NFH2740
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That is exactly what those were.
SK is unveiling new ratcheting wrenches
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That is exactly what those were.
i have a 3/8 and 1/4 drive. fit and finish is much better that the crappy cman's with all metal parts. no plastic levers and the like. they are very similar to the older napa ratchetas and the parts swap.
my inside source tipped me off to the new higher tooth count ratchets a while back. he was told about them when he was at the factory and also saw the ratcheting wrenches.
Bigblue&Goldie
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I actually have one of the old Napa's that looks nearly identical. Not a horrible ratchet, but far from my favorite.
justme-
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I'm holding off buying another set of ratcheting wrenches until I see what SK comes out with - I have gearwrenches at home and like them, but a well done US made set that isn't going to cost a weeks pay is definitely worth looking at. At this moment it's Armstrong...hoping to have some competition.
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As to marriage - celebrated 10 years with my wife yesterday, been together 18 years. It's not about what we commonly joke marriage is about - it's being yourself and finding the person who you can be yourself with no matter what. You have to realize when you're married it's not just about self any more, and it takes work sometimes to sort out differences.
Loscaldazar
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Who's going to be there tomorrow to provide details for us?
Maybe a joke/troll? Or my search-fu is similarly poor.
I searched a while back when he posted that and got nothing, even in the completed items listings. I was hoping to score some nice wrenches for $99, lol
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Loscaldazar
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Sooo... anyone going who can report back on these?
LB-1911
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Yesterday, 03:45 PM
Today 07:49 AM
Patience......
Exhibit Hours
http://www.semashow.com/the-sema-show
Today 07:49 AM
Patience......
Exhibit Hours
http://www.semashow.com/the-sema-show
cgv69
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Chuck122
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These 0° offset ratcheting combos are not USA marked. Regular FD+ wrench for reference. Idk about the rest of their line up
Snap_cap
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These 0° offset ratcheting combos are not USA marked. Regular FD+ wrench for reference. Idk about the rest of their line up
Per the Snap-On website:
Product Specifications Information:
ASME® B107.100
Country Of Origin USA
Brand Snap-on
Per the Snap-On website:
Product Specifications Information:
ASME® B107.100
Country Of Origin USA
Brand Snap-on
SO website is not always accurate.
bobcatdan
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This thread is about SK, not SO.
Steinmetz
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The "Taiwanese patent" would only be enforceable on Taiwan.
warmpancakes
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yes but when you break one and get it swapped the bag says made in USA, and also the cardboard that comes with the set says it
Fedwrench
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Some of you will be disappointed. Initially, they are only combination wrenches that are zero offset. No flex, stubby, no reversible . The ratcheting box end is a six point, the open end is a v type with teeth along the side of the open end. They are called x frame because there is a triangular shaped open area in the wrench beam behind the box and open ends to lighten the wrench. The wrench has a nice feel to it. They are US made of US components and steel. The ratcheting boxed end is serviceable. It has 6 Pawls arranged around the box end internally. Two are fully engaged, two are partially engaged and two are not engaged at any time. This design offers great strength and 1/3 arc swing of other brands. Initially offerings will be 8-19mm and I think 5/16-3/4. Retail should be around $300 a set depending on vendor.
Sorry about no pictures but, I'm having technical difficulties.
Pear head ratchets with a similar internal design should be released June 2015. No ratchets were on display. I should receive a sample 10 mm x frame wrench to test out in early 2015.
Sorry about no pictures but, I'm having technical difficulties.
Pear head ratchets with a similar internal design should be released June 2015. No ratchets were on display. I should receive a sample 10 mm x frame wrench to test out in early 2015.
u118224
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Bummer about the zero offset. Are they short or long pattern?
Bigblue&Goldie
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I guess we got all excited about nothing. At $300/set they will have a street value of about $225, which doesn't make me want to buy them with those features.
I'm not sure I see the purpose in the six point design, since a ratcheting wrench isn't meant for large torques in the first place (where 6pt would be an advantage over 12pt).
Nice that they are serviceable.
The pawl design you describe sounds interesting, but I'm not real familiar with what ratcheting wrenches typically look like on the insides anyway.
Nice that they are serviceable.
The pawl design you describe sounds interesting, but I'm not real familiar with what ratcheting wrenches typically look like on the insides anyway.
Loscaldazar
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I think these are designed to not only be ratcheting wrenches, but also to replace traditional wrenches if wanted. With 2 pawls fully engaged, and 2 partially engaged, that probably gives a bunch of strength.
Bigblue&Goldie
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I just don't understand why SK didnt build a proper reverdible wrench? That's a deal breaker for many of us. For that money I would buy Armstrong if made in USA was critical in my decision.
Chadwilliam1
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do not forget proto makes reversible ratceting wrenches too. I have craftsman industrials and I love them, they are the same as armstrongs as far as I know IMO that is the perfect ratchet wrench. I will need to see a pic of the SK offerings before I make a decision.
Only if they're using the same design. Snap-On is using a dual 80 design in their ratcheting wrenches (both Snap-On branded and BluePoint/Williams) so its their own design. Similarly Gedore (made in Germany) basically just downsized their U20 design. GW and similar clones use a floating single pawl.
