rwilly
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Just signed the papers to get a 28 X 64 garage built with 10’ walls.
It’s been a long time coming.
It’s been a long time coming.
Signed the papers. 28X64x10
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James-W
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Will this structure be wood or metal? With the current high cost of building materials how much has this added to the cost of construction?
It’s wood.
2X6 studs.
The contractor said the material with glue, OSB, T 1 11, plywood, is what is really up in cost, more so than dimensional lumber.
I asked if the final cost will drop, if the material costs
Drop.
He said it would.
I’ll be surprised if my price goes down though.
I don’t know what the cost would’ve been a few years ago.
2X6 studs.
The contractor said the material with glue, OSB, T 1 11, plywood, is what is really up in cost, more so than dimensional lumber.
I asked if the final cost will drop, if the material costs
Drop.
He said it would.
I’ll be surprised if my price goes down though.
I don’t know what the cost would’ve been a few years ago.
firebirdparts
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That's a biggie! I hope you have a ton of fun!
nadogail
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May you get lots of enjoyment from your big garage, while living in good health.
I have cousins in Washington, they seem to enjoy the rain.
I have cousins in Washington, they seem to enjoy the rain.
Unless it's a flat roof, it probably won't be a problem. My 12' lift fits just fine in my shop with 9' walls. Peak is about 15'. 64' = plenty of choices where to put the columns!
GRivera
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Congrats! Any reason you didn't choose 32' x 64' to take advantage of the 8' dimensional lumber? Oh - I second the 12' walls - room to grow!!
niget2002
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My shop is a 26x50x10'
I did not design my shop. It was on the property when we moved here. The extra 14' in length would be nice.
One thing I keep wanting to add that a little extra height would help is a loft for storage. Everything I have in the shop is stored on shelves along the walls. My larger tool collection keeps growing every so often and I find that some of that storage would be really nice if it was not taking up wall space.
I can make it work with the 10', but it'll give me an area of the shop with an 8' ceiling. Not horrible by any means, but I'll have to rearrange the shop to accommodate.
Good luck with your build. Looking forward to pictures as things progress.
Poop!
Nothing but delays and “Covid” prices!
I’m not very happy with the guys doing my shop, now I have to a Wetlands Report done before I go any further. What was supposed to be started by September is now looking more like next spring, that’s if I decide to continue.
To those who have had a Ecological Study done on their property, what was the cost and timeframe? I had one Company quote a “retainer fee” of $4K. That’s ludicrous!
Thanks
Nothing but delays and “Covid” prices!
I’m not very happy with the guys doing my shop, now I have to a Wetlands Report done before I go any further. What was supposed to be started by September is now looking more like next spring, that’s if I decide to continue.
To those who have had a Ecological Study done on their property, what was the cost and timeframe? I had one Company quote a “retainer fee” of $4K. That’s ludicrous!
Thanks
Pluribus
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Yikes! I used, and would recommend, Altmann Oliver Associates (John Altmann) for a wetland study that covered a pretty large area with multiple locations of concern, including one called out by the county. This was less than five years ago, and it cost a TOTAL of $880. That's the invoice I have, and I don't think I had to pay any retainer or upfront fee. They're in Carnation, so I'm assuming they'd be willing to do Maple Valley. He was willing to spend some time talking with me afterwards to explain things, too. Before calling, you should double check to make sure they're still on the county "approved" list.
On the plus side, you won't be building at peak pandemic lumber pricing! On the (really!) negative side, you're not going to have a shop this winter.
On the plus side, you won't be building at peak pandemic lumber pricing! On the (really!) negative side, you're not going to have a shop this winter.
The Frisco Kid
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We need some pics!!
Docbentley
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If you have your permit, why do you have to have a wetlands study now?
Good question!
I’ve got a call into the county so I can speak directly with the permit office.
The builder emailed me a few weeks ago saying the county needed the study done. When I go to county website it says “Waiting for customer info” It’s frustrating, they can allow 80 homes to be built on the other side of the creek and I gotta jump through hoops just to have a box built on my land.
Makes me think it’s just not worth it.
After all, when I sell this place,
I’m sure a developer will come in and raze my structures so they can build 8-10 houses on the land.
I’ve got a call into the county so I can speak directly with the permit office.
The builder emailed me a few weeks ago saying the county needed the study done. When I go to county website it says “Waiting for customer info” It’s frustrating, they can allow 80 homes to be built on the other side of the creek and I gotta jump through hoops just to have a box built on my land.
Makes me think it’s just not worth it.
After all, when I sell this place,
I’m sure a developer will come in and raze my structures so they can build 8-10 houses on the land.
Ok, they have started.
It’s going to be a long, drawn out build.
I’ll chronicle the build and give an opinion of the final product. So far, I’m not impressed.
Today they scraped a few inches of topsoil off the site. They put 5/8” minus down and will return tomorrow and Monday to put the concrete forms together.
It’s going to be a long, drawn out build.
