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NissanTechWill

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the Trusty family invented the polyurethane dead blow hammer. under the name of Comp-Cast, they made them for everybody back then included Snap On. in 1980, Stanley bought out Comp-Cast along with their patten rights.

later on, the younger Trusty's restarted making their own hammers, with improved design(1-piece machined hammer head vs. the original 2-piece head). the new design is much stronger, compares to the old one, the warranty rate dropped from 13% to <2%.

yes, they are 15 minutes from my house. I've been to their factory and given a tour by the owner. guess I'm a geek.

Thanks for the awesome info! I love hearing stories like these! Your post is what make GJ great!

-Will
 

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the Trusty family invented the polyurethane dead blow hammer. under the name of Comp-Cast, they made them for everybody back then included Snap On. in 1980, Stanley bought out Comp-Cast along with their patten rights.

later on, the younger Trusty's restarted making their own hammers, with improved design(1-piece machined hammer head vs. the original 2-piece head). the new design is much stronger, compares to the old one, the warranty rate dropped from 13% to <2%.

yes, they are 15 minutes from my house. I've been to their factory and given a tour by the owner. guess I'm a geek.

I just got the tour from the Owner Joel Trusty this morning. T100 is correct. They do make the Bluepoint DB sledges. Handled one personally today. They make and brand DB's for SK, Estwing, Armstrong, Matco, and others. They do not make any SO branded hammers anymore. I'd rather deal with them directly than the others. www.trustyhammers.com. Support good American small business!
 

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i have a small one and a 32 oz in green with grips; i dont know if the swing is any better
but the recoil isnt bad, and the black rubber keeps the hammer from slipping out of your hand
i bought a trusty cook, its pretty nice
but the handle isnt as grippy
 

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Work has the SO hammers and I think it’s all about what your needs are. If you are using it every day and the warranty is appealing then go for it. I do not that quality of hammer at home so I buy cheaper ones. (Start the I’m not supporting America responses now).
 

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You and your buddy are drivng a master pin out on a hoe, processor, whatever, 4 hours down a logging road and you break your fancy dancy Wilton or whatever, you going need tha 1000 bucks alright to recoupe your cost. Sure, you probally got another sledge. But. I can carry a spare handle, even be realy hilly billy and make one handle out of wood and keep going.

No disrespect to you, I know what you mean. Just like to keep it simple. Think we as a whole soseity are getting away from pure basic and the kiss theroy. Again, didnt mean to step on your toes.

If the guy worked 4 hours down a logging road with no snap on man he probley wouldnt be considering that hammer. If at anytime I need tool or I break a tool its a quick call to my snap on or cornwell guy and if its on hand its to me within hours without having to step away from making money. A hammer is one of the most important, used, abused and broken tools there is so how is buying a quality hammer different from any other tool being used in a everyday profession. I would rather buy a hammer thats not gonna break (wilton) or atleast outlast 25 of your wooden handles. How much is your time worth to be screwing off with hammer handles or making a hammer handle because you bought a pos hammer. Cheap hammers are great Ive got cheapies at home but at work I like having my hammer breaking to not be a worry of mine. You get what you pay for if someone sold wood handled hammers with wiltons warranty they would be belly up.

Not trying to step on your toes to much either just stating that most people are not in your situation, theres more then 1 way to look at your situation, and you could relate your logic to any tools. You could have a stanley wrench set and a back up harbor freight set but that doesnt mean that snap ons are a bad investment.
 
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$70 when you could get an Estwing or Vaughn for significantly less?

I'll be waiting for the Snap-on guys to say how much more soothing swinging a Snap-on hammer is over an Estwing.

I have Snappy, Mac, Vaughn, C-man all in my toolbox. I like them all.
 

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I don't know if they are any good, but I want one of those space hammers, they just look too cool with the overmolded plastic over metal faces. No way am I paying new, or so far even used Snapon prices for one, but I keep looking. Nupla and HF are working fine in the meantime.
 

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back to OP's question, yes, it's worth it.

as for warranty, it depends. I was told by a Snap On dealer right in my face: Snap On doesn't have lifetime warranty anything plastic or wood. guess who didn't get my money.

on the other hand, my boss is a sucker of Snap On. he's been buying off the truck for 40 years, there's nothing he can't get replaced, even broke taps and drill bits.

now for Trusty Cook, I remembered there's a thread couple years ago, a fellow GJ member wasn't really happy with his hammer, he called. the owner of TC sent him a new one free with hand written note thanking him.

I've compared my Trusty and my boss' Snap On, hands down the Snap On has better finish, the handle rubber inserts are softer, won't give you many blisters after a whole day of heavy hitting. Trusty is small family business, they make everything in house, including all the dies and molds. it's not as fancy, but all they care is about functionality. the head is cnc machined in house with American made raw steel, stell handle is pressed in and welded. and urethane shell is hat cast, they bound very well to steel.

I can't say anything bad about either one.
 

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back to OP's question, yes, it's worth it.

as for warranty, it depends. I was told by a Snap On dealer right in my face: Snap On doesn't have lifetime warranty anything plastic or wood. guess who didn't get my money.

on the other hand, my boss is a sucker of Snap On. he's been buying off the truck for 40 years, there's nothing he can't get replaced, even broke taps and drill bits.

now for Trusty Cook, I remembered there's a thread couple years ago, a fellow GJ member wasn't really happy with his hammer, he called. the owner of TC sent him a new one free with hand written note thanking him.

