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You know come to think of it I do remember about ten years ago I was barely a teenager but I remember seeing SK tools in auto parts stores, made in US and I knew craftsman had already gone out of business and I was a little surprised to see US made tools on a shelf in a cheap kind of store.

nowadays it’s all Chinese stuff in auto parts stores. But I think Napa got some Taiwan Carlyle
 
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Kinda OT, but did Western Forge make the SK pliers when both were functional 10+ years ago? I'm talking about the basic line of pliers like needlenose, etc, and not specialty stuff like retaining ring, fuel line, etc, that may have come from other companies like Wilde, Lang, Milbar....
 

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@ecotec do I need to worry about Kitts? It’s my favorite place. I hope selling the warehouse doesn’t mean they’re on their way to the end.
 

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@ecotec do I need to worry about Kitts? It’s my favorite place. I hope selling the warehouse doesn’t mean they’re on their way to the end.

I don’t think so. It is one of my favorite stores too. It is like a treasure hunt.

Did you find the WWII extensions in Cosmoline for 1$? I look for the Snap-on and Plomb ones. The same ones are $6 at HJE.IMG_4953.jpeg

I may have been a little greedy. You may have to look hard for the Snap-on ones.
 

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I snagged some of the 6” but didn’t spy those longer ones!

I was there loading up on drill bits last Friday. Grabbed some Bondhus hex keys with a copyright date of 1989 on the back, among other good things.

I’ve bought too many of those Xcelite made Crescent mini driver sets, I had to tell my self no.
 

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I snagged some of the 6” but didn’t spy those longer ones!

I was there loading up on drill bits last Friday. Grabbed some Bondhus hex keys with a copyright date of 1989 on the back, among other good things.

I’ve bought too many of those Xcelite made Crescent mini driver sets, I had to tell my self no.

The longer extensions are in a metal can thingy on the floor in the middle of the same aisle. If you have to choose between Plomb and P&C, I would choose Plomb.
 

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Kinda OT, but did Western Forge make the SK pliers when both were functional 10+ years ago? I'm talking about the basic line of pliers like needlenose, etc, and not specialty stuff like retaining ring, fuel line, etc, that may have come from other companies like Wilde, Lang, Milbar....
It all looked like WF to me. Put it next to most USA Craftsman pliers of the era and it matches up.
 
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Just received this email from SK confirming only the following are still made in USA:



At this time the following items are made in the USA:

Chrome Sockets (not green or black striped)
Chrome Extensions
Chrome Adapters and Universal Joints
Ratchets are Made in the USA of domestic and globally sourced components
LP90 Ratchets
Chrome Drive Tools
Hook & Pick Set
Body Clip and Rivet Removal Set
TurboSockets®
Pliers
All TORX® Products
Torque Wrenches
Torque Screwdrivers
 

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I was looking for a 3/8 plug socket and the SK version didn't have USA on it and reviews saying it was no longer USA made.
 

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I've got around 25 brands of 3/8 drive 10mm socket, and the SK USA one is tighter / less play on the hex rods I use than any other socket. Talk about precision! I mean something like 10.05mm will not fit at all.
If you own and know where 25 different 10mm sockets are I honestly can’t imagine how many you have lost!
 

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Chinese businessmen generally don’t strike me as dumb.

They buy the company which has a fair amount of US manufacturing of higher end, specialty tools. Maybe continued operation works for them versus just shutting everything down and reinventing the wheel elsewhere.

Besides, in a twist of irony, with the tariff situation, a Chinese company making products in America , might be exactly where they want to be.
 

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Kinda OT, but did Western Forge make the SK pliers when both were functional 10+ years ago? I'm talking about the basic line of pliers like needlenose, etc, and not specialty stuff like retaining ring, fuel line, etc, that may have come from other companies like Wilde, Lang, Milbar....
Yes, Western Forge made a full range of pliers and cutters for SK, as well as adjustable wrenches, and also their CushionGrip series alongside their Craftsman Professional equivalents.

edit: For a time, anyways. The mid 00's saw a lot of changing business and contracts across Danaher, WF, SK, Facom, and other brands.
 
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That doesn't include the round head ratchets with 200+ positions, does it?
No.

Those have grown on me and I find then usable, but I prefer the USA made lp90 sets. I own a couple sets of these


If you are ok with Chinese and those round ratchets, I like this set


It has a full no skip regular and deep sockets without a lot of filler. A decent set of screwdriver bits is included and they are really well labeled for the bits, which is rare.

The hex keys are ok and feels like filler, but if you need them

The ratchets have six pawls. It actually works. My biggest complaint is the effort needed to change directions. While messing around I thought it was annoying. Never even noticed it while in use. I assume it is because of the six Pawls.
 

