Snap-On KTL1022A Pricing

[The Critic]

I have been in the market for a 55" box that is 30" deep.

My original plan was to buy a Tool Vault Elite 55" or a used KTL1022A, but my Snap-On dealer has a new KTL1022A in a "less desirable" color scheme that he is open to offers on.

What is the going rate for the KTL1022A, new? I understand that there is a lot of wiggle room in box prices. This would be a cash deal with no trade involved.

edit: it is a KMP1022, not a KTL1022.

 

[Daslucas]

an apprentice at the shop I work at recently bought one, he paid roughly 7500 and traded in a milwaukee box for 500. Not what I’d consider a hot deal, but it’s a data point.

 

[afazz]

Last week my dealer quoted me $9,236 for a brand new KTL1022APBO1, which includes the stainless top. That was a total price for a brand new box, including 6% sales tax and delivery, with no trade-in. That also included an instant rebate from Snap-on credit. I would have “financed” the box then paid it off within 90 days (which I have done three times now) to capture the factory subsidized rebate.

I did not consider this a good enough price to close the deal.

 

[2ndGearRubber]

I wouldn't be interested for more than 5. That's probably not a "hot" deal price, but where I would expect it to move. See if there are rebates for financing, then pay it off instantly or during the same as cash period.

 

[Daslucas]

Snap-on’s pricing on tool boxes in general is majorly out to lunch at the moment. They’ve been selling everything they build and capacity is booked out for months so it makes sense I guess from a business standpoint but no way in hell should anyone pay more than 5k for a ktl1022, that’s nuts.

Hopefully things settle down a bit over the next year so that I can finally order a locker for my epiq series.

 

[2ndGearRubber]

FWIW buying a used snap on box, for trade in purposes, can be worthwhile. I paid $800 all in (made new liners, re-keyed) for a tipped over single bay top/botton KRL. Snappy gave my $1000 "for it" on trade after I outgrew it as an extras box.

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

I have been in the market for a 55" box that is 30" deep.

My original plan was to buy a Tool Vault Elite 55" or a used KTL1022A, but my Snap-On dealer has a new KTL1022A in a "less desirable" color scheme that he is open to offers on.

What is the going rate for the KTL1022A, new? I understand that there is a lot of wiggle room in box prices. This would be a cash deal with no trade involved.

KTL?

 

[The Critic]

KTL?

Snap-on Store

shop.snapon.com

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

Snap-on Store

shop.snapon.com

When did they start that designation? Any substantial changes from the KRL?

 

[The Critic]

When did they start that designation? Any substantial changes from the KRL?

I think the only difference is the additional long drawer but I am not 100% positive.

 

[yellowbox]

How much is the tool vault box?
Let him make first offer
What color is less than desirable? There isn't really any bad colors for boxes

 

[yellowbox]

That tool vault 55 elite in white looks great for 3k
As others have said 5k for snap on tops , or take the elite
The drawer set up is better on the snapon box though
Storage amount is the same
OK maybe 6k tops lol
I have 30 inch deep box , wouldn't even consider anything less than that

 

[afazz]

The KTL1022 is different from the KRL1022 only in the extra full-width drawer. I did not confirm with my dealer to see if they can still be ordered, but the KRL1022 is no longer on the website. Only the KMP1022 (with power drawer) and KTL1022 (with 3 full-length drawers) are available in the "1022" size box.

I have been tracking the price of these since 2019 as a planned expansion to my current setup. The price has increased exactly $1,100 in the past year ($10,800 for a KTL1022APBO1 on 12/2/2021 vs. $11,900 today 12/2/2022). I just checked the website again, and it has gone up $175 since last week when I had my dealer quote it!!!! A KRL1022DPBO, without the stainless top, was $9,695 in June 2020 and $8,620 in March 2019. I doubt $5,000 for a brand new Snap-on KTL1022 box is feasible these days. I would expect ~$6,000-7,000 without the SS top and all possible discounts. Anything less would be a spectacular deal, but it doesn't hurt to make an offer!

The used market has not gone up substantially over the same time period, I see these listed in the $2,500-$5,000 range but haven't found one in my color yet.

 

[Rinspeed]

I have a KRL1022 but it's the 13 drawer model. I agree with looking for a slightly used one.

 

[MOS3522]

Used is the way to go. I bought a used KRL-1003 just a few weeks ago for about 20% of what the equivalent box sells for today. As long as the cab is in good shape (and there are no liens), then it's going to save you megabucks.

 

[BarrelRoll]

I sent you a PM about pricing. I'm in agreement $5k is decent, I wouldn't pay more than $7k for that box if he wants to move it and you really like it. Unless you think it's a really good deal I'd hold out for a 60 or 68" Epiq, see below why I would wait.

