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1fastvx

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I know this is not a garage related issue, but I thought you may some insight on this issue...

Has anyone replaced there sliding glass door on their house and can recommend a brand of door to look at? We may need to have ours replaced and I wanted to see if anyone had any leads on a quality manufacturer that is not junk. I dont want the door to fall apart in the next few years!!

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John
 
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My father had a Pella put in and he absolutely loved it. Easily slid open with one finger. He opted not to have the internal blinds in it. I would recommend one from what I've seen of his.

On our house we had a ******* size and when we had replacement windows put in we had him replace the door also. I'm not sure what brand it was, but I absolutely DO NOT like a vinyl replacement sliding door. Whatever you get, don't scrimp because it will have to last you for quite a while. The vinyl replacement door that we have, probably won't make it ten years.
 

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Usually my experience with sliders is taking them out and replacing them with french doors. They can be regular in-swing or reverse swing.

As for the sliders- the top brand manufacturers are usually the ones with the better units- Kolbe&Kolbe, Pella, Marvin, etc. Depending on the size vinyl can be a good alternative but from an integrity standpoint aluminum is the structural standard.
 

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This is a case of the more you pay the more you get.
Go big name in wood.
The metal expeands and contracts to much compared to the wall and will create leaks.
 

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On new builds we typically install Certainteed or Jeldwen vinyl, unless the HO wants Pella. I've nver had a call back for Jeldwen or Certainteed windows or doors. If vinyl is too ugly for your tast look at Pella or Marvin.
 

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That was my mistake. I took out the French Doors or Atrium door as I called it in lieu of a slider.:mad:
 

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1fastvx, where are you? What's your budget? I've installed 100's of patio sliders and most of them were vinyl. I also used to have a company called The French Door Connection back in the 80's. You can make a conclusion on that. Pros and cons to all of it.

Give us some more info! Like will this be a retrofit or a hackout?
 
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1fastvx

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I am in North Carolina. I am not sure what the budget is I have never bought a sliding glass door before. I guess under $2000 would be good. The main reason why the door may be replaced it because it needs to be removed to repair some wood rot damage. The person doing the repairs gave us the option to buy a new door and he will put it in at no extra cost. We figured we would replace it.

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1fastvx, where are you? What's your budget? I've installed 100's of patio sliders and most of them were vinyl. I also used to have a company called The French Door Connection back in the 80's. You can make a conclusion on that. Pros and cons to all of it.

Give us some more info! Like will this be a retrofit or a hackout?
 
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As long as you stick to the larger window and door companies you should be ok. From a maintenance standpoint, I'd want a wood core with a vinyl or metal cladding.

My parents have had an Andersen vinyl clad sliding door for 15+ years with zero problems. It replaced a hinged french door that was a complete POS at less than 15 years old.

Inlaws had a Pella slider with blinds in the glass installed 11 or 12 years ago. They swear by it and Pella warranty service. One of the panels had a defect that allowed water into the core and start rotting the door a year or two ago. Pella sent a guy and new panel to the house. It was a quick change out to move the handle / lock assembly and blinds to the new panel. They had a problem with the blinds in one panel this spring that didn't qualify as a warranty repair - i think it had a 10 year replacement period that they were out of. Replacement blinds for that option are a spendy item.
 

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Just know that standard sizes are not too expensive, relatively speaking, in the high quality wood clad units. If you want an inch shorter in either direction the cost of the door will double. This is not the case with vinyl doors as most mfgr's will build a retrofit unit as well as a standard rough opening unit for the same price. $2000 is somewhat limiting, but depending on overall size, you should be able to get an Andersen or similar for that figure. In fact, and it's been awhile, I think Andersen offers a retro sized door.

If you are removing an aluminum door, your rough opening will likely have to be made larger (taller) to accommodate a Pella type. This is due to the sills used.

Vinyl will run less by roughly a 3rd.
 

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We put a Milgard in at the old house and really liked it. It was a vinyl model with dual-pane glass.

My only recommendation is to specify a door handle with exterior lock cylinder, so you can lock and unlock from the outside.
 