I've compared my Trusty and my boss' Snap On, hands down the Snap On has better finish, the handle rubber inserts are softer, won't give you many blisters after a whole day of heavy hitting. Trusty is small family business, they make everything in house, including all the dies and molds. it's not as fancy, but all they care is about functionality. the head is cnc machined in house with American made raw steel, stell handle is pressed in and welded. and urethane shell is hat cast, they bound very well to steel.

I can't say anything bad about either one.

Really? The hammers are lifetime plastic or not and taps and dies are covered also. I bought a dead blow (the kind with the shot inside) at the flea market and it was pretty beat up. I used it no lie 1 time and the plastic pretty much exploded off exposing the metal can. Snap on truck came and I got a brand new one.
 

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back to OP's question, yes, it's worth it.

as for warranty, it depends. I was told by a Snap On dealer right in my face: Snap On doesn't have lifetime warranty anything plastic or wood. guess who didn't get my money.

SO Warranty is fine.

In fact the faces and the ball ends on the S-O's DBBP's are replaceable.
On ALL models.

Again.

You pay to play.

Too cheap to buy real tools does not mean what that is out there is bad.

#dumbasses.
 
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t100

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Really? The hammers are lifetime plastic or not and taps and dies are covered also. I bought a dead blow (the kind with the shot inside) at the flea market and it was pretty beat up. I used it no lie 1 time and the plastic pretty much exploded off exposing the metal can. Snap on truck came and I got a brand new one.

now you understand how I feel about Snap On dealers.
 
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highclassjunkman

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You and your buddy are drivng a master pin out on a hoe, processor, whatever, 4 hours down a logging road and you break your fancy dancy Wilton or whatever, you going need tha 1000 bucks alright to recoupe your cost. Sure, you probally got another sledge. But. I can carry a spare handle, even be realy hilly billy and make one handle out of wood and keep going.

No disrespect to you, I know what you mean. Just like to keep it simple. Think we as a whole soseity are getting away from pure basic and the kiss theroy. Again, didnt mean to step on your toes.

When your wood handle breaks and sends the head through the windshield of the backhoe, your going to lose alot more than $1000. Point is, wilton is so confident in their product, they are willing to bet you roughly 20:1 odds that you CAN'T break it.
 

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now you understand how I feel about Snap On dealers.

Well it's a franchise. I don't hate all Mcdonald's restrants because the one close to my house didn't put a package of sweet N sour in the bag when I ordered a 10 pc nugget meal. :bounce:
 

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When your wood handle breaks and sends the head through the windshield of the backhoe, your going to lose alot more than $1000. Point is, wilton is so confident in their product, they are willing to bet you roughly 20:1 odds that you CAN'T break it.

I'll take that challenge if it's made in the USA:thumbup:
 

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Well it's a franchise. I don't hate all Mcdonald's restrants because the one close to my house didn't put a package of sweet N sour in the bag when I ordered a 10 pc nugget meal. :bounce:

well, like jjjrmx5 mentioned, most of the dealers I met had that "You pay to play" mentality. in reality, I don't have to pay to play. Snap On Industrial provides awesome service without the attitude.
 

tyheuser

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I'll take that challenge if it's made in the USA:thumbup:

Unfortunatly there not there made in mexico or south africa. If your only intent is to break it its probley possible otherwise I wouldnt count it. Another plus is there bitchen green and look good with the snap on green tool ****

Heres a video on them

 
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Unfortunatly there not there made in mexico or south africa. If your only intent is to break it its probley possible otherwise I wouldnt count it. Another plus is there bitchen green and look good with the snap on green tool ****

Heres a video on them


I think I'll stick with US made Snap on and Vaughn then. I haven't broke any ball pein hammers yet
 

tyheuser

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I think I'll stick with US made Snap on and Vaughn then. I haven't broke any ball pein hammers yet

Ya I cant blaim ya sears still has some nice usa ball peens and sledges atleast the ones without the ribbed ***** looking handles! I like a more traditional style grip lol I think there a rebadged Vaughn.
 

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Trusty cook makes their dead blows. The one you linked to. They can be had cheaper for the exact same summer minus the snap on logo.

http://www.trusty-cook.com/products_hammers.htm

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42 from manufacturer or 69 from snap on. Only worth it if the truck comes to you.
http://www.trustyhammers.com/dead_blow_ball_pein_hammers_s/1828.htm

The hammers they have on that site are not the same as the snap on version, the dead blow they show has a different head ill let others decide

http://www.trusty-cook.com/datasheet_deadblow.htm


I'm doing this on my phone so those links might be for mobile site,
But the difference is that snap have a freeflow shot design in their head,
The trusty cook version does not.
My 2c
 

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Worth it? Cook makes a very close copy for about 1/2 the cost. I love my Snapon if I had a choice I would have them all this style.:thumbup:
 

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IMO? No.

I like high quality tools and there are some Snap-On tools that I think are clearly superior to the competition and hence worth their extra cost but hammers are not one of those items IMO.

For wooden handle tools, I go with Vaughan (also sold under the Craftsman name). For indestructible all steel hammers, you can't beat Estwing. For dead blows I go with Trusty Cook (also sold under the Estwing name as well as many others) No, Trusty Cook does not make Snap On's dead blows but TC's are at least 99% as good IMO and sell for less then 50% of the price. For body hammers and dollies I go with Martin.

Vaughan, Estwing, Trusty Cook and Martin are all quality tools, made in the USA and sold at a much more reasonable prices then their Snap-On equivalents.
 
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