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Does it absolutely need to be silicone? super lube has a 00 grease that is like thick oil but is not silicone based even though its feels and looks as though it is.
 

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Not knowing what the application is I can say that the RC car hobby uses silicone oils in various weights to tune and adjust the shock absorbers. So if that fits your needs then check out the hobby shop that caters to the RC car people.

OP, can you give us a bit more information than what you have given?

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Thank you for the ideas, guys. I need it for something totally unrelated to mechanical work or personal lubrication. :)
 
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Their silicone base formulation is only available in NLGI 2 that I can find unlike their multipurpose synthetic grease which is available in lighter viscosities.

Funny coincidence this thread pops up today, as I just got in some packets of Superlube's NLGI 00 lube (same NLGI lube Snap-on sends with their ratchet rebuild kits) today. This 00 lube is a little harder to find than the tubes they sell everywhere, but they can be had for under $1 each (plus shipping). I order them a few dozen at a time from RS Hughes. The number after the / (/00) indicates the NLGI number.


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Somebody gave me a sample of an even better lubricant for my purposes. Unfortunately, it's long out of production. It was made by Bosworth company for dentistry and called Masque.

It's a silicon lubricant/coating agent that creates thin quite resistant to water film. The consistency is hard to describe. It's a transparent rubbery jelly. If you ever had a chance to touch live jellyfish, it fees similar. You can smear it in a very thin film which will stay on a surface way better than vaseline or any "regular" lubricant we use in our workshops, and it's not messy. When you touch it, it leaves a thin long lasting slick film on your skin.
 

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Somebody gave me a sample of an even better lubricant for my purposes. Unfortunately, it's long out of production. It was made by Bosworth company for dentistry and called Masque.

It's a silicon lubricant/coating agent that creates thin quite resistant to water film. The consistency is hard to describe. It's a transparent rubbery jelly. If you ever had a chance to touch live jellyfish, it fees similar. You can smear it in a very thin film which will stay on a surface way better than vaseline or any "regular" lubricant we use in our workshops, and it's not messy. When you touch it, it leaves a thin long lasting slick film on your skin.
Coincidentally, I have an odd file handle--apparently made for draw-filing--that's labeled a File-EZE. Looking that up on the interwebby thing got me... dental lubricant. Might try that.
 

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Thank you for the ideas, guys. I need it for something totally unrelated to mechanical work or personal lubrication. :)
it would probably help a lot more if you actually gave some information on what you're trying to accomplish, rather than a vague request for suggestions.

Is 4 too much? how long is a string?
 
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I need to prevent sticking of acrylics and composite resins while they're cured to various surfaces in moist environment. Exactly what the above mentioned Masque product was made for. So I need to find a substitute for Masque.
 
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It serves the same purpose (separating/releasing media), but it should not affect setting of those materials I mentioned, be able to stay in a very thin layer and withstand moisture while the materials get cured. It should also allow for an easy cleanup without leaving any traces on the surface. Alcohol would be an acceptable cleaner, but nothing like harsh chemicals (acetone or other industrial solvents). Vaseline works, but not very well. Silicon, as a type of material, is ideal. The problem is to find a correct form of it. Masque is perfect.
 
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Why do you want a thick consistency type product for what you are doing? Wouldn't a thinner product actually be better? Perhaps I'm not visualizing what you are actually doing.

There is a slew of products called "mold release agents" specifically designed for what you described.
 
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Anything thin I tried didn't stay well on the surface in moist environment and often didn't prevent sticking.
I'll try to look deeper into mold release agents. Thank you.
 

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Swimming pool stores have a clear viscous silicone lube for o-rings in small 1oz sizes. They have a thick paste in a small tub and larger tubes, too. Rainbow brand, IIRC. Definitely not the same as SuperLube mentioned above.
 

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It should also allow for an easy cleanup without leaving any traces on the surface.

Silicone lube/release is nearly impossible to remove from material. It can't be used in many applications due to the issues it causes in paint and secondary bonding.

I've worked in environments where it is "banned" due to the risk of containing the facility, as you can't get rid of it
 
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Silicone lube/release is nearly impossible to remove from material. It can't be used in many applications due to the issues it causes in paint and additional bonding.

I've worked in environments where it is "banned" due to the risk of containing the facility, as you can't get rid of it
Infinitely immiscible was the phrase someone used here (probably incorrectly). You just push it around forever, it won't pick up with towels 100%. Nothing breaks it down. You have to hope to wear it down, without tracking it all over the shop.

The things you learn with a 5L tub of the 5000 cst in lab.
 
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Silicone lube/release is nearly impossible to remove from material. It can't be used in many applications due to the issues it causes in paint and secondary bonding.

I've worked in environments where it is "banned" due to the risk of containing the facility, as you can't get rid of it
Secondary bonding is paramount for my application. I don't know the exact content of Masque, but they called it silicon, and it's super easy to remove completely to allow bonding to the surface.

I was going to try Trident silicone lube for gaskets and Super Lube liquid gasket lube, but you made me worried.
 

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Secondary bonding is paramount for my application. I don't know the exact content of Masque, but they called it silicon, and it's super easy to remove completely to allow bonding to the surface.

I was going to try Trident silicone lube for gaskets and Super Lube liquid gasket lube, but you made me worried.

Can you tell us more about what you're doing?
 
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Some biologic experiments with bone and similar tissues: taking impressions of it with composite resins and self-curing acrylics and then bonding other materials to the tissues.
 
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Some biologic experiments with bone and similar tissues: taking impressions of it with composite resins and self-curing acrylics and then bonding other materials to the tissues.
Whoever the supplier is for your resins will have compatible mold releases to go with them.

You're not inventing a new process here. You may have a new application for it, but this kind of molding is nothing new.

If this is for medical appliances, silicone is probably right out.
 
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The materials were not formulated for molding purposes. They're for bonding/gluing. So the standard answer will be "just use Vaseline".
Been there.
 

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What about a wax? I think we use waxes as mold release agents at work, when curing composites.

What about a sheet of material? Maybe something elastomeric? We have a material we call “Shinitzu” (never seen in written) which is like a silicone rubber.
 
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