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TheMadMech

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Which wrenches do you guys prefer? I've always preferred the reversable ratcheting wrenches but with a recent job change the non-reversing wrenches get into better spots.

So I'm considering the SK X-Frames and the Snap-On Flank Drive with the non-reversing ratcheting box end. what would you choose?
 
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Slightly different tools that handle the same job. One is offset, the other is not which can matter in accessibility. Some swear by the reversible lever, and some would prefer the higher tooth count of the SK.

I've never used the Snap ons. I have some Proto USA reversible off set ratcheting wrenches though, and I've seized 2 of them up now in regular work (low torque situations) and had to warranty them. So definitely don't recommend the Protos...

I have the SK X frames, some gear wrench, and the aforementioned Protos. Only ones I've ever had issue with were the Protos. That being said, for me, having both a flat and an off set option are important as I've been in situations where I needed the flat, or I needed the off set to reach particular bolts.
 

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Does Snap-On not have a flat non-reversing option?

Snap On does make zero offset non reversible. PureLeaf most likely didn't read your post and just responded based on the title or didn't understand the question exactly (it's something we've all done a few times :thumbup:)

If you want zero offset non reversible, I'd go for the SK. Stronger and smaller swing arc (as well as cheaper).
 
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I have Snap On, SK, and Gearwrench. After I got the SKs, I haven't looked back. I absolutely love them. I'm not a fan of an offset ratchet wrench nor do I like reversible ones. But that is just me. The biggest point for me with the SK is the fact they're 6 point and living in the rustbelt that's a big factor for me as I only use a 12 point socket on a 12 point bolt! I just wish SK would come out with more sizes because I would own every one!
 

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The sk vs snap on is really apples and oranges in alot of ways. If you need an open end, you should look at the wrench for the open end (snap on is very good here); if you need length, look at the wrench for the length (again, snap on). If you need short, look for a wrench with the correct shorter length (like sk or proto/facom/stahlwille). If you need nothing to do with open ends, look at brands that offer ratchet/box (like snap on xdhr) or double-ratcheting box (like facom 67 series).

I don't really consider snap on and SK to be substitues most of the time. If you need snap on, grab it. If you don't need snap on, you grab whatever is the correct tool (and there is alot of competition out there). Some people don't like certain ergonomic profiles, and some people need different shapes for different parts of the wrench (thick, round handles for pulling heavy torqye, thin/flatish handles for flipping over using 15 deg open ends).

That is why there is lots of differnt niche brands out there people like.

Arbitrarily picking 2 brands out of thin air is sort of a false choice.
 
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I suppose I could have worded it

"I've narrowed my choice down to being interested in the Snap-On and have an ongoing relationship with the local dealer, and SK where I've never bought one of their tools but have read great things about these X-Frames. I'm a professional in industry and need a style of wrench I've never needed before. What, between these two options, is the better option? I know there are lots of people here who have used and even own both so I'd like that sort of opinion."

I just didn't think I'd need to be so fussy with the wording and was on mobile.

Money is a consideration in the sense that I don't want to buy a tool and then hate it (as happened to me once getting the Proto reversible ratcheting wrenches... they are god-awful in my opinion. That said, eventually I'll probably end up owning both sets just because I love Snap-On but am keenly interested in the X-Frames.
 

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For non-reversing, I'd recommend the Blackhawk extended length ratcheting wrench.

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Fwiw, you narrowed to both us made tools, the only other us made ratcheting offer out there is proto....if that matters to you.
I have used snapon and blue point reversible wrenches...I own Gearwrench. Cost vs value to me was the best option. I'd rebuy in either if sk had a reversible option (I get the design idea, but if all these companies can make strong 80+ tooth ratchets, sk can make a reversible in the same idea) and/or the price was right on a set in front of me.

Simply boils down to what you prefer in wrench style... reversible/offset or zero offset. Both brands will serve you well.

The six point/12 point argument is mediocre since all wrench companies tell you not to use the ratcheting end for high torque...not that any of us listen.
I personally don't like snapon really thin beam profile for high torque, tho you might.
 

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Sk's open end is every bit the equal to the FDP. I have both, and a set of Wrightgrips and it's the Wrights I use the most.
 

