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geotek

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Ok so this has been rattling around in my research list for a while and figured it's time to check in and get some input.

Background: Starting next year I'll be able to start work on my garage rebuild. I cannot increase the size of the garage because it'll increase my taxes too much so that the project is just a rebuild/rehab.

Scope: (1) Add car port off of side of garage: (2) Full driveway replacement either with asphalt, concrete or (less likely) pavers; (3) Replace garage floor (want to add lift but height won't allow); and (4) Replace garage door.

Question: Because I live in the northeast, carriage doors won't work well for me, but I still want something interesting. I can go with a typical overhead door but came across side opening doors Such as by Breda, Rundum and others, that look very cool, but these appear to be all European companies and distributers. My local door installers don't know what I'm talking about. I want to get a Side Sectional (which looks to be like an overhead door turned on its side) but haven't been able to find a US distributer.

Since I have to replace the floor anyway, this is a great opportunity since I'll have to put in a lower track guide. My goal will be to install the door and then build a false wall to hide most of the door when it's open (and allow me to hang yard tools).

Does anyone out there have one, or know of a supplier, especially if in the NY, PA, VT, MA, CT,NH areas? Also, thoughts, comments, insights, etc.?


http://www.thegaragedoorcentre.co.uk/roundthecornerdoors.php



 
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Pretty cool but the false wall you spoke of would eat up space and would make it a pain to service the door, if necessary. Also, you're driving over the lower track with vehicles constantly. Might run into problems with small rock getting in the track and causing malfunctions.

I'd just find a cool overhead sectional door or overhead rollup (if you've got the headroom).
 
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Wow, I had no idea that they took up so much room.

Ducksface: I haven't tried the overseas number yet, but I guess that'll be next on the list. Where they US installations? Where were they?

Mtmgtz: I was wrestling with the servicing issue. I was thinking of setting the wall in panels with bolts instead of nails/screws, to make it removable in the event that the door needs to be service. (I know its a bit of extra work but some of the coolest builds on GJ tend to be a bit impractical at first).

Currently I have carriage doors which makes winter a PIA, so the cars end up outside. Headroom is a bit of an issue so I'd almost end up with a roll-up door (which I don't want to do if I don't have to).
 
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There are reasons they're not commonly used.

- Major loss of wall space. If you hide them behind false walls, you're losing square footage.
- Debris in the floor track. I see this as a huge drawback. That track will fill with stuff, and any pebbles / rocks, etc. are going to cause premature wear to the rollers.
- Serviceability. Doors like this are bound to be hard to repair and adjust, and if your local garage door guys don't have the expertise. you're S-O-L.

Just because something's new and different, doesn't make it better, or more practical.
 
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As a recovering upstate New Yorker (Schuylerville) I suspect that those would be every bit as annoying in the winter as carriage house doors. I can envision the lower track getting filled with snow and water which would, no doubt turn to ice. I love the looks of carriage house doors but I like being able to get through them all year round even more.
 
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geotek said:
Ok so this has been rattling around in my research list for a while and figured it's time to check in and get some input.

Background: Starting next year I'll be able to start work on my garage rebuild. I cannot increase the size of the garage because it'll increase my taxes too much so that the project is just a rebuild/rehab.
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I see people on here comment this on occasion and really do wonder. You want something, but don't want to pay the price, and most likely, you probably haven't even looked into the actual increase in the tax on your place as a result.

What kind of increase do you expect to see when they see you added a carport, a driveway, and a complete rehab of the building?

Have you considered jacking it to make it taller, if you are dead set on not replacing the building?

Charles
 
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When I added a fully outfitted 24x24 shop to my lot, my taxs went up a whole $200.00
This was with face brick, which they added on for.

If it worries you, call your county assessor office.
The ladies will have a formula that they can use to give you what your increase will be.
 
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The car port will not change my taxes because its not considered a permanently enclosed structure, but doubling the size of the garage will bump my taxes between $600 and $700 according to the assessor, which is in addition to $9k/yr I already pay for my less than 1/4 acre. My county has some of the highest taxes in NY outside of the NYC area. Hell I even grieved my taxes this year since the markets is about $30k lower than when I bought, and the assessor refused to lower them. (that's a topic for another thread).

The driveway doesn't add anything to my assessment. Which is why I wanted to couple that with a car port. I can get my car covered, I get my wife's car out of the weather, and don't have to dive through my lawn when my wife's car blocks me.

Jacking up the garage is an option, however its already a narrow garage, so it'll really start to look weird, plus I'll have to add additional wall height to the sides, back and front.

The reason for shying away from a complete replacement is that I'll still have to replace the slab and then add the cost of a new building. O and the new garage will be viewed by the assessor as an improvement and my taxes go up even if I keep the same footprint.

I've begun looking into some of the prefabbed buildings (Amish build, etc) with the idea, that I could have it built so that once it's placed, I can remove the floor and be back to the slab. BTW the walls sit on a 18" tall concrete sill around the perimeter. BUT I still have the issue of new slab, and higher taxes because its a new structure.

A lot of this is just repairing 80+ years of wear and tear, spiffing it up, making it more usable without breaking the bank and getting a cool door in the process.
 
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