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mast240

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OK guys, so I'm considering selling my snapon kr657/637 combo. It has a year mark of 93. Problem is, I don't really know SO prices too much... What do you think would be a reasonable price for it?

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There was a guy near me (NYS) selling pretty much same box on Craigs List asking about $2,200. It sat for a very long time (many months) and not sure if he ever wound up selling it. Personally, I'd say about $1,200 +/- but as others have said it really depends on your local market. I've seen them go ridiculously cheap and much higher. If it were mine I'd probably ask $1,600 and be prepared to settle for less. Good luck!
 

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Looks similar to the 34W 18-D 7 drawer roller I bought four years back for $340.. Mine had black trim and wasn't as nice as Yours.. It took a little straightening on one caster support on the bottom. I noticed that it rocked on a level floor when looking it over.. All of 15 minutes with a slide hammer to straighten that, and the slides needed a cleaning. It should get all new detents, as they were all shot.
I was a bit generous at $340 for this one, but did end up with an ok roller cabinet. The small depth contributed to the box being unstable without a loaded top chest to help counterweight the tipping effect of a halfway open drawer filled with 1" drive sockets. :lol_hitti . After adding a loaded chest on top, the weight of those 1" drive sockets also made me question how long the slides would hold. The belly of the bottom drawer was also sagging under that weight... So, it didn't look like, and proved to not be a heavy duty enough cabinet... I gave it to one of My Sons to use for far less demanding tasks.. Then I filled it with tools, but drew the line at 1/2" drive. He did joke about a top chest, as My Road Chest was in the van when I delivered the roller cabinet to His Mom's place.. The plan was to remove the casters and mount it under His workbench.. Only problem is the workbench is at His place near Seattle, and that Roller Cabinet is at His Mothers place in Minnesota.. Well, I'm supposed to deliver it to His house..

So there are a few things I can suggest about Your Box. Don't sell it to a heavy equipment or diesel mechanic. Don't claim it to be heavy duty. Don't sell the chest and roller cabinet separately. And for heavens sake, don't offer to deliver it. But, I look at you box, and $700 to $850 comes to mind. You have a nice SnapOn box that should be worth that. One question, what happened to the bottom slides on that one.?
 
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I bought that exact same set on Ebay from a Maryland guy a few years ago. I got it for under 600 bucks and all drawer slides where good - no drawers out like that picture.
I only managed to get it that cheap because he specified local pickup only. The guy said he had people begging him ship to them, offering to double whatever the bid price went to if he'd agree to get it frieghted to them, but he just wanted it gone and I was able to run right over and pick it that weekend.
A quick clean up and bought a new lock from my regular SO man and have been using it for my home box ever since.
 

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Used prices will vary from place to place.
I've seen them from $600 to $1200.
Personally for a "working" tool box they are the most useless boxes I've ever seen.

I have 2 sets of them in the garage



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Used prices will vary from place to place.
I've seen them from $600 to $1200.
Personally for a "working" tool box they are the most useless boxes I've ever seen.

I have 2 sets of them in the garage



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Just for information, what do you dislike about that setup.

I was thinking of looking into getting one.

Any input you can give would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
 

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Just for information, what do you dislike about that setup.

I was thinking of looking into getting one.

Any input you can give would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

my biggest issue is the lack of wider drawers in the top box, because of the narrow stack of drawers.
the mid box & roller cab are fine.

ive tried working out of the top box, it's just not practical for me and the way my tools are arranged. at home, in the garage, it's not that big of a deal for me....


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I got that same set-up as in the OP. I paid 300, warrantied the slides and painted it. :)


The list $750-$900 in my area. All about location and availability.
 

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That's a homeowner box or second box for a pro mechanic these days. Obsolete size.

I agree with the $1,200 valuations in this thread. I bought a 1978 vintage version of that toolbox in worse shape for $350 2 years ago, for example. KR-537 and KR-557. Yours is in pristine condition. Single stack boxes aren't very useful to pros anymore. Double, triple, or quad boxes are all the rage now.
 