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Video review of the SK's-

SK ratcheting box end strength test - snaps the head off a grade 8 bolt without damage to ratcheting mechanism-

Comparison to Snap On FDP and WrightGrip open ends - all 3 snap the head off a grade 8 bolt with open end -

That's why I'm going to buy a set of the metric in the near future.

:beer:
 

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The three things that set the SK X Frame apart from every other ratcheting wrench is:
1. The ultra fine tooth ratcheting box action. No one has anything close to it on the market.

2. The modified nonslip open end. It's a beast that as you tube videos have shown. It grips and doesn't slip period.

3. The nice thick beams. No knife edges here. You can definitely lean on them without any pain.

I'm sure SK will release other versions of the X Frame but, i wouldn't hold my breathe waiting for them :wtf: SK isn't exactly quick at bringing new product to market.
 
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I suppose I could have worded it

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I just didn't think I'd need to be so fussy with the wording and was on mobile.

Money is a consideration in the sense that I don't want to buy a tool and then hate it (as happened to me once getting the Proto reversible ratcheting wrenches... they are god-awful in my opinion. That said, eventually I'll probably end up owning both sets just because I love Snap-On but am keenly interested in the X-Frames.

Money is a consideration in the sense that I don't want to buy a tool and then hate it (as happened to me once getting the Proto reversible ratcheting wrenches... they are god-awful in my opinion. That said, eventually I'll probably end up owning both sets just because I love Snap-On but am keenly interested in the X-Frames.

You already know what a snap on wrench feels like, and the ratcheting ones are exactly the same length and feel pretty much same. If you like the SK the second you pick it up, I would say just go for them. If you're gut reaction is something else (like you notice too short/long/heavy/light whatever about it). Then I would sleep on it a bit, maybe use it for a week longer etc. And then revisisit if it grew on you or not.

I feel like you should be able to tell very quickly the ergonomics stuff right away.

The technical side is in need of context. If you already have FD+ wrenches, the open end of the two doesn't really matter...you're never going to be shearing bolt heads off without thinking long and hard before you do so (which means you can grab whatever wrench and do it deliberately).

SO will also swap out any broken wrenches under warranty, so ultimate strength is really another red herring. Its nice to not worry about interrupting a job, and its nice to be able to use less tools etc, but we are still waiting on field data that say you can reliably break bolts for 5 years with an SK.

So grab a single SK in 10 or 13 or whatever MM for $20 bucks and test it out before you drop $200. The SK is supposed to have a nice clearance width on the boxend, and a short swing. Those are worth takin a $20 dollar flyer on to test the ergo's.

Just my $0.02.
 
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I agree the sk is a different wrench than the snap on. I'd go snap on just because that is easy warranty with the dealer
 

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Didn't SK mention something about that the X-frames will be field repairable if they ever give anyone problems (aka they'll have rebuild kits available? That's another good feature for the SK. Much easier to swap out the guts right there than wait for your SO man or corporate to get you another.
 

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I'm surprised nobody likes the Blackhawk wrench; I think it's pretty slick looking and that extra leverage would come in handy.
 

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I'm surprised nobody likes the Blackhawk wrench; I think it's pretty slick looking and that extra leverage would come in handy.
Because it's just another China made ratcheting wrench. There is nothing special about it except the name BlackHawk.
 

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I'm surprised nobody likes the Blackhawk wrench; I think it's pretty slick looking and that extra leverage would come in handy.

Because many of us aren't too keen on Chinese/Taiwanese hand tools - some from personal experience of them being very much subpar to the American and/or European counterparts.
 

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I have both on my five drawer roll around cart. The Snap On is 12 point and SK 6 and are thicker than the Snap On.
 

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nobody mentioned KTC, so I will toss that in as a Japanese option
 

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nobody mentioned KTC, so I will toss that in as a Japanese option

Its a nearly 5 year old thread that someone bumped to beat the drum of freedom. KTC are also made in Taiwan, not Japan. The modern (fine tooth) ratcheting wrench was invented in Taiwan so its not exactly a bad thing.
 

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Its a nearly 5 year old thread that someone bumped to beat the drum of freedom. KTC are also made in Taiwan, not Japan. The modern (fine tooth) ratcheting wrench was invented in Taiwan so its not exactly a bad thing.

He's going to argue with you - he apparently made a Reddit account mainly to do the 'Murica thing there too...
 
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