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amishman

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So, two months ago I started the process of getting a 20x20 garage built on my property. I am having it professionally built and installed. It is a metal garage 20x20 with 10 foot sidewall and 12 pitch roof. Will complement our home and give me more space to park and work on my rides. I get the engineering drawings from the installer but need to now get ready for the permit stuff. I guess I am required for the state of California to provide 11x17 Site Plan to show my home and its measurement to the new garage and I guess property line dimensions and all that. Not sure how and what to do since I live on 10 acres but curious if anyone here knows of a site I can learn about how I do this. Not sure how in the heck I can measure some of these things but I will try. It is amazing how much you have to do to add a simple small garage. Anyway, any guidance would be great. I did pick up a permit package and will use my installer to take it in for me and get it all passed but he said he needs a site plan and that is something I needed to do. I guess there are pros that can do this but maybe this is something I can do with some guidance.

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tj
 
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twostory

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If you have a survey of your property, showing the entire lot, with the house and driveway, etc. You can just copy this drawing and draw the footprint of your new building.

If you reciently bought the property, your loan company probably had a new survey draw, you should have received a copy.

The permit people need to know how big your new building footprint is and were it will exist on your property. This is the only way they can check setback issues and such.
 
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amishman

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twostory said:
If you have a survey of your property, showing the entire lot, with the house and driveway, etc. You can just copy this drawing and draw the footprint of your new building.

If you reciently bought the property, your loan company probably had a new survey draw, you should have received a copy.

The permit people need to know how big your new building footprint is and were it will exist on your property. This is the only way they can check setback issues and such.

I have owned the home for 5 years and to my memory, I did not receive any survey drawings for the property, at least to my memory. I seem to remember the realtor noting if I wanted my property marked off, I could pay someone to do. I remember we had some basic dimensions of the property as we walked part of it, but not the whole thing other than saying it goes up this hillside and is about there kinds of things. My house was plenty in the seen borders so I did not worry. I am just not sure the exact dimensions and where exact it is.

Time for me to find the old documents and see if anything is in there.

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tj
 

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Go the the county tax assessor's office and they should have maps that you can buy. Many have an aerial photo layer. If not, you could probably trace or copy one of the base maps and then draw on your house, garage, etc.
 

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wilbilt said:
You are on 10 acres and having issues with a 20x20 building?
Had the same problem. I've got a little over 10 acres and the house sits right in the middle. Was at the county offices getting the paperwork filled out for the permit and the lady said I needed the site plan with measurements. I told her the garage was at least 300' from any property line. So she said to put 300' + and let the inspector figure it out. Never had any more problems.:lol_hitti
 
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amishman

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Itzkwik said:
Had the same problem. I've got a little over 10 acres and the house sits right in the middle. Was at the county offices getting the paperwork filled out for the permit and the lady said I needed the site plan with measurements. I told her the garage was at least 300' from any property line. So she said to put 300' + and let the inspector figure it out. Never had any more problems.:lol_hitti

I guess time will tell. Hope it is that easy for me.

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tj
 

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If you can't find anything with the county, you can either measure things out yourself or pay someone to do it. I have a lot less property than you so 2 hours with a tapemeasure and Autocad were all I needed. I'm not sure what area you're in so I'll just offer some generic advice for your site plan that I was asked.

1) Define your property lines based on a public object. Mine was from the street, but if you're far enough back or on a dirt road, you may want to reference a telephone/power pole.
2) Mark when your water, gas, sewer, & electrical are in relation to the new building. My inspector was really concerned about them & wanted to make sure we weren't going to be digging in places we shouldn't be.
3) Check your setbacks when you place your new building. Even though you have a lot of space you might find you're required to have 10+ feet from your garage to the property line.

Sorry if some of this info seems basic. It was all news to me when I went though the process and the inspectors were far from helpful.
 

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Inetmonkey said:
3) Check your setbacks when you place your new building. Even though you have a lot of space you might find you're required to have 10+ feet from your garage to the property line.

Sorry if some of this info seems basic. It was all news to me when I went though the process and the inspectors were far from helpful.

While it may seem like basic info, if someone doesn't deal with setbacks, easements, and the like, it's info that has to be known.

The other thing to remember is that there is usually a minimum building setback distance that has to be maintained.
 

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If you still have the financing package you got when you bought the house there should be a site plan in it. If not your financing company will have it on file. Call them.
I just did this last year for my shop addition and I finished one up for my sister this past Sunday for a 20x24 pole barn/shop she is putting up. Took about 15 mins to do. Scanned her old site plan into my computer and drew the building on in Photoshop... Printed it out and it's good to go.
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In my experience, in California (lived there for 61 years) it all depends on the "issuing authority" for your permits, city, or county, and most of them have some differences in their adaptation of the basic building codes. For your site plan, you might be able to get by with a basic drawing showing your property lines, and the relationship of any existing buildings to them, then add in the relationship of the new building to the existing ones, and the property lines. Thus, if your property is square, it should be about 650 to 700 feet per side. Draw a ten inch square in the middle of your 11 x 17 sheet, note the scale as being (65 feet to the inch for a 650 foot property line), and put those dimensions on the lines. Then, using that scale, locate your buildings within the square, and identify the distances from the property lines, etc. That should satisfy all but the most **** of building departments; it worked for me in Orange, Kern, Placer, and Nevada counties, and a few cities, as well.

The information for your property should be on file with your county or city assesors office, or the county or city recorder, and there should be a site plan on file from the initial construction. Sometimes, it takes a little patience in dealing with the system and its denizens, and some of them get downright frustrating, but the info is there. Depending on when your place was developed, the old stuff might be archived in some warehouse, but a lot of it has been converted to digital format in recent years.

Good luck.
 
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