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This is a subject where you can basically spend whatever you want. I've used all of the bigger brands with Milgard and Anderson being I think good quality, last a long time, good warranty, not terribly bad money wise.

If you want to spend some money for something really good, try Penguin windows and doors, triple pane, very well built. Expensive.

You can't go wrong with Milgard, I would stay away from Jeld win and Pella. Both are contractor grade units and are not made all that well. They both have great units if you want to pay for their best stuff. If you are going to pay that much you might as well get something like Milgard or Anderson.

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usually my experience with sliders is taking them out and replacing them with french doors. They can be regular in-swing or reverse swing.

As for the sliders- the top brand manufacturers are usually the ones with the better units- kolbe&kolbe, pella, marvin, etc. Depending on the size vinyl can be a good alternative but from an integrity standpoint aluminum is the structural standard.

dido!!
 

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i work in the glass trade (commercial glazier) but i have some experience in vinyl window retro fits, etc.

i always recommend milgard (tuscany line) vinyl. highest insulation value, low-e value, r-values, etc. looks the best, usually you can get a tax rebate because its "green, energysaver." the milgards automatically lock when you close them, and mine easily slide open with one finger.

jeldwen, certainteed, lbl, penguin, etc, those are all cheapies. dont get them.

you can also get wood windows from: pella, andersen, marvin, mercer etc.

you can also buy windows that are vinyl on the outside, and wood cladded on the inside to fit your style, etc.

hope this helps.
 

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Anderson are good too.

Camaro...I don't know what your location is, but it seems that in my area not too many people buy Andersons and just don't like them. Our house was built in '88 and the Andersons we had were basically trash. All of the wood on the inside was getting bad and they did not seal very well. A friend of mine put in Andersons in his house a couple of years back and had nothing bet trouble with them. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they are bad, but personally around here it seems Marvins, Peachtree, and Pella, seem to be the bigger sellers, not necessarily in that order.

The replacement windows that we have, and I would have to dig up some papers to find the name, are ****. Plain and simple. A replacement window is something that you really have to shop around for and really read up and maybe talk t some contractors about. Ours are not a brand name replacement, but the company does a large volume of business. The company that we went through does remodeling, we've used him before, and this is what he sells and recommends. I was basically bullshitted. In the winter we run a humidifier on our furnace as one should do in the winter. We get condensation on the windows at the bottom. I questioned our contractor about it and he said we have our humidity too high in the house. I told him the windows leak and the cold along with the warm is creating the condensation. He gives me this big long paper from the company that makes the windows, about how window condensation is a misconception about leaking windows. That was my first clue that the windows leak. The second clue was the wife pitching a ***** about dirt coming in around the corners of the windows where the sash seals against the sill. When she complains, you know there is a problem.

The replacement windows we have use a fuzzy seal around the window. They interlock but the fuzzy seal is what is supposed to stop air infiltration. It doesn't, and we have dirt in each corner of the window to prove it. I showed this to the contractor and he says that is normal with a replacement window. I know it's not. But we are stuck with the windows and that is all he sells. Thay have made some difference in the heating bill and the sound. You can't hear anything outside with the replacement windows. With the old Andersons we could.

My advice to anyone getting replacement windows would be DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Shop around, get references, and ask the homeowners what they think. I'm done with my contractor. And if I sell, all I have to say is that the house has new replacement windows. Most people would be really happy with them. I am not and see what most wouldn't.

I'll take a french door any day over a slider.....especially if it sees frequent traffic.

We already discussed changing the door out. I absolutely HATE our replacement door. It slides easy in the summer, but in the winter it gets stiff. The first thing I know will break is the handle. We have to periodically tighten it up as the door is kind of hard to latch. You have to pull on it. By doing so, it puts stress on the handle.

If I can find some old pics of how I framed in the door, I may see about widening the opening for a standard width. When our house was build, our door was something like a 5'6" door. Standard at the time, but a ******* size today. Standard is 6'0". And then we will go back to a French door. When I build the Family Room on, I just used the existing door and windows that were in the house an moved them back. I should have bought a new door then that was larger.

Sliders ****.

Exactly :thumbup::beer:
 
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