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Another thread got off topic but this is one of the slickest ideas. It would be expandable to include parking garage. Its worth its own thread. It takes a lot to impress me but this guy says it all. I tried his email but no results??? http://paccs.fugadeideas.org/tom/index.shtml Someone posted this link earlier but this guy has done his homework, no use re inventing the wheel here. You could make variations but it kind of beats the simplicity of it all. I have seen a few undergrounds and none of them really impressed me that much. Simplicity, cost, ease of materials, speed of construction could make this a real winner as well as low operating cost and maint.
 
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Not my cup of tea, but any engineering feat deserves some praise. I like the "warmth" of a wood structure more, though.

He's said he's going to build another one, so I assume he's going to sell this one. Resale value has got to take a hit on something like this.
 
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Ok, will take a look. The inside could be deco to suit not a problem but as a structural, vs cost vs maintainance. Everyone wants a big pricey home on the hill,,, screw that. I dont care much for these houses all in a row and they are pricey. There isnt much more material than would be in the basement and floor joists of the avg upper end subburb home. Put some shutters on in torado alley. I thought semi attatched garage wing could be added. I am a sissy I have to have indoor heated parking, about 3 stalls. Conventional stick may be higher resale but it costs a lot more to build too. I havnt ever built something to sell so it wouldnt be an issue, this is so practical and durable. I dont remember the tire building.
 

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Have it your way...

In the early '80's I did some contract work for a guy in southern Oregon,(Grant's pass area) that carved a similar house out of a decomposed granite hillside.
The wall/roof construction was very similar to the PASH, but was insulated on all sides with expanded poly styrene foam and sealed outside (dirt side) with 40 mill plastic/ vinyl? sheet and roofing tar. (hot mopped) with a granite look stucco inside. Total sq. ft. was ~4500. The south wall was fixed lite double insulated glass covered by sliding perforated metal screens to regulate the heat gain. Several poly bubble "sky domes" in the high sloping roof gave the interior an airy feel, not at all "cave like". Each bedroom had it's own emergency egress via a long horizontal 60 inch dia. concrete culvert pipe with an access door on each end. In the hottest part of the summer, filtered outside air was drawn in thru them with a 6 foot dia. slow turning 8 blade fan, to provide natural A/C. Several small "boxwood" stoves provided suplimental heat in the winter. the average year round interior temp was around 68/69 *F thanks to the 2 ft. minium dirt depth on the roof and full coverage on the outside walls. As far as I know, he never pulled a permit or had the plans inspected, (he was a retired civil engineer) he just paid cash for materials and labor, hid the most visible parts with creative landscaping and lived happily ever after I guess. RED
 
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Yea, I wasen't either until I spent a few days in that one in Grants pass. We built a really trick solar powered water system and a swing up wind generator tower. His thermal energy repository was 2- 2500 gal insulated fiberglass water tanks with a no loss heat exchanger, (carins wheel) Pretty neat setup all in all. RED
 
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Here is another idea. Form up some footers and stand sheet piling up as a wall in a curved fashion like this guy did with cement. Rail the top with steel, cut all the openings in, then a coat of shot crete, with foam over covered by liner using the same roofing system with the joists. You wouldnt need any form work, still pretty much one story construction, could be done DIY pretty easy?
 
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A retired civil engineer that was going to attempt this would obviously have the knowhow, himself or a friend would be well qualified to supercede rudimentary building codes for an unusual structure. Most of those issues would be non issues.
 
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