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Both of these units claim 2 HP motors @ 120VAC. If correct, these things must pull close to 20A fully loaded ! They would likely trip a 15A breaker.
The Makita page says "1.7 hp" running. The manual says 15A minimum. The flow numbers don't seem that impressive for the claimed HP. They seem rather typical for that type of oil lubed, hand carry compressor. I suspect it's a good unit for what it is but no magic sauce.
 
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I went and researched in person the battery supplied air sources, the ridgid and M12 seem pretty chintsy and the screw on inflator *****. That said I am just going to wait for a good sale on a small pancake compressor like a Ridgid, Makita, Dewalt or maybe a craftsman. Noise isn't an issue it won't run long enough to be annoying.
thanks for all your input.
Most of these pancake compressors are very similar. I know from looking at it in the past the DeWalt is 95% (not 100%) the same as the Porter Cable. This is based on looking at service part numbers/diagrams. Stanley-B&D owns those brands and Cman so I wouldn't be surprised if all came off the same line. I fixed one of the Ridgid compressors. Very similar to the PC in design but I think they are 100% different parts. In my case the motor had seized. I'm guessing due to overheating. I got it fixed and gave the compressor away. Like the PC, it was noisy. Having watched some of the deal sites I think "great deal" is about $70 for a refurb. New is $100.
 

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Both of these units claim 2 HP motors @ 120VAC. If correct, these things must pull close to 20A fully loaded ! They would likely trip a 15A breaker.
I've run both on 15 amp circuits with no problem. The Makita is a piece of cake, the Rolair definitely draws more juice, especially on start up, but you can get past the initial load by opening the drain valves, once full cycling is no problem
 

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The Makita page says "1.7 hp" running. The manual says 15A minimum. The flow numbers don't seem that impressive for the claimed HP. They seem rather typical for that type of oil lubed, hand carry compressor. I suspect it's a good unit for what it is but no magic sauce.
Maybe, I think it's biggest selling point is it's build quality for it's price (just saw one for $156 on sale); if you want a compressor that you won't have to replace for a couple decades like the OP is looking for I think it's hard to beat. I like to buy quality the first and last time, but maybe there's better options.
 

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I went and researched in person the battery supplied air sources, the ridgid and M12 seem pretty chintsy and the screw on inflator *****. That said I am just going to wait for a good sale on a small pancake compressor like a Ridgid, Makita, Dewalt or maybe a craftsman. Noise isn't an issue it won't run long enough to be annoying.
thanks for all your input.
Just keep a pair of noise earmuffs conveniently on top, I don't like loud noises either and wear muffs when using a nail gun, leaf blower, or my old C-Man shopvac that has an annoying whine - good luck!
 

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I have the Makita MAC210Q 1 hp 2 gallon. It's well built, quiet, and even keeps up ok with a framing nailer as long as you aren't bump firing sheathing.
 

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The Makita page says "1.7 hp" running. The manual says 15A minimum. The flow numbers don't seem that impressive for the claimed HP. They seem rather typical for that type of oil lubed, hand carry compressor. I suspect it's a good unit for what it is but no magic sauce.
I have a $100 Chinese knockoff of this machine. It's the 'shed' compressor I use for bike and car tires, blowing off dust, and sometimes a brad nailer. Great for all that. Pulls 12amps running. It's not more than 1hp.

I have 3hp/10cfm portable in the shop also.
 

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I have a 5HP 80 gallon Curtis in the shop and a little Rolair like this one, only a 1725 RPM motor with similar specs, and oil lube compressor. Rolair compressor The best thing is it is quiet. Sound level was what I was mostly concerned about when I bought it. I use it pretty exclusively for nail guns so the CFM was not a huge deal. I can stand right by it and visit with my wife while it is running.
 
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So my 25 YO 3 gallon, 1HP craftsman compressor appears ready to depart from it's very long life. I think I paid $69 bucks on sale and believe I got my $$$ worth.