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Personally for a "working" tool box they are the most useless boxes I've ever seen.

I think this may be a little harsh but everyone's mileage varies. I worked out of boxes with similar drawer layouts to those for years before the multi-bay monsters came on the scene. Granted, the newer layouts are better but those are still very functional.

That being said, $600-$800 is what they would fetch here in Colorado and you would have to wait for the right buyer. I think the 6xx came with roller bearing slides? That will help the cause but, for $1200-$1500 +/- you can get one of the newer wide drawer models used in reasonable shape on CL so I think that number is a bit optimistic. Like others have said, location dictates a lot.

Here are mine. Now retired to home shop use. Friction slides and still work great.


If you aren't in need of the money, I would consider keeping them. It would be hard to find a newer box built to the same quality level for what you are going to get for them.

Good luck.

Cheers,
Chris
 
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May be obsolete but there is a crowd that likes those...people with bad backs who don't want much to do with drawers lower than waste level.
 

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The OP's boxes are in nice shape. They should be worth around $1,000

They were popular boxes back in the day. What I didn't like about mine was the drop front cover. It felt like i was opening and closing it all day to keep dirt and dust out and to keep the other guys from borrowing my good tools. Larger farm shop.

Also I added the 3 drawer middle section. The setup was just too tall.
 
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That's a homeowner box or second box for a pro mechanic these days. Obsolete size.
Single stack boxes aren't very useful to pros anymore. Double, triple, or quad boxes are all the rage now.

a lot of older heavy eq mechanics, (myself included) still use single stack boxes.

a lot of smaller shops just dont have the space available for wide boxes.

i went with multiple single stack boxes at the last dealer i was at.

in a small garage, like mine, the single stacks make more sense, i can move boxes around to fit in the available space.


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my biggest issue is the lack of wider drawers in the top box, because of the narrow stack of drawers.
the mid box & roller cab are fine.

ive tried working out of the top box, it's just not practical for me and the way my tools are arranged. at home, in the garage, it's not that big of a deal for me....


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Thanks, I can understand what you are saying about the lack of wider drawers.

The narrow ones would have to be for special use.
 

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I think this may be a little harsh but everyone's mileage varies. I worked out of boxes with similar drawer layouts to those for years before the multi-bay monsters came on the scene. Granted, the newer layouts are better but those are still very functional.

That being said, $600-$800 is what they would fetch here in Colorado and you would have to wait for the right buyer. I think the 6xx came with roller bearing slides? That will help the cause but, for $1200-$1500 +/- you can get one of the newer wide drawer models used in reasonable shape on CL so I think that number is a bit optimistic. Like others have said, location dictates a lot.

Here are mine. Now retired to home shop use. Friction slides and still work great.


If you aren't in need of the money, I would consider keeping them. It would be hard to find a newer box built to the same quality level for what you are going to get for them.

Good luck.

Cheers,
Chris

That's a nice setting you have there.
Plenty of square inches and a flat surface for placing stuff.
It would work for me in great style. :thumbup:
 

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I got a brand new 637 in trade for some work done for my dealer.

I really regret not following up in getting the 657 roll cab. Or the center section.

Oh well. :sad:
 

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.....So there are a few things I can suggest about Your Box. Don't sell it to a heavy equipment or diesel mechanic. Don't claim it to be heavy duty. Don't sell the chest and roller cabinet separately. And for heavens sake, don't offer to deliver it. But, I look at you box, and $700 to $850 comes to mind. You have a nice SnapOn box that should be worth that. One question, what happened to the bottom slides on that one.?

If a diesel mechanic wants it and has the money, why not sell it to him?

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The guys are right the professional mechanics all seem to want really large rollcabs,in excess of 41" wide.
So maybe you should more realistic with the price if you really want to sell it,
My SNAPON dealer has told me that all boxes under 41" wide are now made in CHINA.
 