My rep had a KMP1022 on the truck a year ago October that had been on the truck a couple months. I "bought it" though ordered a matching top box. He wasn't going to run the deal through before the top box showed up because I was going to save an extra $1,500 in rebates running both the top and bottom box through at the same time. In May snapon canceled the top box stating it would no longer fit the bottom box because of a design change. Snapon no longer lists 29" deep top boxes on their web site though does list hutches and side lockers. A lot of the older and newer masters stuff may not interchange and it appears snapon is trying to phase out some master series options to force you into an epiq. When you catch an epiq on special it's really close to a masters pricing wise and has much more potential to add on.

If you are willing to wait and have a good relationship with your rep they can get some really good deals at the tool show in August. I ended up having my rep grab me a grey and purple version of the box below at the show. I can't remember exact numbers though I believe it was a couple grand savings waiting for him to grab it at the show vs ordering ahead of time. This is the setup I wanted and it just happened to be at the show on special.

Trade in is another thing to consider. I'm trading in a Knack box with a china freight top box bolted on top for $2,100 which is what I paid for the boxes, bottom was used, top was new. Some reps may give you full retail on a snapon and what you paid for a non snapon box. Working the trade in angle may be to your advantage. If you think you are going to have to upgrade the tool vault may get you nowhere near the trade in a snapon will. I went with the setup below because if I run out of room I can just add another box to it instead of trading everything in to upgrade. Now days the masters boxes are just stepping stones to get you into an epiq when you out grow it.

 

[The Critic]

Update:

It was actually a KMP1022, not a KTL1022. MSRP on the box is $11.5K. He offered to sell for $5500. He also had some EPIQ 60" boxes coming in the next month that would be about $1k more.

I have been searching for a used KTL1022 or KMP1022, but have not been able to find one. All of the used boxes I see are the Classic Series.

 

[Daslucas]

Get the 60 epiq, then bolt another one onto it when you run out of room

 

[Snapped-off]

My previous dealer had a KMP1022 in blue and orange for 4500 this Spring. Nobody wanted it.

 

[ianguilly]

I dont think $5500 is terrible for KMP1022. The epic might be a slightly better investment value and space wise.

 

[BarrelRoll]

If you are buying new the epiq is the best long term option. If you do want to upgrade trade in will be worth more on the epiq. If you go to sell it on the used market the epiq will demand the most money. The epiq are also very modular to add on to, masters used to be though a lot of the parts are now out of production.

The used market is tough if you are looking for 29 or 30" deep box. There's a lot of classics and skinny masters people want gone. If you want more than just a bottom box you better buy it as a complete setup (bottom, hutch or top box, side lockers, ect.) because the odds of finding the parts to expand aren't good. A lot of the deeper boxes get traded in, repoed, or people are asking what you can get them new off the truck for them.

Wait for your rep to get one in for truck stock you like or for the tool show. The truck stock boxes usually have more room to move on them than ordering exactly what you want. Snapon does a large run of the same exact box and offers them to dealers at a slight discount. I'm pretty sure that's what the 1022 your rep has even if your guy won't admit it, that color combo is pretty common.

 

[gmole]

Look at lista or vidmar.

 

[MOS3522]

If you are buying new the epiq is the best long term option. If you do want to upgrade trade in will be worth more on the epiq. If you go to sell it on the used market the epiq will demand the most money. The epiq are also very modular to add on to, masters used to be though a lot of the parts are now out of production.

The used market is tough if you are looking for 29 or 30" deep box. There's a lot of classics and skinny masters people want gone. If you want more than just a bottom box you better buy it as a complete setup (bottom, hutch or top box, side lockers, ect.) because the odds of finding the parts to expand aren't good. A lot of the deeper boxes get traded in, repoed, or people are asking what you can get them new off the truck for them.

Wait for your rep to get one in for truck stock you like or for the tool show. The truck stock boxes usually have more room to move on them than ordering exactly what you want. Snapon does a large run of the same exact box and offers them to dealers at a slight discount. I'm pretty sure that's what the 1022 your rep has even if your guy won't admit it, that color combo is pretty common.

I don't disagree with anything specific in your post other than to say there are tons and tons of the 29" boxes out there, so finding hutches and side cabinets is not hard. And at the end of the day you save a lot of $$$ in a used box.

For that matter at the price of a new Epiq, I might instead buy one of the high end Harbor Freight Icon boxes for 50% of the cost. While HF may not be quite as good as Snap On, the Icon are good enough when taking into account the money you save.

 

[2ndGearRubber]

I don't disagree with anything specific in your post other than to say there are tons and tons of the 29" boxes out there, so finding hutches and side cabinets is not hard. And at the end of the day you save a lot of $$$ in a used box.

