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NAYLOR

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That's right. I ordered a couple ratchets from McMaster and I was most surprised when I opened the box. They sent me dual 80's! WTF? I'm afraid I won't be keeping them since they are a little too blingy. None the less, I thought it was funny and it's odd that McMaster's price is less than the SO website. I guess everyone gets discounts on the truck?

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LawnDart79

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Why would you not keep them? ...unless you're afraid the help will steal them, then I could understand.
 

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You ordered them, they were cheaper than the SO website...but you won't be keeping them b/c they're too blingy...?? I guess I fail to see your logic.
 

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Some people seemed to have trouble believing me, but McMaster sells very good brands at reasonable prices.

I just got a full set of Wera hex plus T-handles from them for cheaper than I could from Chad's toolbox or Amazon, and they came the day after I ordered them.

They also sell Wiha, Erem, Bahco, Armstrong, Martin, Wright, Proto, all kinds of good stuff.

Generally, McMaster's prices are very reasonable. The thing I love best though, is that you can order just about any item blind from them, and be assured that you're getting a quality prouct.
 

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GREAT place to get stuff. Orders are fast, and I've never gotten anything less than Proto from them. Tons of oddball stuff on there too.
 

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I don't get it,It's a guessing game on what brand of tool you will receive at any given time?

In short, yes. But in return, you're almost guarenteed a great brand and great quality. Not happy with it? Return it and they'll accomodate your every need. Wonderful customer service, quick delivery. Nothing to dislike about it.

Sure, you can't pick exactly what brand you want. But everything else about the deal is sweet. Including the prices :D
 

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The dual 80s are the bestest!!

If I could afford it I'd give away all my other ratchets and just have dual 80s.
 

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Shipping is also very reasonable are very fast in my experiences.

if you put in a will-call order, it will be ready for pickup in 45 minutes, never failed on me.

now, the closest one is in the next state, so no tax?
 
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NAYLOR

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You ordered them, they were cheaper than the SO website...but you won't be keeping them b/c they're too blingy...?? I guess I fail to see your logic.

I work at an assembly plant and the tools are not for me. If I put them on the floor they won't be there the next day. It ***** but that the way it is.
 

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Most of McMaster's customers are corporate/industrial, they don't care what name is on the tool as long as it is of good quality. The concern is about quality and performance, not manufacturer.

That said, a lot of the time you can tell what you are getting simply by the illustration in their catalog. For specialized tools and hand power tools, they often will show the brand.

I said this in another thread, but I've ordered literally thousands of times from McMaster, and have been dissapointed less than ten.
 

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I work at an assembly plant and the tools are not for me. If I put them on the floor they won't be there the next day. It ***** but that the way it is.

This just thread keeps getting better and better...LOLOLOLOLOL!

So you want tools that are just adequate enough to do the job in an industrial work setting, but not sooooooo good that your employees or co-workers will feel compelled to steal them.

Well good luck with THAT.

Geesh.

No wonder overseas outsourcing is loved by corporate management, purchasing, bean-counters and human resources.
 
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I've ordered a bunch of sockets, both chrome and impact from mcmaster, and they have all turned out to be Proto - which is perfectly fine with me! If order before about 10am, I'll have it by 4 when I leave.

Side note, after buying from them for ~6 years I finally got a paper catalog:) I don't use it much cause their website is awesome, but its cool none the less.
 
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You wouldn't understand unless you worked in industry.

I do.
And for many year with one of the top three military contractors in the world.
In an industrial setting.
Which involved floor mfgr.
With thousands of employees.

Ur doing it wrong.
 

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This is interesting. I've known about McMaster for bolts and stuff, but never considered them for tools. It's almost like an identification game for some of their tools. If you're bored, I guess it could be kinda fun...

To me it looks like their "(A) Ergonomic Style" bit driver:

insert bit screwdrivers

is the Wera Kraftform:

WERA 819/1/6 BITHLDNG S/D MAG 1/4" HEX WITH 6 BITS

Is shipping relatively inexpensive? It won't let me calculate shipping without inputing my CC info and I don't want to do that.

Chad's wants $8.95 to ship this Wera driver. Can someone with an account see how much McMaster's shipping would be for this single item?