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The guys are right the professional mechanics all seem to want really large rollcabs,in excess of 41" wide.
So maybe you should more realistic with the price if you really want to sell it,
My SNAPON dealer has told me that all boxes under 41" wide are now made in CHINA.

it's been a while since i saw a SO catalog but it seems like all or most of the smaller boxes and some carts were branded blue point.

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I would prefer to be humanitarian and politely save him some grief.

I'm not following that one either. I seem to remember lots of these boxes were loaded down and stuffed to the gills in shops from light automotive to heavy diesel for years without complaint and I believe that Snap-On will stilll warranty the slides. :headscrat I do admit that I haven't turned wrenches professionaly in decades so again, current mileage may very.

They may not have the wide, deep socket drawer and wide wrench drawer but that is just an organizational thing and pretty easy to work around. In fact, the few times over the years that I knew a Tech just starting out, I would suggest strongly that they look at the older boxes like the OP's. You get a good heavy duty set of boxes with good slides and strong drawers for not a lot of money and when you are ready to go bigger, the Snap-On guy will probably give you what you have into them in trade. All that makes the OP's boxes still worth a bit.

The major downside of the single stacks for guys like me is the height. At 5'-7", the top drawers are tough without a step stool. :lol: (That is why I bolted 2 bottoms together back in late 80's)

Good discussion, folks. Always nice to hear the experiences of others.

Cheers,
Chris
 

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That's a nice setting you have there.
Plenty of square inches and a flat surface for placing stuff.
It would work for me in great style. :thumbup:

Thanks, Joel. These were bought one at a time used from my Snap-On guy in the late 80's. I was just starting out and more established Techs were upgrading to ball bearing slides so the old friction boxes were being traded in and sold cheap. As I needed more storage I added on. The bottoms were bolted together almost 30 years ago. It is a good set-up. We built a set like it except with BB slides (two-KR650's) for my brother-in-law a few years back. It took a while to find both of them on CL but I think he has less than $800 into it. Heck of a box for $800.

Cheers,
Chris
 

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When working on heavy duty diesels and equipment; the tools are heavier and larger.
The drawers in that box lack the depth to hold many of these tools. Stuffing large tools in sideways can be a hassle, The box is not as stable as a deeper box, either.. They are a far better fit for automobile mechanics.... Why do some Diesel Mechanics have these small boxes? When starting out in a trade, You may not have the funds to buy a new larger box.
So you buy what is affordable, and available, at the time.. You continue to purchase tools, and soon overload that box..

That is a good box for home use, automobile use. or lighter duty chores for anyone else.. But it is still not a heavy duty box..
. I had the mate to that SnapOn box, and gave it to My Youngest Son because it was not suitable for holding the heavy tools I filled it with.. Did I ever mention that I had the bottom of a KRA307F collapse.
SnapOn replaced that Roller cabinet under warranty. Two weeks later, I traded that unused new roller cabinet on a Heavy Duty Road Chest.. I then bought the original roller cabinet back from SnapOn at a salvage price. I repaired it, and took it home. That old KRA307F is built a heck of a lot stronger, and is almost 21" deep, but sadly; only 32" wide.. Way better suited, stronger, yet it still failed for it's intended use. Since 1981 that box has been pressed into lighter shop use three times. It has been holding gear pullers and smaller special tools the last few years, and gets moved very little. That one will eventually be given to My Oldest Son.

I also have two matching sets of Craftsman Griplatch boxes bought new in 2005. They were bought for moderate shop use, and have had zero problems.. Nice boxes, but their 18" depth chops the drawers when compared to a deeper box.. This is a short-******* for all these "skinny" 18" deep boxes... These two sets are now used for organized small parts, supplies, and fastener storage.. They are not overloaded, and are the most attractive setup I have ever used for parts storage.. A fifth cheapo Craftsman roller cabinet was purchased at the same time to hold My Tombstone Welder, and welding supplies.

My SnapOn Road Chest has been in My van for the last few years. It is unreal what it can hold it it's deep drawers. I bought it new but used ones are usually priced at $800 to $1000. The beast is My pet for many reasons, the main reason being it is heavy duty.

