Snap On Cracked AGAIN!!!! PFFFTT!!

[Dieselnick]

8mm 6PT on Snap On torque wrench QD2R200 ( last calibrated 4/23)
Set to 120inch pounds torquing down turbo pedestal. Was using to teach student. After 39yrs., I frickin know what 10pounds feels like. Got to about seven and crack. Socket snapped. Kid looks at me and asks, “ How money was that Snap On stuff”?
Ive broken 5 of them in 6 yrs. Pitiful that you need your Craftsman to back you up!! Cant remember last time I broke one of them!

 

[Jaysreal]

Sounds like maybe this is be due to duty cycle? I know many will love to recite the age old adage that "they don't make them like they used to" but backups never break, they're rarely used.

A while back in the home garage I recall cracking a 3/8dr 12mm NOS Easco(one of Craftsman's OEMs) while doing brakes, couldn't believe it!

I think sometimes we are used to abusing tools, my Ko-ken zeal has the same failure as yours there, I believe they've got a pretty good reputation around these parts, but I can guarantee that I've used the thing on a cordless ratchet, free-spinning above the bolt then slamming it down to break fasteners free more times than I can count.

 

[Toold_up]

Switch to an impact socket vs chrome.

 

[cgrutt]

I cracked a Snapon deep socket (13mm IIRC) last year but I was putting a helluva lot more on it than 10 ft lbs at the time (with a ratchet not impact gun). Forgot what I was using it on but it was something related to my F150s transmission or transfer case. The socket was purchased in late 1980s and they replaced it no questions asked. I find it hard to believe you've cracked 5 of them with only 10 ft lbs. Are you using them with an impact gun or something?

 

[noid]

Sounds like maybe this is be due to duty cycle? I know many will love to recite the age old adage that "they don't make them like they used to" but backups never break, they're rarely used.

A while back in the home garage I recall cracking a 3/8dr 12mm NOS Easco(one of Craftsman's OEMs) while doing brakes, couldn't believe it!

I think sometimes we are used to abusing tools, my Ko-ken zeal has the same failure as yours there, I believe they've got a pretty good reputation around these parts, but I can guarantee that I've used the thing on a cordless ratchet, free-spinning above the bolt then slamming it down to break fasteners free more times than I can count.

That's the cultural difference between Japan and the US; in the US you wont find a smaller than ISO standard socket (like the zeal line) for the simple fact that US OEMs know that Americans are likely to use tools outside of their design range.

 

[drtyler]

8mm 6PT on Snap On torque wrench QD2R200 ( last calibrated 4/23)
Set to 120inch pounds torquing down turbo pedestal. Was using to teach student. After 39yrs., I frickin know what 10pounds feels like. Got to about seven and crack. Socket snapped. Kid looks at me and asks, “ How money was that Snap On stuff”?
Ive broken 5 of them in 6 yrs. Pitiful that you need your Craftsman to back you up!! Cant remember last time I broke one of them!

I would have to use a different brand socket for that application for now on. Maybe try PROTO through Amazon or Grainger/Zoro, or MAC if there is the dealer comes by your place.

Proto part number is J5208MH.

Here is a new one on the auction site for less than $10 with "best offer" and no added shipping cost: https://www.ebay.com/itm/176086149347

 

[charbar]

That is a 3/8" drive socket too, not 1/4" drive.

He actually has a picture of a 1/4" drive socket......not that it really matters as the 'working end' of my snappy 8mm sockets are all the same outside diameter regardless of being 1/4 or 3/8 drive.

I crack my snappy 8 mils semi often. More than my cheap sockets....but I also use the snap ons 300 to 1 so that is expected to me. I'm not easy on them though.

I tend to notice that mine start to get a little 'mushroomed' out at the end and then it doesn't take near as much to finally split it down the side.

 

[chris142]

How many times has that socket been abused in the past? I am guessing the kids have been less than nice to it in the past.

 

[txvwnut]

Don't feel bad I cracked a Craftsman socket removing the bolts on my plasma cutter cover.

 

[drtyler]

He actually has a picture of a 1/4" drive socket......not that it really matters as the 'working end' of my snappy 8mm sockets are all the same outside diameter regardless of being 1/4 or 3/8 drive.

I crack my snappy 8 mils semi often. More than my cheap sockets....but I also use the snap ons 300 to 1 so that is expected to me. I'm not easy on them though.

I tend to notice that mine start to get a little 'mushroomed' out at the end and then it doesn't take near as much to finally split it down the side.

Poor assumption on my part.

The quoted part number for the torque wrench pulled up as 3/8” drive, so I assumed and lost.

 

[Vinny]

I always took the lifetime warranties not to mean that the tool will never break, but you're paying more upfront to replace them when they do. Nothing is indestructible.

