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went in to buy some setscrews for mortise lock knobs, ended up buying some Wiss snips for ONE DOLLAR :)
 

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Drove to Richmond this morning to pick up this Festool Kapex KS120REB and swung by the craft beer place and got some new stuff. $1,500 saw and $250 in beer. ‘‘Twas a good day.


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Buying tools myself for the first time... This is what I ended up with. I payed 350€ (around $380) including shipping (almost $19) for all the items.

This is my whole order:

Pliers
1 Knipex - 02 01 180 - High Leverage Combination Pliers, 180 mm
1 Knipex - 74 01 180 - High Leverage Diagonal Cutter, 180 mm
1 Knipex - 86 03 180 - Pliers Wrench, 180 mm

Screwdrivers
1 PB Swiss Tools - 249 - Classic screwdriverset, Slotted/Phillips/Pozidriv, 12 pieces
1 PB Swiss Tools - 192.0-60 - Classic screwdriver, Pozidriv size 0, blade 60 mm
1 PB Swiss Tools - 192.3-150 - Classic screwdriver, Pozidriv size 3, blade 150 mm

Hex keys
1 PB Swiss Tools - 212.LH-10 RB - Rainbow L-key set, long, Inbus with ball end 1,5 to 10 mm

Hammer
1 PB Swiss Tools - 303.3 - Nylon hammer, without rebound, size 3 (32 mm)
1 PB Swiss Tools - 300.C 3 - Spare plastic head with hardened steel insert, size 3

Bit related items
1 PB Swiss Tools - 8451.10-30 M ESD - Swissgrip ESD handle with magnetic bitholder for 1/4" bits
3 PB Swiss Tools - 970.Leer - BitBlock without bits for C6/E6.97x set, red
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/5 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T5
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/6 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T6
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/7 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T7
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/8 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/9 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T9
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/10 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T10
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/15 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T15
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/20 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T20
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/25 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T25
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/27 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T27
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/30 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T30
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/40 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T40

Other tools
1 PB Swiss Tools - 630.60 - Bradawl light-duty, round 4 mm
1 PB Swiss Tools - 820.3 - Electricians flat chisel, 10 mm, 250 mm long

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Buying tools myself for the first time... This is what I ended up with.

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Gezginite, wonderful choices. i'm sure you'll really enjoy using them for years to come.

re: knipex pliers wrench
one of my favorite tools. but usually you need at least two wrenches. one to hold the work piece still, and another to twist.

i suggest getting the pliers wrench trinity. you already got the 180mm, so consider getting the 150mm and 250mm sizes as well. i use all three regularly in normal household things.

try the multi-component comfort grips! i love them.
86 05 150
86 05 250

also, in tight spaces, sometimes you need a fixed wrench. the downside of pliers wrenches is that you need to grip them tightly closed. so maybe get an adjustable open-end wrench to free up at least part of a hand to handle a part or connector.
 
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Gezginite, wonderful choices. i'm sure you'll really enjoy using them for years to come.

re: knipex pliers wrench
one of my favorite tools. but usually you need at least two wrenches. one to hold the work piece still, and another to twist.

i suggest getting the pliers wrench trinity. you already got the 180mm, so consider getting the 150mm and 250mm sizes as well. i use all three regularly in normal household things.

try the multi-component comfort grips! i love them.
86 05 150
86 05 250

also, in tight spaces, sometimes you need a fixed wrench. the downside of pliers wrenches is that you need to grip them tightly closed. so maybe get an adjustable open-end wrench to free up at least part of a hand to handle a part or connector.

Thanks for the feedback.
I actually have some tools my father passed down to me (he did not want or had duplicates of) when I moved out:

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1. Good tools
· PB Swiss flat screwdriver size 2
· PB Swiss flat screwdriver size 00
· PB swiss parallel pin punches, octagonal (2x one older)
· Knipex Alligator® Water Pump Pliers 180mm (88 01 180)
· Knipex Flat Nose Pliers with cutting edges (Precision Mechanics Pliers) 160mm (23 01 140) - Not sure if it is exact one

2. Good tools with no brand
3. Usable but not recommendable tools (especially not the level, have to buy a real one eventually)

Regarding your feedback I must be honest and say I have never meet a problem that my 180mm wrench was not able to fix. I bought the 86 05 180 since it would nice to have when unscrewing the head of the tip of the faucet on the sink without making any marks (which the Knipex Alligator® Water Pump Pliers 180mm do since it have teeth).

