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Steve_P

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I haven't bought any tools in ~6 months (I know, ban me :ROFLMAO: ), and Wiha was having a sale, so Merry Christmas to me.

These are a Drive-Loc set that I supplemented with some additional bits. They are certainly not an economical alternative to a bit set, but they are a true universal driver that you can adjust the length on- very slick design. For the COO police, the bits and handle are made in Germany.

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Edit- one more Drive-Loc pic (I bought an extra handle). While I'm not saying you can't get the bit to collapse inside the handle, you can press on it very hard, and it doesn't move.

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And some free stuff below

Socks are wool but not advertised as merino, so I'll wash them a few times to soften them up. But they're nicely made with a thicker sole and heel and thinner top.

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And a free set of screwdrivers, again, made in Germany

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Beerhippie

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Not a tool, you say? You're wrong. An essential tool for early-morning driving.

I couldn't find the original Bar Buoy, but these are awful good copies. One for the Brick and one for the Toy. If I can find extra mounting brackets, I'll hang one from the handlebars of the mower next spring.
 

mikeinri

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Not a tool, you say? You're wrong. An essential tool for early-morning driving.

I couldn't find the original Bar Buoy, but these are awful good copies. One for the Brick and one for the Toy. If I can find extra mounting brackets, I'll hang one from the handlebars of the mower next spring.

Gimballed for those high-G turns on two wheels... or navigating the potholes around here. Perfect!

Mike
 

jives

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Just picked up this desktop Rockwell 15-017 DP for $50 on FBM. It was about 2.5 hrs away, but the wife and I were visiting family and it would be about a 40 min (roundtrip) out of the way jaunt on a 4 hr. trip. Picked it up on the way back from the visit. I believe it is the slow speed version based on the large size of the spindle pulley. A corner of the table has some rust pitting, the quill travel is slow which I attribute to being gummed up and 20 deg temps. The pulleys are very dusty, and other indicators suggest not a great deal of use in the last number of years.

I already have a Delta Rockwell 15-665 (6+6) from about 1964. Floor model, but the slowest speed is a bit too fast for some projects. When the weather warms I'll take it for a test run to see if it will replace the 15-665. The spindle travel on the 665 is about 1.5 inches longer, and the table is bigger. On the other hand, I have the head slid down on the post to make it a table top version, which makes opening the top and switching speeds a hassle. I like the table top version. No, don't have the space for both! I may just swap the heads, putting the 065 on the short post, and making room for a slow speed center pulley.

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pfbz

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So I bought some stuff from Wurth during their holiday sale... I bought some Wurth double box wrenches a while ago and have been very happy with them, so I thought I'd try some more of their stuff.

It is a bit disappointing that they don't explicitly list COO either on their tools or on their packaging. Several sources say the wrenches are still German, though I thin Taiwan is equally likely, and sources also say their screwdrivers are made by Felo in Germany (which is owned by Wurth), but again, Taiwan is a definite possibility.

The price point for the tools when on sale makes them a steal if German but still a decent deal if Taiwan. I was hoping there would be more clues when I actually received the tools (their website is pretty weak), but alas no.
ZEBRA POWERDRIV® Metric Combination Wrench...

I ordered each wrench individually, 6mm-19mm, 21, 22, 24, 27, 30, 32mm. The whole set was about $65. The wrench roll was another $11 from Amazon. Pretty nice tools, more of an "German car OE" style than modern wrench, but nice. Some have suggested that they are made by "Matador".

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pfbz

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I also picked up a set of their Zebra Torx drivers... Again sources say their screwdrivers are made by Felo in Germany (which is owned by Wurth), but again, Taiwan is a definite possibility.

Maybe a bit less impressed with these at $40 on sale, and no indication on the tool or box of COO. I was hoping they would be clearly German made Felo. Nice enough drivers though, great grips on the handles, too early to say how good the tips are.

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I had one of those. Don’t remember what I was torquing but suddenly the teeth just got extremely loud. Decided I didn’t trust it anymore and bought a package deal for a 1/2” and 3/8” Snap-On set.
Maybe if I greased it up but 🤷🏻‍♂️
I was surprised today to find out that Craftsman does not offer a ratchet rebuild kit for their newest 1/2" drive (#CMMT99434) torque wrench. That would not be an issue if the wrench had a lifetime warranty, but it only has a 1 year warranty.
 