-Bp
 
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they cant sell snap on tools to the public unless they bought them from a dealer and are re-selling them. Snap on does not allow resale except through the dealer force.
another site was advertising blue point new tools on a plumbing site and snap on made them pull the ads. I bet they have a national account and are in violation of their agreement with snap on.
 

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I believe that they're part of the industrial supply chain.

About 10 years ago I needed to buy an inch pound torque wrench for the company I was working for. I checked with my Snap-On dealer first but McMaster was significantly cheaper. I prefer Snap-On for almost everything but McMaster almost always has top quality stuff and I felt obligated to ignore my personal preference and save the company some money so I ordered from McMaster. Much to my surprise the wrench from McMaster was the exact same one as what my dealer had. By mere coincidence I was having lunch with my Snap-On dealer and his zone rep the next day. I told them the story and the rep checked into it and was told that McMaster was part of the industrial supply chain.
 

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The Ratcheting T handles definitely look like SO,who is going to bite the bullet and give it a try? that's about 1/2 the SO price.There is a good chance it's a Williams driver also.
 

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The convertable snap ring pliers photo is the exact same one from snap on's website, except it is black and white. $130 instead of 220 is pretty sweet....
 

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What I don't get is the idea that they don't post clear photos of tools, nor do they show brands. Who buys a $100 ratchet without knowing exactly what they are getting?

I do get the fact that they don't sell any junk stuff, but still, you'd think they'd do a better job with either photos or showing what brand they are selling.
 

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What I don't get is the idea that they don't post clear photos of tools, nor do they show brands. Who buys a $100 ratchet without knowing exactly what they are getting?

I do get the fact that they don't sell any junk stuff, but still, you'd think they'd do a better job with either photos or showing what brand they are selling.

As I was saying before, it just really is not an issue with most industrial buyers.

Just to give you an example... My boss recently told us to purchase a 3/4" torque wrench. I asked him if he cared what brand it was, and he said no, as long as it was US made.

I did some shopping around, and later came back to him with prices on several brands. As soon as I started talking, he cut me off, and said to just buy something.

Most industrial guys aren't really like car guys... as long as the tool is dependable, they typically don't really care what it says on it. I've seen that repeated in my 15 years or so in this career.

I'm not sure what the reason is, but it is what it is. When I start talking tool brands to people at work, they look at me like I'm crazy.
 

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As I was saying before, it just really is not an issue with most industrial buyers.

Just to give you an example... My boss recently told us to purchase a 3/4" torque wrench. I asked him if he cared what brand it was, and he said no, as long as it was US made.

I did some shopping around, and later came back to him with prices on several brands. As soon as I started talking, he cut me off, and said to just buy something.

Most industrial guys aren't really like car guys... as long as the tool is dependable, they typically don't really care what it says on it. I've seen that repeated in my 15 years or so in this career.

I'm not sure what the reason is, but it is what it is. When I start talking tool brands to people at work, they look at me like I'm crazy.

We manufacture various types of equipment where I work and I have similar experience with the assemblers.
 

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As I was saying before, it just really is not an issue with most industrial buyers.

I did some shopping around, and later came back to him with prices on several brands. As soon as I started talking, he cut me off, and said to just buy something.

That's the same line towed by our purchasing dept..
US made and must fit within the allowed P.O. cost listed for that item. Floor mgmt. only cares if the tool is accurate, reliable (meaning as little down time as possible) and serviceable (meaning non-disposable.) They are just not that brand savvy, but only a few suppliers meet the listed criteria so there is little room to error on any given purchase.

When the floor tool foreman is the purchaser on any PO, then it's the truck brands or top of the line US made mfgrs.
 

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There's a mcmaster about 25-30 minutes from me. If I order something online or on the phone at 8 AM, it is ready for pickup when I get there. Pretty amazing if you ask me.
 

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Same experience as the other guys in every place I worked, even vehicle shops (when it comes to shop tools)

Brands usually start with zero reputation as far as most industrial customers are concerned. They wouldn't have time to keep up with all the brands and models anyways.

Is $100 ratchet "expensive" if it keeps a $10million dollar machine up and running and produces $500k product in a shift? Does the $50 savings over another brand equal a real savings if 2 hours are spent researching them? (you can spend a lot more than 2 hours researching merits of various ratchets and still get no where)

They go with what the vendor has to offer and hold them responsible if it's not up to snuff. These industrial vendors know they risk losing big deals if they provide inferior products, so most of them offer higher quality tools "at all cost". Some also have economy lines separately. Others don't want the hassle and backlash of carrying them.
 