I tried the multi-component comfort at my dads, but (in my opinion) it gets more bulky why I prefer the "classic" ones.

With that said, I really do appreciate the feedback
 

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Thanks for the feedback.
I actually have some tools my father passed down to me (he did not want or had duplicates of) when I moved out:

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I added some explanation too (just if some was interested)

1. Good tools
· PB Swiss flat screwdriver size 2
· PB Swiss flat screwdriver size 00
· PB swiss parallel pin punches, octagonal (2x one older)
· Knipex Alligator® Water Pump Pliers 180mm (88 01 180)
· Knipex Flat Nose Pliers with cutting edges (Precision Mechanics Pliers) 160mm (23 01 140) - Not sure if it is exact one

2. Good tools with no brand
3. Usable but not recommendable tools (especially not the level, have to buy a real one eventually)

Regarding your feedback I must be honest and say I have never meet a problem that my 180mm wrench was not able to fix. I bought the 86 05 180 since it would nice to have when unscrewing the head of the tip of the faucet on the sink without making any marks (which the Knipex Alligator® Water Pump Pliers 180mm do since it have teeth).

I tried the multi-component comfort at my dads, but (in my opinion) it gets more bulky why I prefer the "classic" ones.

With that said, I really do appreciate the feedback

ah, very good. my feedback was made under the assumption that those were your only tools. i see that you already have two adjustable open-end wrenches and the knipex alligator, so you are all set. i will add that i used to primarily use this kind of wrench, but once i got the pliers wrench, i really fell in love. pliers wrench is always the first wrench i reach for now. a shortcoming of most adjustable wrenches is that there is some play (wiggle room) in the adjustment, and especially in higher torque applications, this can cause damage to the workpiece. as you probably know, the pliers wrench makes full contact along the face, and you basically never get any slippage or rounding because of the full-face contact pressure. as a bonus, you can usually loosen your grip and advance to the next section kind of like a ratchet. the only downside to this tool is that it completely occupies your hand. you can't lean on it or use your elbow or something like with a normal wrench.

but.. maybe consider getting a second tongue and groove pliers in case you need to grip two round things (like screwing a round coupler onto a round pipe). knipex cobra is my top choice.
 
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My Trusty Cook order came in yesterday, but couldn't get to it until today. I ordered the Mechanic's Bundle:
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And a bonus...
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I have a drawer in my chest I refer to as "hit something with a hammer" - I'm still getting used to where things are in the new chest. Today swept several things out
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And Stubby's Cousin goes in the cart, replacing two hammers
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I blame all of you...



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Gezginite

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ah, very good. my feedback was made under the assumption that those were your only tools. i see that you already have two adjustable open-end wrenches and the knipex alligator, so you are all set. i will add that i used to primarily use this kind of wrench, but once i got the pliers wrench, i really fell in love. pliers wrench is always the first wrench i reach for now. a shortcoming of most adjustable wrenches is that there is some play (wiggle room) in the adjustment, and especially in higher torque applications, this can cause damage to the workpiece. as you probably know, the pliers wrench makes full contact along the face, and you basically never get any slippage or rounding because of the full-face contact pressure. as a bonus, you can usually loosen your grip and advance to the next section kind of like a ratchet. the only downside to this tool is that it completely occupies your hand. you can't lean on it or use your elbow or something like with a normal wrench.
Could not agree more


but.. maybe consider getting a second tongue and groove pliers in case you need to grip two round things (like screwing a round coupler onto a round pipe). knipex cobra is my top choice.
I guess a second tongue and groove plier (with teeth) would be useful.
I consider getting rid of the adjustable wrenches due to the wobble as you also mention - what are you thoughts? Should i keep them, if I get a second tongue and groove plier?