 

[username2]

That's the cultural difference between Japan and the US; in the US you wont find a smaller than ISO standard socket (like the zeal line) for the simple fact that US OEMs know that Americans are likely to use tools outside of their design range.

I've got a nice Apex 1/2"->1/4" impact adapter that I've never ever used. I really should give it a try.

 

[GX460DIYguy]

Must be an 8mm thing. I have one that was in a toolbox I bought that’s cracked. I need to see if my guy will warranty it next time I’m on the truck.

 

[IRQVET]

I've abused sockets for a long time. I have a bad habit of using my Chrome sockets in my impact. But with that said, none of my newish Tekton or older Craftsman have ever broke.

 

[jpaw]

That is why my in lb torque wrench is 3/8" drive. Got tired of wearing out/breaking 1/4" drive sockets.

 

[Dieselnick]

It was 2 weeks old. It never saw serious torque. These replacements last only a couple of years.
Four almost 4 decades, When my Snap On and Matco sockets come up at the end if life cycle they just develop a loose fit. I replace them at that point. Its a metallurgy thing. Takes just one dude with an alcohol or other problem and you have a bazillion pieces of junk out there.

 

[Dieselnick]

This guy was on crack.

 

[Dieselnick]

 

[Dieselnick]

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[c39er]

I've never broken a mid 80's 90's 3/8 shallow 6 pt. Craftsman socket.
Lucky me...I used them constantly as a tech.
Recently bought a SO 1/4" drive flex handle ratchet...skips every once and awhile.
Snap on isn't what it used to be IMO.

 

[GX460DIYguy]

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I just won an auction where at least one of the sockets is like that. I’ve seen some where a socket or two isn’t even marked.

 

[dnschmidt]

HOW DARE YOU. You're telling us that Snap-On isn't perfect and doesn't make the best tools in the world. Heresy I say, burn him at the stake for spreading this blasphemy!!!

 

[Wrench97]

He actually has a picture of a 1/4" drive socket......not that it really matters as the 'working end' of my snappy 8mm sockets are all the same outside diameter regardless of being 1/4 or 3/8 drive.

I crack my snappy 8 mils semi often. More than my cheap sockets....but I also use the snap ons 300 to 1 so that is expected to me. I'm not easy on them though.

I tend to notice that mine start to get a little 'mushroomed' out at the end and then it doesn't take near as much to finally split it down the side.

I too go through a lot of 8mm semi-deep 3/8 drive sockets most are not cracked just worn enough that they slip and I have to grab another socket.

 

[sweetk30]

That socket is whooped and was due for crack and warranty swap .

 

[2ndGearRubber]

I've broke a few 8s, the walls are so thin it's just a numbers game.

 

[Steve_P]

Dunno, the walls on that socket don't look any thinner than any brand I have- SK USA, Williams USA, Craftsman USA, GW, HF......

But it looks beat to **** to me and looks like it's seen much abuse. Not like, "I just bought this yesterday and tightened a screw to 120 lbf-in on a torque wrench and it broke. But more like it's seen much impact use in the past and now it failed and SO *****.

I won't argue this, but that's my observation. And 1% of my tools are SO, and IIRC I literally have one SO socket that I inherited and have never used, so I rarely defend SO as being superior to the other brands that sell for a fraction of their price. Sorry, but from my eyes that's seen a lot of use or abuse.

 

[M635_Guy]

That's pretty bizarre. I have to think there's some it's being used for that should really get done some other way. 8mm fasteners aren't generally going to be in an application where they're but so tight. I guess rust could be a factor, but that number of dead sockets leads me to think there's more to the story.

 

[Wrench97]

That's pretty bizarre. I have to think there's some it's being used for that should really get done some other way. 8mm fasteners aren't generally going to be in an application where they're but so tight. I guess rust could be a factor, but that number of dead sockets leads me to think there's more to the story.

Fords, they love to put 8mm heads on 8mm bolts and loc-tite them in....

 

[Dieselnick]

I've never broken a mid 80's 90's 3/8 shallow 6 pt. Craftsman socket.
Lucky me...I used them constantly as a tech.
Recently bought a SO 1/4" drive flex handle ratchet...skips every once and awhile.
Snap on isn't what it used to be IMO.

EXACTLY!!! NEVER saw this action back in the day!! I still have stuff from the early ‘80s!
Now, All the new stuff gets sloppy and now, particularly 1/4” sockets just flippin’ cracking with relatively very low use. 2 week!! Pathetic!
I am done with new. Tons of older on Ebay.
Heck, Tonight, I found brand a brand new body for my SO CTR761 cordless 3/8” ratchet. Mine has seen rough times, slipped away, trapped behind greasy intercooler pipes, wedged, pushed out, hitting everything on it’s way down to the floor. Happened many a time and it doesn't blink over it. It just keeps going. It is hideous, faded green. I wanted red but that what he had. This guy ( Midwest Auto Recyclers) had brand new bodies for $57. He has them for different models. He has different colors. I got the red. Another guy has battery boots.
Im not subsidizing my SO guy’s pool construction, kid’s braces, whatever.

