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Snap on comparable to JH Williams?

wafrederick

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Pros don't wear thier uniform when going to Sears to get Craftsman tools replaced under warranty.Craftsman does not cover thier tools under warranty when used for pro use.I have Williams sockets and one Williams 1/2 drive ratchet,hold up very well and hassle free warranty when I sent in a couple broken sockets about 3 monthes ago.I recieved new sockets with no problems at all,was within a week when I sent them in.
 
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otis66

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Pros don't wear thier uniform when going to Sears to get Craftsman tools replaced under warranty.Craftsman does not cover thier tools under warranty when used for pro use.I have Williams sockets and one Williams 1/2 drive ratchet,hold up very well and hassle free warranty when I sent in a couple broken sockets about 3 monthes ago.I recieved new sockets with no problems at all,was within a week when I sent them in.

I've been to Sears plenty of times with Craftsman tools Wearing my uniform with company name and my name.. There is nothing in the Sears warranty about pro mechanics.
 

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Pros don't wear thier uniform when going to Sears to get Craftsman tools replaced under warranty.Craftsman does not cover thier tools under warranty when used for pro use.I have Williams sockets and one Williams 1/2 drive ratchet,hold up very well and hassle free warranty when I sent in a couple broken sockets about 3 monthes ago.I recieved new sockets with no problems at all,was within a week when I sent them in.

Awful funny, when I first started out wrenching at a place called Western Auto that used to be owned by Sears they never had any problems eexchanging my tools.After they closed the doors I went to work at Sears in the shop and still no problem. After that a few dealership and no problems then in the Classic Custom shop again no problem and I've been in to Sears on my lunch break in uniform to warranty tools. Don't get me wrong Snap-On makes good quality tools but my opinion is there no better then Craftsman on there hand tools specialty tools yeah but not hand tools.
 

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I had an instructor in a Manual transmissions class at an automotive college I went to,He took in broken Craftsman tools to get replaced once wearing his uniform,worked at a shop and Sears refused to replace them under warranty.Dull wire cutters are not covered under Craftsman's warranty too.
 

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JH Williams make excellent hand tools!!

They are owned by Snap On and manufacture Snap On's industrial hand tool line. They manufacture really good supercombo wrenches and I have a set rebranded for Caterpillar which should tell you something. I don't think you will be disappointed.

Back in the '70s and '80s, Caterpillar stocked Williams tools in their tool cribs. That was my first exposure to the brand and I was impressed. So much so that 15 years ago when I found a complete, nearly new Williams 3/4 drive socket set with ratchet and extensions at a local pawn shop for $65 I jumped on it, hoping my poker face didn't go away during the transaction. I still have it. Not sure when SO acquired Williams but they were/are excellent tools.
 
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HandyManny

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Not everyone on here likes Snap-On. And my personal opinion from professional experience is that Snap-On is not superior to Craftsman. My classic Craftsman RPs have seen way more abuse and have held up to or passably out performed Snap-On. The good thing about Snap-On is only in a professional setting because of the tool availability when the truck comes to you however you pay dearly for that luxury. Craftsman will perform just as well if not better then Snap-On in a perfessional setting and no question more available to the home DIY Guy at a fraction of the price.

That's been my experience as well. Not nessesarily just with Craftsman, but with other tool brands like S-K, Proto, New Britain, etc, all held their own. It also depends largely on what specific tool you are talking about. Some specific tools are better than others. When it comes to things like combo wrenches, adjustable wrenches, breaker bars, and sockets, the Cmans (at least from my day) held their own just fine in a professional setting. I saw plenty of guys owned and used them at work daily. When it comes to pliers I wouldn't chose Cman for daily use. They're screwdrivers back then were just fine. I never was too fond of Cman extention bars, as I prefer those to have knurling on the shafts of extention bars, and Cmans don't. For certain specialty tools you may have no other choice but to buy off the trucks.
 

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<<<<<That's been my experience as well. Not nessesarily just with Craftsman, but with other tool brands like S-K, Proto, New Britain, etc, all held their own. It also depends largely on what specific tool you are talking about. Some specific tools are better than others. When it comes to things like combo wrenches, adjustable wrenches, breaker bars, and sockets, the Cmans (at least from my day) held their own just fine in a professional setting. I saw plenty of guys owned and used them at work daily. When it comes to pliers I wouldn't chose Cman for daily use. They're screwdrivers back then were just fine. I never was too fond of Cman extention bars, as I prefer those to have knurling on the shafts of extention bars, and Cmans don't. For certain specialty tools you may have no other choice but to buy off the trucks. >>>>>>

I agree. To me and possibly others, Snap-On and the other tool truck dealer brands could be as much of a status symbol as anything else. It is tough for a younger fellow who is just getting started to afford the cost of buying those brands but this is something the Snap-On man can help with: credit terms. I don't know what their interest rates are but they aren't anywhere close to the prime lending rate. The dealer makes a ton of money from the get go - monthly payment plans just compound the already high cost. If was doing it I would start at the Sears store and if you just had to have truck brand tools then replace as you can afford them or save your money and stay with proven tools from other manufacturers.

I too dislike Sears pliers and the newer screwdrivers. The red, blue and clear Craftsman screwdrivers made 20 years ago are better than those made today. The metasllurgy and/or manufacturing process has changed. I've always been a used of Channelocks and Diamond Calk pliers and never had a problem.

Forty+ years ago in Vietnam I was using Vchek tools with excellent results. I've not seen any new ones in years.
 

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I recently bought williams deep well 3/8 drive sae and metric socket sets, I also bought a 32 piece allen set, it has all the standard and metric allens, torx bits, and phillips and flat bits. all that was 160.00 shipped to my door. I also bought williams 9 piece standard and phillips screwdrivers for $55.00 on ebay. I'll give feedback when they arrive.

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I got the confirmation they're shipped. Pics only do so much but I figured for the price I couldn't go wrong, I am however looking at the gearwrench wrench set of sae and metric, I think its like a 22 piece set. I personally like the chrome shiny finish. I'm not to fond of the dull looking wrenches even though they all do the same job.
 
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