6pt isn't about torque but material. 12pt grips less of it. In areas of high corrosion its kind of nice. One of the biggest benefits of 12pt is reduced engagement angle but if your box end ratchets that's made a bit moot. Im sure they'll eventually do both versions or maybe a spline instead of 12pt.
People already abuse their ratcheting wrenches in this way and for the most part they don't have an issue. The failure rating on a ratcheting wrench is well over 100 foot pounds. Good luck putting that load on a wrench without using a cheater or some other form of abuse.
They'll never replace a basic combo, the limitation is in the thickness of the box end walls.
Great news on the ratchets. Long overdue for that brand.
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Fedwrench
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They're standard length wrenches. SK will probably add other styles of ratcheting wrenches later but, I don't think you'll see them in 2015. SK had a very nice presentation about the new wrenches titled Street Knowledge. Hopefully they'll put it on their website or perhaps their you tube channel later.
dnschmidt
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Much ado about nothing. If it's not offset and it's not reversible it's junk. I can buy that at Harbor Freight. Extremely disappointing.
montanafordman
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yeah bummer. SK fumbled the ball on this one. I'm a huge SK fan and have been waiting to buy ratcheting wrenches until I know what they are coming out with but now that I know it won't be SK. 
I REALLY like the proto reversable wrenches and will probably go that route eventually. I can fathom 2-300 on a US made, ofset reversing wrench but not a non reversing, non offset wrench set! Especially when I can get a basic set of those at harbor frieght for $20 
I REALLY like the proto reversable wrenches and will probably go that route eventually. I can fathom 2-300 on a US made, ofset reversing wrench but not a non reversing, non offset wrench set! Especially when I can get a basic set of those at harbor frieght for $20 woodstockva
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I'll have pics up later today...I will swing by their booth and have my wife be sure and take lots of them....We are heading to SEMA first thing in the morning, we went to AAPEX today.
BBC71Nova
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I stopped by SK booth today to checkout the wrenches. Personally I think they are nice. It is true that non-reversible (and therefore no offset) and the 6 point configuration is a bit of a negative. However, I assume they had to go 6-pt in order to allow for the multi-pawl design. I felt they were nice and smooth and the wrench doesn't have to swing much at all for engagement. Much more of a qualify feeling piece than my Gearwrench set. Of course being made in USA is obviously nice.
I went in skeptical about a "revolutionary" ratcheting wrench but left impressed. I'm curious to see how complete the sets will be when they come out and what final pricing will be.
Here is a slide from the presentation that will give you the info about why the ratcheting design is quite different from others.
Here is a picture of one of the wrenches we were allowed to play with in the session.
I went in skeptical about a "revolutionary" ratcheting wrench but left impressed. I'm curious to see how complete the sets will be when they come out and what final pricing will be.
Here is a slide from the presentation that will give you the info about why the ratcheting design is quite different from others.
Here is a picture of one of the wrenches we were allowed to play with in the session.
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Jarhead0408
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Well, I'm no pro-wrencher.....and I can probably deal w/the 6 point design, heck, if it is as shown in that slide it looks stronger, but....... I think all my other tools would laugh these out of my box b/c of the cutouts!
If anyone buys these, I would love to see the audacity of them complaining about Craftsman's lobster claw wrenches. Little too funky for me.
If anyone buys these, I would love to see the audacity of them complaining about Craftsman's lobster claw wrenches. Little too funky for me.
I agree with this. Weird looking wrench all around.
I'm also curious about clearance. Most ratcheting wrenches' heads because of the mechanism are quite a bit thicker then a non-ratcheting version. I'm often unable to use them because theres just not enough clearance. So based upon SK's 6 pawl design all around the head, instead of just 1 pawl at the bottom, does this mean the head is even thicker then competitor's wrenches? Hard to tell in the pics if it is, or is not. Would be a huge negative to this design if so.
ChevyEFI
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Looks slimmer than most.
Great strong design, though I would want reversible.
Great strong design, though I would want reversible.
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Jarhead0408
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This looks like the only tool I could actually agree with warrantying it based solely on cosmetics..............and that's without being used. I would ask for either a non-ratcheting Super-Chrome, or an old RP style back in return.
I know I'm coming across as harsh, but I actually love SK tools. I'm dumbfounded that they didn't just send a couple of unmarked prototypes down the street to the nearest mechanics shop and ask for some feedback as far as FORM and functionality. While I'm sure they function just fine, these really should have been 12 point. I can't think of anyone I know that would want these.
I hope they haven't produced too many of these yet. I hope they still have time to go back to the drawing board, because if they have moved into production, I believe they will have lost money on both the tools and the tooling needed to make these.
The extra large SK logo kinda reminds me of the old K-D wrenches with a similar font.
I know I'm coming across as harsh, but I actually love SK tools. I'm dumbfounded that they didn't just send a couple of unmarked prototypes down the street to the nearest mechanics shop and ask for some feedback as far as FORM and functionality. While I'm sure they function just fine, these really should have been 12 point. I can't think of anyone I know that would want these.
I hope they haven't produced too many of these yet. I hope they still have time to go back to the drawing board, because if they have moved into production, I believe they will have lost money on both the tools and the tooling needed to make these.
The extra large SK logo kinda reminds me of the old K-D wrenches with a similar font.
mikehaugen
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With their pawl mechanism I don't see how it would be possible to make them reversible. Maybe if you want offset they will make you buy two sets... a right and a left?