 

[Dieselnick]

Fords, they love to put 8mm heads on 8mm bolts and loc-tite them in....

120 inch pounds set on SO inch pound torque wrench. Muscle memory told me that I was only around 7pounds when it cracked. Never even got close to where wrench should have click.

 

[Dieselnick]

Dunno, the walls on that socket don't look any thinner than any brand I have- SK USA, Williams USA, Craftsman USA, GW, HF......

But it looks beat to **** to me and looks like it's seen much abuse. Not like, "I just bought this yesterday and tightened a screw to 120 lbf-in on a torque wrench and it broke. But more like it's seen much impact use in the past and now it failed and SO *****.

I won't argue this, but that's my observation. And 1% of my tools are SO, and IIRC I literally have one SO socket that I inherited and have never used, so I rarely defend SO as being superior to the other brands that sell for a fraction of their price. Sorry, but from my eyes that's seen a lot of use or abuse.

Wrong, that socket was never abused nor does it look like it. My eyes were recently checked at the Wilmer Eye Clinic at Johns Hopkins Hospital and are golden. Ive had that socket for 2 weeks. I dont use chrome on power tools and have been a diesel and hydro tech for 39yrs. I know whats up.

 

[Dieselnick]

Wrong, that socket was never abused nor does it look like it. My eyes were recently checked at the Wilmer Eye Clinic at Johns Hopkins Hospital and are golden. Ive had that socket for 2 weeks. I dont use chrome on power tools and have been a diesel and hydro tech for 39yrs. I know whats up. I also said, I believe it to be a metallurgy issue. That would have no bearing what-so ever with wall thickness.

 

[Dieselnick]

Sounds like maybe this is be due to duty cycle? I know many will love to recite the age old adage that "they don't make them like they used to" but backups never break, they're rarely used.

A while back in the home garage I recall cracking a 3/8dr 12mm NOS Easco(one of Craftsman's OEMs) while doing brakes, couldn't believe it!

I think sometimes we are used to abusing tools, my Ko-ken zeal has the same failure as yours there, I believe they've got a pretty good reputation around these parts, but I can guarantee that I've used the thing on a cordless ratchet, free-spinning above the bolt then slamming it down to break fasteners free more times than I can count.

If you expand his photo, that socket was hex-bored off center!

 

[Dieselnick]

^^^^^ photo of guy holding the deep well.

 

[Dieselnick]

I always took the lifetime warranties not to mean that the tool will never break, but you're paying more upfront to replace them when they do. Nothing is indestructible.

Approx 7 ft pounds when it cracked!! Thats outrageous not asking for indestructible.

 

[Dieselnick]

That's pretty bizarre. I have to think there's some it's being used for that should really get done some other way. 8mm fasteners aren't generally going to be in an application where they're but so tight. I guess rust could be a factor, but that number of dead sockets leads me to think there's more to the story.

Wrong. It was going in. Threads were perfect. It cracked around 7 pounds.

 

[Dieselnick]

Dunno, the walls on that socket don't look any thinner than any brand I have- SK USA, Williams USA, Craftsman USA, GW, HF......

But it looks beat to **** to me and looks like it's seen much abuse. Not like, "I just bought this yesterday and tightened a screw to 120 lbf-in on a torque wrench and it broke. But more like it's seen much impact use in the past and now it failed and SO *****.

I won't argue this, but that's my observation. And 1% of my tools are SO, and IIRC I literally have one SO socket that I inherited and have never used, so I rarely defend SO as being superior to the other brands that sell for a fraction of their price. Sorry, but from my eyes that's seen a lot of use or abuse.

Expand photo. It looks brand new!! You can see its own reflection from camera lense cast back on to the front of socket. Blow that picture up. Its PRISTINE!! Now the guy with the deep well by the earth movers, yes, thats a rough socket BUT It was also hex bored off center.

 

[Dieselnick]

Good night. You boys seem ok. Some dont seem to understand that a 8mm SO 6pt. 1/4” shallow, PRISTINE socket should not crack at around 7 pounds but still seem to be ok guys.

 

[3baygarage]

Kind of thinking people were looking at the post #2 pictures added by Jaysreal.

 

[BrandonV]

IDK this is what the lifetime warranty is for. Get a replacement if it does it again... replace it (sell it to a SO fanboy) and be done with SO.

Sometimes are always going to slip by QC. I received a wrench set shrink-wrapped the other day from a tool truck where one of the wrenches was a 12 point instead of a 6 point.