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You know come to think of it I do remember about ten years ago I was barely a teenager but I remember seeing SK tools in auto parts stores, made in US and I knew craftsman had already gone out of business and I was a little surprised to see US made tools on a shelf in a cheap kind of store.

nowadays it’s all Chinese stuff in auto parts stores. But I think Napa got some Taiwan Carlyle

Around me, even as of 10-15 years ago, even parts stores that were listed as SK dealers mostly stocked KTI. They would handle SK warranty though. (I bought a lot of used SK around then and had 2-3 pieces to warranty, so I bothered to look up local dealers)

KTI are actually pretty decent, but AFAIK are all made in Taiwan not USA.
 
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If I wanted an SK 40970 ratchet for the sheer historical intrigue of it, but I lived in Europe, how would I make sure I got a US-made one?

Obviously I have no interest in Asian-made American-branded tools. I can get any number of Asian tools branded anything I like right here in Europe.
 

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If I wanted an SK 40970 ratchet for the sheer historical intrigue of it, but I lived in Europe, how would I make sure I got a US-made one?

Obviously I have no interest in Asian-made American-branded tools. I can get any number of Asian tools branded anything I like right here in Europe.
I think that for ratchets it's American made or not based on the model number.
 

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Chinese businessmen generally don’t strike me as dumb.

They buy the company which has a fair amount of US manufacturing of higher end, specialty tools. Maybe continued operation works for them versus just shutting everything down and reinventing the wheel elsewhere.

Besides, in a twist of irony, with the tariff situation, a Chinese company making products in America , might be exactly where they want to be.

"SK" isn't going to bring back manufacturing as there aren't enough people in the US that will pay a premium online for a USA product targeted to the DIY automotive market; they went out of business for a reason. Supposedly Wright makes their USA sockets. AJ Mfg supposedly makes the ratchets. 99% of Americans aren't going to pay 3X as much for a set of USA made sockets on Amazon that an equivalent Chinese or Taiwan made set costs. The cost to make stuff in the US is typically 3X what it is in China if there's a reasonable amount of labor involved.

Chinese companies bought up most? of the old USA vacuum brands for their names. They make all the vacuums in China because no one is going to spend $600 for a USA made vacuum when the identical Chinese one is $200. There was a story online in the last few weeks about a business owner that was selling a premium Chinese widget online for $250 and went thru all the trouble to make the 100% equivalent one in the USA that was priced at $350, IIRC. In the next few months, he sold hundreds of the Chinese ones and zero of the USA ones.
 

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I think that for ratchets it's American made or not based on the model number.
Well, the OP of this thread, 1320it, quotes an email from SK, above, saying, “Ratchets are Made in the USA of domestic and globally sourced components”.

Whereas if I go back to the 1940s, like this:

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...l-history-post-your-logos.70980/#post-1008819

… I’m pretty sure there wouldn’t be anything “globally sourced” in that 40970.

So how far back would I have to go to be sure it’s US-made, and how would I identify those 40970 models?

To my untrained eye they look largely alike across about 80 years of production.
 

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"SK" isn't going to bring back manufacturing as there aren't enough people in the US that will pay a premium online for a USA product targeted to the DIY automotive market; they went out of business for a reason. Supposedly Wright makes their USA sockets. AJ Mfg supposedly makes the ratchets. 99% of Americans aren't going to pay 3X as much for a set of USA made sockets on Amazon that an equivalent Chinese or Taiwan made set costs. The cost to make stuff in the US is typically 3X what it is in China if there's a reasonable amount of labor involved.

Chinese companies bought up most? of the old USA vacuum brands for their names. They make all the vacuums in China because no one is going to spend $600 for a USA made vacuum when the identical Chinese one is $200. There was a story online in the last few weeks about a business owner that was selling a premium Chinese widget online for $250 and went thru all the trouble to make the 100% equivalent one in the USA that was priced at $350, IIRC. In the next few months, he sold hundreds of the Chinese ones and zero of the USA ones.
OK, but my point was that they already have a good number of US factories, part of the S-K brand purchase.

I agree they likely won't move other Asian SK factories back to the US, because that is just dumb, which the Chinese are not.
 

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Well, the OP of this thread, 1320it, quotes an email from SK, above, saying, “Ratchets are Made in the USA of domestic and globally sourced components”.

Whereas if I go back to the 1940s, like this:

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...l-history-post-your-logos.70980/#post-1008819

… I’m pretty sure there wouldn’t be anything “globally sourced” in that 40970.

So how far back would I have to go to be sure it’s US-made, and how would I identify those 40970 models?

To my untrained eye they look largely alike across about 80 years of production.
I like the LP90 usa made. I have the flex head and the not flex head.

I also like the thumb wheel ratchets such as the
49270
 

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OK, but my point was that they already have a good number of US factories, part of the S-K brand purchase.