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pfbz

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I love most Wiha screwdrivers and I love most American made tools, but I don't love that Wiha multi-driver... For me, the handle shape was off and the design was clumsy considering all the cool new multi-offerings from Klein, Wera, and yes even other Wiha drivers.

It seemed like it was existing product long-made by a US manufacturer that got nothing more than the Wiha name and colors put on it. Too harsh?
 

Steve_P

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I love most Wiha screwdrivers and I love most American made tools, but I don't love that Wiha multi-driver... For me, the handle shape was off and the design was clumsy considering all the cool new multi-offerings from Klein, Wera, and yes even other Wiha drivers.

It seemed like it was existing product long-made by a US manufacturer that got nothing more than the Wiha name and colors put on it. Too harsh?

I'm a HUGE Wiha fan, 90% of my drivers are from them. Saying that, I got one of those as a freebee on an order and consider it worth the price I paid :ROFLMAO: It's certainly not total garbage, but it doesn't even whisper quality to me. It seems like something you'd find at Walmart, Lowes, or Home Depot in one of those "impulse buy" cardboard display boxes from a name you've never heard of. I'm sure it's fine for a kitchen drawer tool for some people, but otherwise no.

edit: I've said this multiple times over the years, but Wiha US does some stuff that I definitely don't agree with. This is one of them.
 

willf650

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I love most Wiha screwdrivers and I love most American made tools, but I don't love that Wiha multi-driver... For me, the handle shape was off and the design was clumsy considering all the cool new multi-offerings from Klein, Wera, and yes even other Wiha drivers.

It seemed like it was existing product long-made by a US manufacturer that got nothing more than the Wiha name and colors put on it. Too harsh?
Well Wiha seems to be outsourcing some of their stuff to Vietnam so from an American perspective it's preferable.

I don't know of an American made multi bit screwdriver such as the 11 in 1s from anyone. There are a couple 6 in 1s I'm aware of. Maybe a mega pro but that is just a multi bit screwdriver with no hex sizes.

This Wiha has a thick handle compared to most. You either love it or hate it. Not sure which it is for me yet.

I have so many 11 in 1s it's unreal. I guess I need to collect them all. I was working in the office at the shop for while seldom going into the field and driving my car so my tool bag was in my home garage. Our parts department sells Klein so anytime I needed a screwdriver to make a trip into the field I walked over and grabbed one just did a pay deduction to cover it.
 

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I'm a HUGE Wiha fan, 90% of my drivers are from them. Saying that, I got one of those as a freebee on an order and consider it worth the price I paid :ROFLMAO: It's certainly not total garbage, but it doesn't even whisper quality to me. It seems like something you'd find at Walmart, Lowes, or Home Depot in one of those "impulse buy" cardboard display boxes from a name you've never heard of. I'm sure it's fine for a kitchen drawer tool for some people, but otherwise no.

edit: I've said this multiple times over the years, but Wiha US does some stuff that I definitely don't agree with. This is one of them.
My German made WIha is a favorite.
 

pfbz

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A few recent tool additions...

Capri 120 tooth ratcheting combo wrenches.... I haven't used them much yet, but the design/fit/finish on them is really nice. Love the satin chrome finish, the ratchets are super smooth, good length. Made in Taiwan.

Toolant extra-long double box flex/ratcheting.... I'm new to Toolant tools, and I usually have lower expectations on Chinese tools in general, but damn these seem nice! Big set, 8-24 (minus 20). Really nicely finished, tight swivels, smooth ratchets.... Toolant claims they have a lifetime warranty, but not sure how easy or difficult it might be if one actually breaks.

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pfbz

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Also picked up a few new needle nose pliers.... Some Knipex needle nose ($25, German), Icon SO clones ($14 on sale, Taiwan), and some Quinn pistol grip needle nose ($7 on sale, Vietnam).

I was going to say I wasn't that familiar with Vietnamese made tools, but I seem to recall that Wiha outsources much of their plier production to Vietnam as well and I have several of them.

I wonder if it's like Taiwan where there are a factories that specialize in a particular tool type that make them for many, many different brands.

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TLDR: Stahlwille FastGrip 180s.