What is the general consensus for an equivalent replacement? It is only used for inflating tires and ocasionally to blow sawdust or other debris, no air tool operation. I am sure technology has improved over the years, what would be the recommendation here for another 25 year compressor that was maintenance free?

An equivalent replacement should last me the rest of my life without breaking the bank, if it's as dependable as the Craftsman was.
I gave this Porter Cable to my daughter. Nice little unit.
I used it to run a trim nailer on a room reno too. It works well

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https://www.cpooutlets.com/porter-c...MIyt2Jr5DF9QIVpf_jBx2_TATBEAQYDiABEgJOGvD_BwE
 
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All good advice but an oil lubed unit last longer and you only change 1qt of oil every year or 2. If you get belt drive they are not nearly as loud as a direct drive. Hf has a 20 gallon belt drive compressor that gets great reviews. If that’s not a consideration then one of the quiet compressors like California air, fortresses or husky would probably be a good bet. You could just go with a similar unit to what you have or get a new cylinder and ring and rebuild your old one. Check out ereplacementparts.com for parts. Truthfully you could probably just get a new piston ring for it and be fine for 20 more years and learn how to replace a compressor ring.
 
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All good advice but an oil lubed unit last longer and you only change 1qt of oil every year or 2. If you get belt drive they are not nearly as loud as a direct drive. Hf has a 20 gallon belt drive compressor that gets great reviews. If that’s not a consideration then one of the quiet compressors like California air, fortresses or husky would probably be a good bet. You could just go with a similar unit to what you have or get a new cylinder and ring and rebuild your old one. Check out ereplacementparts.com for parts. Truthfully you could probably just get a new piston ring for it and be fine for 20 more years and learn how to replace a compressor ring.
Imagine that, I never changed or checked the oil in my Craftsman, and it's still plugging along...lol I feel it's departure is near.
I have no need for a belt drive, I don't own any tools that would justify something that big. It sits on the floor next to my cabinets and I have a 50' hose that will reach any car in garage or driveway when i wash them, so the loudness for 10 or fifteen minutes isn't an issue..
 

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I gave this Porter Cable to my daughter. Nice little unit.
I used it to run a trim nailer on a room reno too. It works well

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https://www.cpooutlets.com/porter-c...MIyt2Jr5DF9QIVpf_jBx2_TATBEAQYDiABEgJOGvD_BwE
Not as pretty but from the same seller I would suggest this one.
It doesn't come with accessories but I think the OP has those. A bit less capacity but more flow, $10 cheaper and quiet.
Still, I think using a blow gun with either might get frustrating. When I just had a 4 gallon roofing compressor it was the blow gun that made me really want something bigger.
 

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So my 25 YO 3 gallon, 1HP craftsman compressor appears ready to depart from it's very long life. I think I paid $69 bucks on sale and believe I got my $$$ worth.

What is the general consensus for an equivalent replacement? It is only used for inflating tires and ocasionally to blow sawdust or other debris, no air tool operation. I am sure technology has improved over the years, what would be the recommendation here for another 25 year compressor that was maintenance free?

An equivalent replacement should last me the rest of my life without breaking the bank, if it's as dependable as the Craftsman was.

What's wrong with your old compressor, and have you considered just repairing it?
 

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Went to use my 2 gal Fortress recently and the pressure gauges were at zero, normally the tanks holds pressure. :wtf: Oh, I left the drain valve opened. :lol_hitti

Otherwise it will hold if I don't use it for months. The Chinese have figured out engineering and quality control.

I don't care how long it lasts, when it goes I'm buying another one.
 
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This is a complex Garagejournal question. Consider the balance:
  • This is GJ, we must fix that which can be fixed.
  • This is GJ, we must acquire new tools.
Which of these opposing needs will win?
After it being maintenance and trouble free for about 25 years and way less than a $100 upfront cost, A smart man would bet it will be a curb side freebie in the future...Scrappers gotta eat too.
 
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