I agree they likely won't move other Asian SK factories back to the US, because that is just dumb, which the Chinese are not.

They don't have any as they moved and got rid of the factory idial set up for SK. They will have to spend the coin to come back and set up another.
 

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"SK" isn't going to bring back manufacturing as there aren't enough people in the US that will pay a premium online for a USA product targeted to the DIY automotive market; they went out of business for a reason. Supposedly Wright makes their USA sockets. AJ Mfg supposedly makes the ratchets. 99% of Americans aren't going to pay 3X as much for a set of USA made sockets on Amazon that an equivalent Chinese or Taiwan made set costs. The cost to make stuff in the US is typically 3X what it is in China if there's a reasonable amount of labor involved.

Chinese companies bought up most? of the old USA vacuum brands for their names. They make all the vacuums in China because no one is going to spend $600 for a USA made vacuum when the identical Chinese one is $200. There was a story online in the last few weeks about a business owner that was selling a premium Chinese widget online for $250 and went thru all the trouble to make the 100% equivalent one in the USA that was priced at $350, IIRC. In the next few months, he sold hundreds of the Chinese ones and zero of the USA ones.
There are USA made vacuums, they just cost a lot.




These aren’t the only ones.
I’m sure some of these use some foreign made components or materials, but the vacuums are mostly actually fabricated and assembled in the USA.
Most vacuums like this are/or were sold by salesmen who would come to your door, demonstrate the product, and then give you a payment plan to pay the vacuum off over time.
These vacuums are actually repairable, and there are actual repair shops, like there are for decent sewing machines, which routinely sell for $1,000-$5,000 or possibly more.

Standard vacuums and appliances sold at places like Walmart, etc., are basically “disposable”, and it’s cheaper to just give a customer a new one, if something fails, than to have someone try to repair the old one.
Power tools, hand tools, and licks, seem to be some of the relatively inexpensive items that people actually still pay to have repaired, or which are repaired.

Giving only three months or so for a product to “succeed”, isn’t really a lot.
Maybe if the product is demonstrated on something like QVC or in some other major infomercial, but most products can require a year or more to tell if the product is successful.
Customers for a “random widget” might buy a cheaper Chinese version to test whether the widget is useful or not, before bothering to purchase more, or to spend extra on a USA made version.
I routinely by clearance shoes and boots just to see if a manufacturers sizing or build quality works for me.
Only then will I consider paying full price for the brand, unless the brand is fairly inexpensive.
 

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There are USA made vacuums, they just cost a lot.




These aren’t the only ones.
I’m sure some of these use some foreign made components or materials, but the vacuums are mostly actually fabricated and assembled in the USA.
Most vacuums like this are/or were sold by salesmen who would come to your door, demonstrate the product, and then give you a payment plan to pay the vacuum off over time.
These vacuums are actually repairable, and there are actual repair shops, like there are for decent sewing machines, which routinely sell for $1,000-$5,000 or possibly more.

Standard vacuums and appliances sold at places like Walmart, etc., are basically “disposable”, and it’s cheaper to just give a customer a new one, if something fails, than to have someone try to repair the old one.
Power tools, hand tools, and licks, seem to be some of the relatively inexpensive items that people actually still pay to have repaired, or which are repaired.

Giving only three months or so for a product to “succeed”, isn’t really a lot.
Maybe if the product is demonstrated on something like QVC or in some other major infomercial, but most products can require a year or more to tell if the product is successful.
Customers for a “random widget” might buy a cheaper Chinese version to test whether the widget is useful or not, before bothering to purchase more, or to spend extra on a USA made version.
I routinely by clearance shoes and boots just to see if a manufacturers sizing or build quality works for me.
Only then will I consider paying full price for the brand, unless the brand is fairly inexpensive.
I grew up using a rainbow vacuum. Very nice.... Captures all of the dirt and water so you can see what you pulled out. Works better than a HEPA filter cuz it catches everything.
 

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Has anyone bought SK recently?
Not me.

Which SK tools pre 2021 should I be looking to buy new old stock of? What did they make back in the day that honestly is better than current stuff from other manufacturers?
Do you remove transmissions?

SK had two adapter/extensions for impact use--1/2" female, 1/2"-style shank, with a 3/8 male square at the end. One at about two feet long, another at about three feet long. Toss a 3/8" universal impact socket on the male end, and a 1/2" impact wrench on the female end, and the bellhousing bolts didn't stand a chance.

Snap-On used to offer a version of the long adapter/extension, but it was built "backwards" and is therefore far less useful. Instead of being a 1/2" extension with a 3/8" male square, it's a 3/8" extension with a 1/2" female end--the shank is skinny and flexible, so it won't transmit torque as effectively. Currently, they're selling a properly-made "locking" "Blue-Point" adapter at 33" long. IMSFXL33

SK # 46174 (22") and 46175 (36").

