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Snap-On Heritage Boxes
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bobcatdan
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The KRA are damn good boxes, best built box that size. They are expesive new unless you can get a student discount on them. Used they tend to be priced overly high because the sell thinks, oh its a snap on and worth a ton. Guys rip on these boxes because everybody wants a giant triple bank, but if a 40" combo is going to serve your needs, don't worry about. Are they a krl, no, but think of the weight difference between a loaded 72" box vs a 40". They simply don't need to be a mini krl. I owned one and would own one again.
Scuderia-F1
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i´m VERY pleased with my KRA top & bottom boxes, and I´m always on the hunt for a couple more. Why I´m not into the bigger boxes is because of the footprint, they are way too deep for my small shop!
demonspeed
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I have a 41" top & bottom set. I've been a tech for 4 years and worked out of them for the entire time. I personally like them and they serve my needs. Not quite as nice as the krl's but they are still very nice. I think a lot of people who rip on them don't really know what they are talking about.
The only thing I have noticed is that mine scratch easily. I guess they must not use the same finish as the krl's. One of the scratches on the top shelf got some water or something in it, and it was under my toolbox mat so i didnt notice it until later. So now that area has some rust, which I'll need to sand down and respray. But if you keep an eye on the scratches you should be fine.
The only thing I have noticed is that mine scratch easily. I guess they must not use the same finish as the krl's. One of the scratches on the top shelf got some water or something in it, and it was under my toolbox mat so i didnt notice it until later. So now that area has some rust, which I'll need to sand down and respray. But if you keep an eye on the scratches you should be fine.
Todd.Brock
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I have 3 kra boxes. 4107b. Loaded with tools for 600 bucks. My second box I bought for 350 from a guy who was no longer a mechanic I bought the top 4110 ? I think ? For 400 I like the boxes, They may not be krl, but for the multiple thousands I saved for that much storage...it's hard to beat. I really like they are full width drawers.
I've got a 4107b as well. Paid $650 with a hutch and thought it was a good deal. Ended up replacing all the slides though which wasn't a problem. Its full though so will be looking for a KRL in the future. However after replacing the slides I'm pretty happy with it. Went from the HF 41" to that, mainly for the full width drawers.
SubaruGreg
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The heritage boxes are nice, but put them next to a KRL and there is a world of difference. If you can get one used for a good price I would say go for it, but for what SO wants for a new one there are better deals out there.
The classic 78 would be around the same price and a better box. I had the exact same two boxes your looking and and just replaced them with the classic 78 last month. The deeper drawers and having the space to work on top of the box are worth it. Also u will have more room in the 78 because there deeper and wider drawers.
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teletekman
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The KRA series is a fine entry level setup. I had both the KRA2312 & KRA2308 for almost 2 years now and have no regrets buying them. Granted they are a step below the Classic series and not near as strong as the KRL but they are also not near as expensive either.
Since you are buying this rig on a student discount, what line of work are you going into? Are you paying cash outright for this or making payments?
Since you are buying this rig on a student discount, what line of work are you going into? Are you paying cash outright for this or making payments?
Toolhorder
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I had a upper/lower I traded into my dealer for about half what I paid for it after 14 yrs. of use. Not a bad box but my used KRL is worlds better.
bobcatdan
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There is not a hell of a lot of difference between a heritage and classic. A classic is basiclly a 24" deep heritage. The casters are the same, maybe a 25 lbs difference in slides, otherwise construction is about the same.
There is not a hell of a lot of difference between a heritage and classic. A classic is basiclly a 24" deep heritage. The casters are the same, maybe a 25 lbs difference in slides, otherwise construction is about the same.
Not true the classic also has the 4 corner gussets where the heritage only has 2. The 4 makes it stronger if your moving it around full.
Murphy4570
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KRL guys like to rip on us KRA guys, both the Heritage and Classic boxes. Don't know why. Don't let them bother you, it's still a Snap-On box.
Hell, I have two KR side cabinets and a KRL hutch on my KRA-2411 Classic 78 box. Hate on that!
Hell, I have two KR side cabinets and a KRL hutch on my KRA-2411 Classic 78 box. Hate on that!
earlthegoat2
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Yeah KRLs are better but not worth the price compared to the KRAs. The only advantage the KRLs have is their usually superior drawer layout with many shallow drawers instead of a bunch of deep ones. Drawers all slide the same.
I used to have a KRA2312 and the only issue I noticed was the casters - I move my box around a lot, and when full it was noticeably harder to push than my current KRL1022. It was a fine box though, and if I hadn't outgrown it I'm sure I'd still be using it.
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el tanque prohibido
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Aren't the KRL boxes supposed to be made with thicker sheet metal?
Todd.Brock
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If you are buying new KRA on the student discount, you may find used krl for simar money. 2k on Craigslist will find a krl 722 or 1022
Ratchet.
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interesting, over here you rarely ever see the KRL Boxes, i actually don't recall ever seeing one, most guys seem to have KRA boxes, (what would be the classic 78 line in the US)
That said they market things differently here, the kra's aren't badged with classic or heritage on them, plus the fact that the krl's are more expensive here (a KRL1022 is $1600 more here) wouldn't be surprised if techs wages are lower over here too.....