I’ll chronicle the build and give an opinion of the final product. So far, I’m not impressed.
Today they scraped a few inches of topsoil off the site. They put 5/8” minus down and will return tomorrow and Monday to put the concrete forms together.
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I already feel like it’s too small. lol
I’ve got 2 modern vehicles and 5 older vehicles.
I didn’t expect to get them all under 1 roof, but now that I’ve walked the slab……
I was limited to a certain amount of SF, or I would’ve had more permits and hoops to jump through.
Im very excited to get this up and get some stuff inside out of the weather, and be able to work on things.
I already feel like it’s too small. lol
I’ve got 2 modern vehicles and 5 older vehicles.
I didn’t expect to get them all under 1 roof, but now that I’ve walked the slab……
I was limited to a certain amount of SF, or I would’ve had more permits and hoops to jump through.
Im very excited to get this up and get some stuff inside out of the weather, and be able to work on things.
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Professor Fate
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They always feel small at that point. I warn my clients about it.
dcg9381
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PFFFt.. (price reduction)
What does your contract say? If it really DOES work that way, then your contract will have a "materials allowance" or similar. It'll also mean if prices go up, contract price goes up. Can't have it both ways in my experience.
Firebrick43
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I wouldnt
CombatNinja
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You think it looks too small and to me it looks huuuuge. As in, I would have to walk across the shop to see what's laying on a bench on the other side. I can see the garage door openings and what looks like a service door with the little landing, but what are the openings just in between? Makes no sense for them to be more service doors but they look too small to be roll up doors.
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ITGuy1998
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I've built both of my houses, and at the slab stage I thought - wow this really isn't as big as I thought it would be. Then the walls start going up and it really does feel bigger.
olytdi
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I didn't see your build post until today. I'm down in Olympia.
I feel your pain.
I put my permit application in with the county on my 36X48 pole barn in 2019. Had to hire a certified wetland biologist to do a wetland delineation then I had to pay for a public hearing for a reasonable use exception due to my property being in the buffer of five surrounding wetlands. That all took about $10K and two years. I finally paid another $5K for the building permit and to pay for the Judge, the hearing, all of the public mailings, and county staff time required to facilitate raking me over the coals and give me the permit anyway. Last year, I got the permit contingent on a mitigation plan that will cost another couple of thousand to install and which required a $2K bond that I could potentially get back in 5 years after submitting annual reports. So, not a thing yet done and I'm in for just under $20K.
Now I've been waiting for the last year for my builder (who had moved on to other projects) to begin the build and the site has now been prepped and is ready for building. The material costs since the original bid two-and-a-half years ago, have increased about 70%, the price of gravel has doubled (I had to bring in about 240 yds), and the two 10x10 overhead garage doors alone went from $4K to $7.5K installed (that's after the 3 month wait to get them).
The builder has been very helpful in that he didn't increase the labor costs from that which he originally bid -- I've just had to pay current materials prices which, as you know, are insane.
It should be up and structurally finished in the next 3 weeks or so and it will have cost well over $100K for a flipping pole building with no electricity, plumbing, and heat.
The world has gone crazy. I feel your pain!
I feel your pain.
I put my permit application in with the county on my 36X48 pole barn in 2019. Had to hire a certified wetland biologist to do a wetland delineation then I had to pay for a public hearing for a reasonable use exception due to my property being in the buffer of five surrounding wetlands. That all took about $10K and two years. I finally paid another $5K for the building permit and to pay for the Judge, the hearing, all of the public mailings, and county staff time required to facilitate raking me over the coals and give me the permit anyway. Last year, I got the permit contingent on a mitigation plan that will cost another couple of thousand to install and which required a $2K bond that I could potentially get back in 5 years after submitting annual reports. So, not a thing yet done and I'm in for just under $20K.
Now I've been waiting for the last year for my builder (who had moved on to other projects) to begin the build and the site has now been prepped and is ready for building. The material costs since the original bid two-and-a-half years ago, have increased about 70%, the price of gravel has doubled (I had to bring in about 240 yds), and the two 10x10 overhead garage doors alone went from $4K to $7.5K installed (that's after the 3 month wait to get them).
The builder has been very helpful in that he didn't increase the labor costs from that which he originally bid -- I've just had to pay current materials prices which, as you know, are insane.
It should be up and structurally finished in the next 3 weeks or so and it will have cost well over $100K for a flipping pole building with no electricity, plumbing, and heat.
The world has gone crazy. I feel your pain!
quakerj
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The world has not gone crazy; where you live has gone crazy. I hear these stories and wonder why people don't move?
olytdi
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Well...for a number of reasons: I love the land and people here, I've lived in the area for 35 years, I work here, and I just bought this place in 2018! Took 2 years of looking for a new property/home daily in three counties before I came across my current home. It takes years for me to recover from moving (haven't fully settled in yet here and am on year 4), and as I'm in my 60s. I don't look forward to moving again!
jarhead
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Looking good!
