about filtering good resources from junk. So in some respects, it is easier to pick up broader skills today if you start from a reasonably sound base.
 
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jar944

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All I can think about is people taking this knowledge to the grave. I have kids, wish I could teach them this stuff, but I don't even know how to do it. Generational knowledge lost- As American's, that loss of institutional knowledge is a real detriment often not discussed in the digital world IMHO.

The knowledge is still out there and at this point freely available and easily found if someone has the inclination and interest.
 

NUTTSGT

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Those, and 1/4”x5/8” are the two biggest problems with filling socket trays.
Blue Point (Snap on) lists both shallow and deep in 6 point. Hopefully you can hit up the local Snap on guy for those, otherwise, they wanted $20 in shipping when I looked last week.

The 12 point versions of another brand were mentioned in a thread I got from a dozen years ago. I don't believe they are made any longer.


Blue Point part numbers.

BLPS 1458 shallow $4.50
BLPLS 1458 deep $8.15
 
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neophyte

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The knowledge is still out there and at this point freely available and easily found if someone has the inclination and interest.
Knowledge may be out there, but it is not always easy to find, or free to acquire, especially if the knowledge was published in low print tun books, or the knowledge requires the use of specialized equipment that not only needs to be hinted down, but also purchased and restored.
 

cody1325

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I went by the plumbing tool aisle to see the new plumbing tools Klein came out with for Lowe's.

While I'm not impressed by the country of origin (most were made in China), it's actually a pretty good assortment of tools great for even general purpose use--three different sizes of Knipex Pliers Wrench clones, and three different sizes of Cobra clones. A large number of different screwdrivers, pipe wrenches, and the like as well.

My target was the 32611P 13-in-1 "Pocket Screwdriver with Hex Bits". The Snap-On prybar is a prybar. The little 2-in-1s (occasionally with a magnet) often don't hold their bits well, and you have just PH1 and a small slotted bit. Thus, I wanted something with a lot of bits that wasn't a PITA to carry.

This one has PH00, PH0, PH1, PH2, 3 different sizes of slotted bit, three hex key sizes, 1/4 and 1/8 nut drivers (actually the bit holders) and a magnet.


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With the bit holder stored inside, it's pretty compact.

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I would like some Torx bits in it, and am currently looking 1/8" double ended bits. Klein appears to have other "electronics" driver kits that include the same bits (although in metric), and some are sold on their own as replacement parts.


These are aimed at plumbers, and I assume the hex bits are for things like faucet handle set screws.
 
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jar944

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Knowledge may be out there, but it is not always easy to find, or free to acquire, especially if the knowledge was published in low print tun books, or the knowledge requires the use of specialized equipment that not only needs to be hinted down, but also purchased and restored.

Fair enough. My comment was more geared toward woodwork as that was the topic (or what I read it as) in IRQVETs post I relied to.

That said I've never personally run into a lack of available information for whatever I'm trying to learn. It might take some searching and some time (years) and effort but it's always been out there (and for free).
 

mellowdave

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So, I already had all these same hex heads, which were 25 years old. I broke the ball off of a ball head 4mm 1/4 drive and asked my daughter, who is a mechanic, to discuss the warranty with her Snap-On driver. She worked out the replacement for that and one or two others, and once she had them all in hand, I told her to put the entire set in her toolbox (she really can't afford things like this in Snap-On yet);

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I ordered these from her dealer to replace mine. A complete set of 3/8 and 1/4 hex, ball hex, and Torx is in the drawer; these are just the "New Arrivals" per the thread title.
 

Squankum

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I've mentioned that I'm buying some Vessel Ph#0 screwdrivers to follow-up on last year's Christmas presents of the Lowe's/Wiha 5-screwdriver deal. Well, one of my friends is getting a Wiha in Ph#0, so it matches the rest. Is she a lady? Well, yeah. Actually cheaper than the Japanese Vessel, too.

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ETJ

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I ordered some christmas presents (Takara Tomy cars) for my nephews and I added some W.I.T tools to the parcel forwarding packet.

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And some other stuff I bought last month:

snap-on long 14mm spark plug socket. I don't really need it, but it was cheap.

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Used older model Snap-on air saw.
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M635_Guy

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My neighbor brought the front struts to his Subaru to me to swap out for him. I'm used to Honda's where you just need a box end wrench and an Allen key to remove the nut from the strut. I had never seen one where the nut is recessed so far into the top hat like this.

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I figured out this is what pass-through socket sets are for and Harbor Freight came to the rescue. I sent the neighbor to HF to pick up this kit.

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He told me to keep it, although I don't know when I'll need to use it again.
I have an old Craftsman set, and while I don't use it often, it is usually saving my **** when I am.

It's been helpful with a lot of IKEA assembly too :LOL:
 

Squankum

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snap-on long 14mm spark plug socket. I don't really need it, but it was cheap.

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I did recently mock the idea of buying a whole set of exxxxtra-long sockets, but yes, I have one or two spark plug sockets like this and they're very nice!
 

Squankum

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Really wanted the pearl blue ones but got outbid. Managed these titanium ones for about $40 under truck price.

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Gray handles, because black was still not impossible to overlook in a customer's car's engine bay!

Hmmm... you know, they really would make some sales if they teamed up with RealTree camo...
 
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