These came up for about the same price as a Cobra 180. I give Stahlwille a nod for not making these just “the same but different”. There are many unique attributes.

The flip of the double shear, putting the adjustment slot on the outsides versus the Knipex. It feels a little more chunk, where the Knipex feels as light/nimble as possible. The FastGrip is wider here and could cause clearance grief in some uses. I imagine noticing it less in larger sizes.

The adjustment slot is straight rather than arced. This has a slightly noticeable effect on the bite geometry. Pros/cons: no idea. The FastGrip handles are more ergonomic, so the dipped handle is more comfortable (to me) than dipped Knipex (photos don’t apply since I don’t have dipped cobra in 180).

The FastGrip has very intentional stops for the action. The Cobras just bind up wherever they happen to run into themself. This doesn’t matter but I do like the FastGrips for this.

Lastly, notice that the serrations at the tip of the FastGrip jaws are genuinely meshed when closed. I want to be impressed by that but it’s possibly just luck/chance.

Overall, I like them. I can’t say I see any reason to pay twice what Cobras cost, they seem directly comparable. But if you can get them for similar price and like variety, you won’t be displeased.
 

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Another Stahlwille compared to my most similar Knipex (completely unused so far). I prefer the satin chrome on the Knipex over the polished chrome on the Stahlwille. The green comfort grips are comparable to blue/red comfort Knipex.

Both have really weak serrations, like they want them to be non-marring rather than high traction.

And a cool little hex bit T-handle. It’s got a nicely strong magnet. Hex about 1” deep so it can use a wide range of 1/4” bits like the Japanese ones. The hex tube seems to be extruded aluminum, so it probably isn’t up for decades of punishment, but it’s a smaller handle anyway so won’t see crazy torque. This thing came included free with a PC monitor stand (from secret lab).
 

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pancholasvegas

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Couple new grabs this weekend!

Picked up this 3 Spindle Drill Press at Habitat - $100. Couldn’t help myself - Taiwan and says Sears-Roebuck on the back - don’t see any craftsman badging? Any ideas?

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Runs like a champ - I’m super happy! Will be glad to unload my benchtop model.

Also was hooked up with this awesome Herbrand hammer from @MP&C ! Thanks again Robert! The one next to it is a Ron Covell hammer from trick tools, made in the USA - nice piece! Also got myself the Milwaukee Fuel cordless DA Sander - this thing is a complete game changer and I’m kicking myself for not getting it forever ago. I’m M12 now.

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Taiwan and says Sears-Roebuck on the back - don’t see any craftsman badging? Any ideas?

Not all tools sold by Sears were Craftsman. I have a set of box-end wrenches I bought in the late 80's, made in Japan, they are Sears, but not Craftsman and thus didn't have the lifetime warranty. I forgot about them for a long time (after buying combo wrench sets after that) and I looked at them recently and hey, these are actually pretty precisely made.

I think in the last decade of Sears tools department they had Asian non-CMan tools under the "Evolv" line.

As for your drill press, sorry, I got nothin'!
 

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Not all tools sold by Sears were Craftsman. I have a set of box-end wrenches I bought in the late 80's, made in Japan, they are Sears, but not Craftsman and thus didn't have the lifetime warranty. I forgot about them for a long time (after buying combo wrench sets after that) and I looked at them recently and hey, these are actually pretty precisely made.

I think in the last decade of Sears tools department they had Asian non-CMan tools under the "Evolv" line.

As for your drill press, sorry, I got nothin'!
They also just had "SEARS" tools and the "Companion" low price line too.
 

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Couple new grabs this weekend!

Picked up this 3 Spindle Drill Press at Habitat - $100. Couldn’t help myself - Taiwan and says Sears-Roebuck on the back - don’t see any craftsman badging? Any ideas?

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Runs like a champ - I’m super happy! Will be glad to unload my benchtop model.

Also was hooked up with this awesome Herbrand hammer from @MP&C ! Thanks again Robert! The one next to it is a Ron Covell hammer from trick tools, made in the USA - nice piece! Also got myself the Milwaukee Fuel cordless DA Sander - this thing is a complete game changer and I’m kicking myself for not getting it forever ago. I’m M12 now.

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With the chair under your drill press... Have You studied the practice of trephination? Drilling holes in someone's skull? Its an interesting skill/hobby.
 
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