 
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Do you remove transmissions?

SK had two adapter/extensions for impact use--1/2" female, 1/2"-style shank, with a 3/8 male square at the end. One at about two feet long, another at about three feet long. Toss a 3/8" universal impact socket on the male end, and a 1/2" impact wrench on the female end, and the bellhousing bolts didn't stand a chance.
I never removed transmissions yet but maybe someday and I read about this tool on here and found one new old stock on marketplace last year and bought it, it’s a 3 footer and honestly I didn’t know the 2 footer existed. Should I also look for that or is the 3 footer good enough?

funny enough I was thinking about this tool recently and wondering if I’d shear off the 3/8 anvil by putting it on a 1/2 impact. And then wouldn’t have any way of warrantying it 😮‍💨

since I always hear about drive reducers being a good way to shear the anvil off the reducer. Idk if this being one piece makes it stronger and less likely to shear but its still all the same force on a smaller anvil.

would you use a m18 mid torque or m18 high torque with this?
 

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found one new old stock on marketplace last year and bought it, it’s a 3 footer and honestly I didn’t know the 2 footer existed. Should I also look for that or is the 3 footer good enough?
I own both. Have never used the 2-footer.

I was thinking about this tool recently and wondering if I’d shear off the 3/8 anvil by putting it on a 1/2 impact.
In the end, it's a three-foot torsion bar. You're gonna lose a bunch of torque due to flex, even though it's stiffer than the Snap-On version.

And besides...how much torque do (typically 3/8-16) bellhousing bolts require to remove?

would you use a m18 mid torque or m18 high torque with this?
No, because I won't own rechargeable impact tools. God bless fresh-squeezed air.

I use a Snappy IM6100 or a Snappy MG725 on it, though.
 

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SK doesn’t make any of their branded tool products in the US at all?
SK doesn't make anything anymore, greatstar sold the factory and equipment. They have contracted some other companies to make their USA line for them. AJ manufacturering and some other for sockets.
 

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There are USA made vacuums, they just cost a lot.




These aren’t the only ones.
I’m sure some of these use some foreign made components or materials, but the vacuums are mostly actually fabricated and assembled in the USA.
Most vacuums like this are/or were sold by salesmen who would come to your door, demonstrate the product, and then give you a payment plan to pay the vacuum off over time.
These vacuums are actually repairable, and there are actual repair shops, like there are for decent sewing machines, which routinely sell for $1,000-$5,000 or possibly more.

Standard vacuums and appliances sold at places like Walmart, etc., are basically “disposable”, and it’s cheaper to just give a customer a new one, if something fails, than to have someone try to repair the old one.
Power tools, hand tools, and licks, seem to be some of the relatively inexpensive items that people actually still pay to have repaired, or which are repaired.

Giving only three months or so for a product to “succeed”, isn’t really a lot.
Maybe if the product is demonstrated on something like QVC or in some other major infomercial, but most products can require a year or more to tell if the product is successful.
Customers for a “random widget” might buy a cheaper Chinese version to test whether the widget is useful or not, before bothering to purchase more, or to spend extra on a USA made version.
I routinely by clearance shoes and boots just to see if a manufacturers sizing or build quality works for me.
Only then will I consider paying full price for the brand, unless the brand is fairly inexpensive.

There's a Rainbow dealer between Rural King and my Deere dealer, which means I'm by there a lot. I've been thinking about getting my grandmother one, as she's been going through a Walmart vac every couple years. Yes, I replace belts, but still, something major always breaks on those flimsy (but still $100) vacuums. I've got an old Filter King I've been meaning on rebuilding. It was my grandmother's "good" vacuum in the '70s until some idiot relatives borrowed it and proceeded to use it as a shop vac to **** ashes out of a wood stove. It just needs a few parts internally, a new hose, and a new cord.


I for one like Sanitaire. I've got an '80s Eureka, and apparently, they were so good, Electrolux kept the Mexican factory that made them when they sold Eureka to some Chinese firm. They were then rebranded Sanitaire, but are otherwise mechanically dentical to my Eureka 5071S. Thus, you can still buy most of the parts for it (including the bulb, which was ditched on the Sanitaires). That being said, I only have $7.50 and around $20 in consumables invested in it.
 

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SK doesn't make anything anymore, greatstar sold the factory and equipment. They have contracted some other companies to make their USA line for them. AJ manufacturering and some other for sockets.
Dues that include the USA made LP90 ratchets or are they just using up old stock?
 

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Dues that include the USA made LP90 ratchets or are they just using up old stock?

Ok again SK doesn't make tools anymore, Including the LP90. Someone else makes them for SK. The rumor company is AJ manufacturering. They sell old stock and new from who ever they are getting them from.
 
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