For that matter at the price of a new Epiq, I might instead buy one of the high end Harbor Freight Icon boxes for 50% of the cost. While HF may not be quite as good as Snap On, the Icon are good enough when taking into account the money you save.

Issue is you're getting 50% off, but losing support, parts, and any ability to retain value if you ever trade it out. And if you're buying a cheaper "prosumer" box like homak, icon, tool vault, you gamble the support and resale/trade. But it can totally be worth it, I bought a $600 Montezuma cart and used it for 6-7 years? Before it finally got worn out to the point I needed to replace it. Probably got 2 sets of wheels, half the slides replaced, 1 set of new drawer liners, and needed a whole new set of liners and half the slides again.


That's part of the shell game you play. I paid 2250 for a solus in 2020. I used it for 2 years, never updated, and traded it plus 1800 for a current 22.4 used zeus. I made more than 2250 in diag time alone, let alone the repairs. Same deal when they wanted to sell me a Mr big. They'll buy my used stuff back at what I paid, after using it for 1-8 years depending on the box.

 

[The Critic]

I don't disagree with anything specific in your post other than to say there are tons and tons of the 29" boxes out there, so finding hutches and side cabinets is not hard. And at the end of the day you save a lot of $$$ in a used box.

For that matter at the price of a new Epiq, I might instead buy one of the high end Harbor Freight Icon boxes for 50% of the cost. While HF may not be quite as good as Snap On, the Icon are good enough when taking into account the money you save.

However.....a used KTL/KMP is over $3K. And I heard there is no warranty on used boxes?

If I can get a new one for $5K with a full warranty, the used one isn't exactly a screaming deal anymore.

 

[MOS3522]

I don't know if there is a warranty on used boxes - frankly, I'd be surprised - but used you should be getting a good 72" box for a bit less than half of what a 60 Epiq costs new.

Guaranteed no matter what size box you buy it will always end up being too small!

 

[The Critic]

I don't know if there is a warranty on used boxes - frankly, I'd be surprised - but used you should be getting a good 72" box for a bit less than half of what a 60 Epiq costs new.

Guaranteed no matter what size box you buy it will always end up being too small!

I'd love to buy a used 72" box for under $3K - but I have not seen any for that price range. All of the ones under $3k are the Classic series 54" ones and in well-used shape.

Perhaps there are some regional differences here?

 

[MOS3522]

I'd love to buy a used 72" box for under $3K - but I have not seen any for that price range. All of the ones under $3k are the Classic series 54" ones and in well-used shape.

Perhaps there are some regional differences here?

Took me 6 or 7 weeks of watching facebook to find mine, but I found one. This was in the Denver area.

 

[yellowbox]

However.....a used KTL/KMP is over $3K. And I heard there is no warranty on used boxes?lol warranty things for ya

If I can get a new one for $5K with a full warranty, the used one isn't exactly a screaming deal anymore.

A good dealer will warranty things for ya , slides etc
But if box is in good condition when you buy it , you won't need warranty

 

[The Critic]

I dont think $5500 is terrible for KMP1022. The epic might be a slightly better investment value and space wise.

To add another wrench into the equation: SO guy has a new EPIQ 60" that he is willing to sell me for $5500. The color combo is a bit odd, but workable.

 

[ianguilly]

To add another wrench into the equation: SO guy has a new EPIQ 60" that he is willing to sell me for $5500. The color combo is a bit odd, but workable.

I'd say at that point it just comes down to what you want and think will be the best box. Neither is a bad choice. At $5k I wouldn't want a color I don't like or find odd but esthetic are important to me.

 

[joel63]

Took me 6 or 7 weeks of watching facebook to find mine, but I found one. This was in the Denver area.

Very nice box, should serve you well.
You know what the model number is?

 

[-Stew-]

I paid $5,100 for a KRL1023, 30 inch deep triple bank with butcher block top and hutch.

Unless you got money to burn, buy used. No hutch triple banks go for about 3-4k used.

 

[MOS3522]

Very nice box, should serve you well.
You know what the model number is?

KRL-1003. An older box but rock solid and more than I need. I am looking for a smaller box now for my second workshop.

 

[Jon h]

My son just got a new KTL 1022 from my SO dealer for $5900 cnd. Just thought I would add to thread at current 2024 prices.
It’s a huge box……

 

[Wamsutta]

My original plan was to buy a Tool Vault Elite 55" or a used KTL1022A, but my Snap-On dealer has a new KTL1022A in a "less desirable" color scheme that he is open to offers on.

What was the "less desirable" color scheme?

 

[The Critic]

What was the "less desirable" color scheme?

I want to say Black.