I actually prefer the alligator over the cobra - My dad have both, so he let me choice one of them.
(for the folks who do not know the difference between the two pliers, the main difference is that the Cobra has the quick adjust feature (a spring loaded button the protrudes out just a bit), while the alligator is manual adjustment which in my opinion is one less thing to get caught on (without it), since there are no mechanical parts on the alligators)
 

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While restoring the first BMX I ever purchased (back in 99'), I realized I needed a few new tools for some BMX specific parts (I mostly work on MTBs).

First to come in is this 4 prong freewheel tool from Park.

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oh. and one more thought on the pliers wrench. often for a given fastener or whatever, there's a couple of settings that will work and allow you to grip and make contact. imo, what works best is to adjust to the widest setting that still allows you to grip correctly. this makes the pliers handles closer together when full contact happens, and then it's easier to grip with your hand. your hand is not as open.

I guess a second tongue and groove plier (with teeth) would be useful.
I consider getting rid of the adjustable wrenches due to the wobble as you also mention - what are you thoughts? Should i keep them, if I get a second tongue and groove plier?

well... unlike pliers wrench, once you get it started, the alligator will grip without occupying your entire hand. you can lean on it, use your foot, your chin, your elbow, whatever. so that's a good thing :)

but alligator will chew up the fastener or workpiece. for something round like a pipe, there is not much choice. but for gripping a hexagonal thing, i always prefer to use pliers wrench or real wrench instead of tongue-and-groove pliers.

so although getting a second alligator is a very good idea i think (otherwise working with two round things is impossible), imo you still need an actual wrench. either adjustable like you have or a set of fixed wrenches. if you don't really want to get a set of fixed open-end wrenches, consider at some point investing in a nicer adjustable one. nice ones have less wobble than really bad ones. unless you have a full set of fixed open-end wrenches, imo you still need an adjustable.
 
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New tools for my rc losi 5t 2.0
Carlyle precision screwdrivers
Carlyle ball end t-handles
Hf cordless $7 dollars
Monster precision pliers
Apex screwdriver bits
 

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I wasn't impressed with either the Knipex combination plier or the diagonal cutters. The only diagonal cutters that I did like from Knipex is the 250mm (74 01 250) otherwise I stick to my Irwin Powerslot (NWS Fantastico under Irwin's name). The combination pliers are also European style so they don't grip as well as the New England/Lineman style pliers they offer (and I'd rather buy an Engineer PZ-78 which is a better combination/lineman than the 02 01 180 with screw removal as well)

Diagonal cutter: The diagonal cutter is 180mm (74 01 180), so just a smaller version of the 250mm (74 01 250). I do not really cut big steel wires, but I’ll have that in mind if the current one fails and it seems to be relevant in the future.

Combination plier: I honestly just bought the european version because the one I had before was a european, but I'll note that a Linesman is better if I am going to buy a new one.

Alligators are easier to adjust and for those who are used to Channellock brand style Tongue and Groove it's very easy to work with them. Also under certain conditions the Cobras will jam or lock up when there is dirt or other foreign object debris that can possibly interfere with the button or mechanism.

In America the equivalent of the Alligators is the Channellock Griplock (similar style jaws and shape) which are quite compatible with the Alligators. I do think though that if you are working with water pump pliers it's usually good to have two on hand (one to hold, the other to do adjustments)

I might get one more of those tongue and groove plier.

oh. and one more thought on the pliers wrench. often for a given fastener or whatever, there's a couple of settings that will work and allow you to grip and make contact. imo, what works best is to adjust to the widest setting that still allows you to grip correctly. this makes the pliers handles closer together when full contact happens, and then it's easier to grip with your hand. your hand is not as open.

well... unlike pliers wrench, once you get it started, the alligator will grip without occupying your entire hand. you can lean on it, use your foot, your chin, your elbow, whatever. so that's a good thing :)

but alligator will chew up the fastener or workpiece. for something round like a pipe, there is not much choice. but for gripping a hexagonal thing, i always prefer to use pliers wrench or real wrench instead of tongue-and-groove pliers.

so although getting a second alligator is a very good idea i think (otherwise working with two round things is impossible), imo you still need an actual wrench. either adjustable like you have or a set of fixed wrenches. if you don't really want to get a set of fixed open-end wrenches, consider at some point investing in a nicer adjustable one. nice ones have less wobble than really bad ones. unless you have a full set of fixed open-end wrenches, imo you still need an adjustable.

