tonydanzah
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I'm curious what they look like? Do anyone have a picture? I really like the strength built into the the matco 88th and how a million teeth engage at once. Is the dual80 the same way?
Snap on dual 80 guts
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tonydanzah
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nevermind, i found a video with the guts. I'll stick with the matco design.
Diesel-Mech
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What dont you like about the Snap-on design?
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tonydanzah
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The dual pawl, when i was playing around with matco more teeth actually engage than in the snapon promo video. Which is why i think people say its not as smooth as the dual 80. I also like the directional selector setup better, very hard to get it to bump directions. Sometimes I have to spin the socket back alittle bit to switch directions. Then again its just my opinion.
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tonydanzah
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ahh thank you, what part is moved when you switch the direction
wellstig1
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Are you worried about strength? If so you'd have to being to trying to break one for that to happen. I have only broken one 3/8 drive and that was when they first came out and my dealer said I wouldn't be able to break it. I had to put a 3 foot cheater bar on it and the gear didn't even break, the anvil sheared off.
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tonydanzah
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not really, i would image both probably break at around the same lbs. Was more just curious about the design and why people were saying the snapon is smoother. As far as cheater bar, when you weight 280 you can break a ratchet without a cheater bar.
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tonydanzah
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maybe, but ill never know
krusty the clown
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why is that?
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tonydanzah
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i think its a personal opinion saying which is stronger. They are both rated at 250. The snap on promo video i saw didn't put the competitors ratchets in the load test machine.
Bart Simpson
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Are you sure about this ?
What video are you talking about ?
How about posting a link ?
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tonydanzah
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Its funny they say the matco ratchet may be thin, but when you put a matco socket on it its to thick. So put a different socket on it, even *gasp* a snapon socket if you need it then.
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Bart Simpson
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I get this message from that link ?
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This website has been reported as unsafe
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tonydanzah
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No video for you i guess, avg didn't report any activity when i was on there. Neither did firefox It will pop up blocked as soon enter the site.
its on youtube also
its on youtube also
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Merkava_4
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The one thing I realized about the new 80's is that if you ever strip out a screw hole, the ratchet is toast. The previous models had the cover plate tapped.
Deafautotech
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yeah... that why snap on said use proper torque then it will have no problem...
Snap On's design is better imo, I have used both.
bushhawg73
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There, I fixed it for you.
Merkava_4
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Look at how tight that thing is in there!! They've got every 1/10,000th of an inch accounted for. There's barely any room for the grease!!
Merkava_4
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Hey Jason,
Is that ratchet in the ON position or the OFF position?
Is that ratchet in the ON position or the OFF position?
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tonydanzah
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i asked about that before but got no response, what slides to pick the selector.
wellstig1
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If you break one you should be using the proper tool (1/2" drive or larger) for what you are doing.
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tonydanzah
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That is a total bs answer. 1/2 doesn't always fit where you need it.
mkdive
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How could you know if you like it or not by looking at a picture or video?
Have you ever used a Dual80?
mkdive
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Look at how tight that thing is in there!! They've got every 1/10,000th of an inch accounted for. There's barely any room for the grease!!
That like looking at the Mona Lisa for ya Merk?
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tonydanzah
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i never said i didn't touch one. I felt one from a tool truck when they first came out. Did not actually use it on a bolt. Had not used a 60tooth matco either at the time. I just never opened one up and I honestly can't remember how it felt. I just notice alot of people have been saying it was smoother that matco 88th. If you want to send me one for a comparison i would gladly give it a try again.
glenmore
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Please delete the post with the vidds link. Annoying popup ad.
mrshaun
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don't knock it til you try it. look at all the posts that these guys put saying their dual 80 is smoother than the matco 88.
I have sold a ton of these and not one complaint or a return.
I have fixed a couple of the tl72 ratchets but no 3/8 or 1/2.
Did have a couple of guys break the flf80 at the pivot point and a couple of 1/2 pulled the screws out of the plate ( they were used on tanks )
I have sold a ton of these and not one complaint or a return.
I have fixed a couple of the tl72 ratchets but no 3/8 or 1/2.
Did have a couple of guys break the flf80 at the pivot point and a couple of 1/2 pulled the screws out of the plate ( they were used on tanks )
mkdive
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Truthfully I could care less which ratchet you go with or stay with. Everyone has their own taste. I can appreciate that.
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bushhawg73
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IIRC the two silver paws have a pin on the back side. The selector lever has a channel in it. The pin slides into the channel as the selector is switched and the paw that is not needed is pulled out of the way. I think this is how it works. I hope I did not confuse you.
wellstig1
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You can get the 80 tooth 1/2 into plenty of places, its really not that much bigger than the 3/8. If access is that restricted I doubt you could get enough torque to break it.