Myself i have a KRA2411 rollcab with a KRA2410 Top Chest, they came as a package (that's the most common way box setups are sold here) with limited edition 'plaques' that fit inside the lid and on the front of the lower drawers, another common thing over here (not seen many like that on this forum, maybe they only sell them in Europe or the UK?) *i posted pics on the toolbox thread.
I'm real happy with it, seems well made and finished, though not having seen a KRL box i cant comment on the comparisons, the KRL,s do seem to look a bit sturdier and heavier, and better finished, but to be honest not much wrong with the KRA series, only thing that bugs me is the plastic drawer handle finishers, for the price they are i'd expect them to be anodized alluminium *my old box had alloy ones, not sure what model it was though, looked a lot like the current classic 60 rollcab though*
That said they market things differently here, the kra's aren't badged with classic or heritage on them, plus the fact that the krl's are more expensive here (a KRL1022 is $1600 more here) wouldn't be surprised if techs wages are lower over here too.....
Myself i have a KRA2411 rollcab with a KRA2410 Top Chest, they came as a package (that's the most common way box setups are sold here) with limited edition 'plaques' that fit inside the lid and on the front of the lower drawers, another common thing over here (not seen many like that on this forum, maybe they only sell them in Europe or the UK?) *i posted pics on the toolbox thread.
I'm real happy with it, seems well made and finished, though not having seen a KRL box i cant comment on the comparisons, the KRL,s do seem to look a bit sturdier and heavier, and better finished, but to be honest not much wrong with the KRA series, only thing that bugs me is the plastic drawer handle finishers, for the price they are i'd expect them to be anodized alluminium *my old box had alloy ones, not sure what model it was though, looked a lot like the current classic 60 rollcab though*
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demonspeed
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Yeah KRLs are better but not worth the price compared to the KRAs. The only advantage the KRLs have is their usually superior drawer layout with many shallow drawers instead of a bunch of deep ones. Drawers all slide the same.
I would have to disagree with that. Most of the Krl's seem to have a sturdier "frame" design on them. look at the edges of a good krl box and look at the bars between the drawer banks. Kra's seem to have a frame that is made out of a lot more sheetmetal rather than square tube. I think the drawers are deeper also and the finish seems to be a lot more durable. Don't quote me on this because I'm guessing here, but it seems like the krl's have more of a powdercoat finish and the kra's finish is more like paint. But as I said earlier, I've been pretty happy with my kra. It's a quality box.
TheDogHouse
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There is not a hell of a lot of difference between a heritage and classic. A classic is basiclly a 24" deep heritage. The casters are the same, maybe a 25 lbs difference in slides, otherwise construction is about the same.
Completely wrong on all counts. Heritage boxes are more like Craftsman boxes. I have a Classic box, and its not as nice as a KRL, but a LOT better than a friends Heritage KRA box. Beefier construction all around, more than just casters and drawer depth.
Amazes me that there's people spreading completely wrong information... do you also believe you can get AIDS from toilet seats?
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earlthegoat2
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Yeah KRLs are better but not worth the price compared to the KRAs. The only advantage the KRLs have is their usually superior drawer layout with many shallow drawers instead of a bunch of deep ones. Drawers all slide the same.
I would have to disagree with that. Most of the Krl's seem to have a sturdier "frame" design on them. look at the edges of a good krl box and look at the bars between the drawer banks. Kra's seem to have a frame that is made out of a lot more sheetmetal rather than square tube. I think the drawers are deeper also and the finish seems to be a lot more durable. Don't quote me on this because I'm guessing here, but it seems like the krl's have more of a powdercoat finish and the kra's finish is more like paint. But as I said earlier, I've been pretty happy with my kra. It's a quality box.
Your right but that is kind of my point. There are not enough practical differences for the average tech to justify the extra expense. Sturdier frame and a more durable finish are nice luxuries bot not necessary for a working box. I think the biggest attention needs to be paid to drawer layout. That is my big thing. Everyone knows Snap On makes a quality box whether it is a Heritage, Classic, or KRL. After that it is just up to what is more practical within Snappy's own drawer layout constraints.
I hope the previous poster comparing a Heritage to a Craftsman box was only being facetious to prove a point because there aint no comparing the two.
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Woodward_Dreams
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All snap on boxes are good. I own a Classic 78, i have a buddy with a heritage series and there are several krls in our shop.
There is a difference in all of the snap on lines. The Classic was perfect for me because it was a good size and had the options i wanted on it. The krl slides feel better and can hold more weight. that said, my classic 78 is awesome and i dont regret not buying a krl.
There's a reason krls are expensive. they are that good, but a classic 78 is also an amazing box (hence the list price of $4300)
There is a difference in all of the snap on lines. The Classic was perfect for me because it was a good size and had the options i wanted on it. The krl slides feel better and can hold more weight. that said, my classic 78 is awesome and i dont regret not buying a krl.
There's a reason krls are expensive. they are that good, but a classic 78 is also an amazing box (hence the list price of $4300)