I see... I would prefer to keep the set as neat and small as possible so is there ay adjustable wrenches you would recommend?
 

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I would prefer to keep the set as neat and small as possible so is there ay adjustable wrenches you would recommend?

adjustable wrenches are a compromise in convenience and storage space, but i always thought they were really ****. that's because i only had the cheapest possible $2 china junk ones.

then i saw nicer ones like cannellock 8WCB "WIDEAZZ" https://www.channellock.com/product/8wcb/
fine tooth adjustment, opens extra wide, much less slop than the very low quality ones

then i found that it was made by irega. take a look at their catalog. i think they make some nice ones.

bahco is what i ended up buying though.
i have a 9031, and i can recommend this wrench. it is in their "wide opening" line. like the channellock/irega, it has nice, fine tooth adjustment, and the jaw opens pretty wide (38mm).

my top recommendation is probably the chrome version of that wrench. bahco 9031 C
might as well splurge for the chrome for some extra corrosion resistance. less maintenance to prevent rusting.

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you could also try making a thread asking for adjustable wrench recommendations
 
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This morning, Chris Cassidy used an adjustable wrench and a DOE to stow some bits on one of the hatches for the Endeavor docking.

Video here:

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adjustable wrenches are a compromise in convenience and storage space, but i always thought they were really ****. that's because i only had the cheapest possible $2 china junk ones.

then i saw nicer ones like cannellock 8WCB "WIDEAZZ" https://www.channellock.com/product/8wcb/
fine tooth adjustment, opens extra wide, much less slop than the very low quality ones

then i found that it was made by irega. take a look at their catalog. i think they make some nice ones.

bahco is what i ended up buying though.
i have a 9031, and i can recommend this wrench. it is in their "wide opening" line. like the channellock/irega, it has nice, fine tooth adjustment, and the jaw opens pretty wide (38mm).

my top recommendation is probably the chrome version of that wrench. bahco 9031 C
might as well splurge for the chrome for some extra corrosion resistance. less maintenance to prevent rusting.

you could also try making a thread asking for adjustable wrench recommendations

Think I'll will look at Irega catalogue and make a thread I gather some more knowledge :D Thanks a lot.
 

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Buying tools myself for the first time... This is what I ended up with.

Screwdrivers
1 PB Swiss Tools - 249 - Classic screwdriverset, Slotted/Phillips/Pozidriv, 12 pieces
1 PB Swiss Tools - 192.0-60 - Classic screwdriver, Pozidriv size 0, blade 60 mm
1 PB Swiss Tools - 192.3-150 - Classic screwdriver, Pozidriv size 3, blade 150 mm

My absolute favorite screwdriver line. I don't see much Pozidriv in the states, but on the rare occasion, I have enjoyed having my PB Swiss drivers. :thumbup:
 
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Foam lined storage box, Beta long reach wrenches, Knipex ES & Engineer PZ-60.

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Even though this isn't new (warranty replacement), I definitely consider it a tool and happy to have it arrive! I wasn't sure when it would show up, but I just happened to bring a giant slab of ribs home...
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(4-probe grill thermometer - can measure the grill grate temp and track three pieces of meat - very useful...)
 

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380 shipped nib from ebay.... now I need those cool red boots...e1358f880fd1f83177d1f938eeafa99d.jpg

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I ordered these Williams MWS-12RC 12-Piece Metric Reversible Ratcheting Combination Wrench Set from ToolsDelivered.com. I was tired of jerking around with missing sizes.
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Yesterday I picked up a Bosch JS365 to replace my old B&D. Today the same store put the JS470E on clearance for $8 more than the 365 cost me, so I traded in and upgraded to the 470. Paired it with an 11- piece set of Bosch blades that included a "free" carbide one, although I already have a 15-blade set at home, but wanted the carbide one for cutting laminate flooring. All I can say is what a difference it makes having the right tools for the job (two days ago I was cutting laminate using a small grinder with a diamond wheel). Effective but PÍA. And a couple weeks ago picked up a Dewalt DWS779 miter saw. It's pretty sweet.
 

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I got tired again of missing sizes, and issues with a few wrenches, so I ordered these from Zoro and took advantage of a discount code.

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