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I have been buying from mc master for almost 20 years...they are great...orders shows up next day
 

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Most of McMaster's customers are corporate/industrial, they don't care what name is on the tool as long as it is of good quality. The concern is about quality and performance, not manufacturer.

+1. It's not uncommon for industrial purchase orders to have "or like" language. As it's understandable that a distributor may not be able to obtain enough volume of a specific item in the needed time frame or may be able to source a better deal that benefits both.

I do.
And for many year with one of the top three military contractors in the world.
In an industrial setting.
Which involved floor mfgr.
With thousands of employees.

Ur doing it wrong.

NAYLOR is not doing it wrong, I'm sorry. Additionally, please keep your disdain for America to yourself, I would think you'd have learned that by now as a contractor for the military.

I'd also suggest you travel the world a bit more, what NAYLOR mentioned is not uncommon here or anywhere in the world. Especially in facilities with thousands of workers, many whom are gypsies and vagabond.... contractors, walking about.

NAYLOR's being realistic and attempting to protect his investment, which is understandable. I'd personally, just not leave things laying about unsecured though.

they cant sell snap on tools to the public unless they bought them from a dealer and are re-selling them. Snap on does not allow resale except through the dealer force.

Is that the issue than, selling to the public? As I've received Snap On tools from multiple industrial vendors over the years - as substitutes, although I've rarely ever seen them advertised. I wouldn't think it'd be an issue that would bother dealers like yourself, unless perhaps Grainger's or the like started into it.
 

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roots, Snap on thrives off os the mobile dealer. if they let every discount warehouse sell the stuff then it would drive us out of business super fast.
national / industrial accounts are for business use only and not for personal or resale ( overseas military contractors are an exception to that along with the shool programs )
but a business that buys and then turns and flips it is not allowed.
 

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NAYLOR is not doing it wrong, I'm sorry. Additionally, please keep your disdain for America to yourself, I would think you'd have learned that by now as a contractor for the military.

I'd also suggest you travel the world a bit more, what NAYLOR mentioned is not uncommon here or anywhere in the world. Especially in facilities with thousands of workers, many whom are gypsies and vagabond.... contractors, walking about.

NAYLOR's being realistic and attempting to protect his investment, which is understandable. I'd personally, just not leave things laying about unsecured though.
Hahaha.
Might want to "check yourself before you wreck yourself" there Roots.

NAYLOR is doing it wrong.

I've been on all but two continents.
I've lived overseas extensively.
I've been in many many mfgr. facilities all around the world.
All of the above professionally and NOT as a member of the military.

The OP did not list what country he was working in (but McMaster Carr was mention, so I assume North America), but as you know tool theft is nothing new to any industry in any part of the world.

****** tools breed ****** mfg. which breeds ****** products and often injur those using them.
So, either make your employee buy all their own tools, set up a tool crib where tools are checked out and employees are held accountable daily for thier return, issue tools for each employee when employed with a ser. # and hold employee accountable for their return if/when employment is terminated, assign a shop foreman to control a limited amt. of general use tools, but hold that individual responsible for their return, or a combination of the above.

If company tools are "getting legs" and being stolen, then it's not the fault of the tool but the fault of mgmt's inability to control their property. Downgrading tool quality to the point of possible injury, production slow- downs or even downtime is attempting to cure the symptom and not the disease and is really just a band-aid over a much bigger problem..
 

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roots, Snap on thrives off os the mobile dealer. if they let every discount warehouse sell the stuff then it would drive us out of business super fast.
national / industrial accounts are for business use only and not for personal or resale ( overseas military contractors are an exception to that along with the shool programs )
but a business that buys and then turns and flips it is not allowed.

Seems to me that McMaster is doing eactly that; they are buying at industrial/wholesale prices and reselling BELOW current list. I presume that means that McMaster is a Snap-on Industrial dealer??? Don't Snap-on industrial dealers generally PUSH Snap-on products...not hide the fact that they are selling Snap-on?

The fact that they sell these products to the general public, not just "industrial" clients, is a bit outside that "industrial" arrangement. I'm not putting down McMaster; I've bought some nice stuff from them in the past; but this whole situation does make me scratch my head a bit.
 
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