56" General? I have a set. Like My Road Chest, I am using it for what I bought it for, and that is holding tools.(?). Can it be overloaded?? I believe so. I found if I loaded a drawer heavy enough with large sockets, the belly of the drawer will drag on the drawer beneath it. However, not every Diesel Mechanic has to furnish their own 3/4" and !" drive sockets, both in hand drive and impact, metric and us, then add deep-well. But even if you have to furnish one set, and a batch of big wrenches they get heavy f a s t..
I chose to keep the large tools in their own steel cases and thus more portable. After all, I do most of my work offsite. The General is the strongest Roller Cabinet of the ones I have mentioned.. Far Stronger than My old KRA307F, which is way far stronger than the mate I had to the OP.

Question for Everybody: Do You actually Enjoy working out of a box that is Overloaded?
Have you ever worried about a drawer slide breaking when opening a drawer?

A new 56" General roller cabinet can be bought for about the same money the OP'S combo can be bought for. It is over 22" deep, and can be used with or without a top chest.

The OP'S combo is a good set for many people, but definitely not all of us.. What more can I say. I tried one as an extra box for semi stationary tool storage.. It didn't work out for Me, so now My Son has a box well suited for a less demanding use :thumbup:
 

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The major downside of the single stacks for guys like me is the height. At 5'-7", the top drawers are tough without a step stool. :lol: (That is why I bolted 2 bottoms together back in late 80's)

Good discussion, folks. Always nice to hear the experiences of others.

Cheers,
Chris

Chris, I have never been a fan of skyscraper boxes.. On a Chest Roller combo, the top compartment is usually filled with sockets. Starting with the biggest sizes in the back. This helps counterweight the entire combo when a drawer is opened.. I know one fellow about Your height that wasn't aware there was a top compartment. This set was only 18" deep, leaving the casters with an even narrower tread.. It was sitting on a sloped floor, facing a pickup with less than a three foot walkway between them.. He opened an upper drawer and leaned over to reach a tool toward the rear.. It tipped without warning, pinning him against the pickup.. A fellow worker was outside and heard him yelling.. The two of them were able to push it back and free him..
What really scares Me is when a Little Helper uses the lower drawers for a step ladder to get to the top :scared:
 

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BDT/NWMN, Thanks for the detailed response. Now I can see where your definition of "Heavy Duty" comes from. It sounds like you push those things hard. My time as a Tech went from an auto garage to then getting hired onto a race team that ran BMW's. So I went from light automotive to even lighter race cars. To this day I only have a few 3/4 drive sockets. Like most, everything in my box is 1/4-1/2 with wrenches to 36mm and 1-1/2. It sounds like kids stuff compared to the nuts and bolts you are used to seeing.

On 18" chests being tippy... I remember seeing a large roll-cab (KRL1000) go over with 4 drawers fully extended. Thank goodness the only casualty was the box. Goes to show it can happen with any of them. Like most all of us learned early on, we always got into the habit of having only one drawer open at a time. It sounds like your coworker had everything going wrong at the same time (the floor/etc). Glad he wasn't hurt.

Anyway, thanks for the response and clarification. I appreciate it.

To the OP... Sorry for the hijack. I hope that if this thread comes up in a search folks can take something from it and our ramblings have been worth the read.

Cheers,
Chris
 
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In my area the market for the the OP's boxes are the guys with a couple of hot rods, a Harley and maybe an old tractor for the acreage.

The smallest new Snap-on KRL combination costs $7,600 cad. Finding a 20 to 25 year old Snap-on KR box in good shape is worth something.

We always put the heavy stuff on shelving/racking. 1" impacts and sockets. 3/4" drive sets. and large pullers and wrenches This stuff takes up too much room in a tool box.
 

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"back in the day" i saw a LOT of kr537 boxes in heavy eq shops.

my kr537/kr300 was owned and used by a heavy eq mechanic.

it's in original condition..

matco 900 series boxes were also very popular


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