michelin
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That Mac looks delicious. Is it a stubby version or full size? Wish it was pictured next to others for comparison.
Snap on losing their minds? 1/2” impact
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That Mac looks delicious. Is it a stubby version or full size? Wish it was pictured next to others for comparison.
WittHay
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They have a compact version and the high powered one along with mid powered. They all look similar. My Mac dealer has sold a bunch of the high powered ones.
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I've never had an issue with composite body impacts, my most used one is a facom compact 1/2". Apart from a few scratches it still works like new.
Those Mac impacts feel great in the hand, i wouldn't even look at the snap-on over them. A few in work also have nitrocats, and they have excellent power.
Those Mac impacts feel great in the hand, i wouldn't even look at the snap-on over them. A few in work also have nitrocats, and they have excellent power.
tslater1989
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I have 2 IR titanium guns. Both have been through hell. Broke one so far. But had it fixed pretty quick as parts are available online. The part that broke was metal. Composite is holding up just fine. Keep in mind these are used in an industrial application. I change out tooling for injection molding. Just my 2 cents.
If you think the MG line is nice you'll love the IR guns and especially spending half as much money. I'd find a local store selling impacts and try one out to see how you like it.
Snap on has a new business model where they are taking advantage of technicians and charging ridiculous pricing based on the fact that these guys cannot afford to outright buy and the convenience and finance justify everything. It is insane when I see what my techs pay for tools. I like you have a lot of older snap on but the new stuff is crazy. I tell the young kids to not go crazy and try to steer them to better buys except for the musts like screwdrivers/pliers.
FSrepair&fabrication
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Most guys who are doing serious work away from the shop that requires air have a compressor mounted on the truck. The only limit is how far your hoses can reach.
FSrepair&fabrication
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I likethe look of those the mac guns. We havent had a mac dealer in years so I have no idea what theyre selling these days. Do they take a little battery or something for the light on the nose?
Wamsutta
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Those candy apple red MACs are too pretty to use. I'd be afraid to get a scratch on it.
Lassen Forge
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A VFR-only passenger jet? That'd be interesting...
"This is your captain, we apologize for the delay, we are waiting for the clouds to clear over our destination before we can land, as if we fly through them our engines will quit..."
People make dumb financial choices everyday, but instead of blaming the person who spent the money, people instead give them a pass and blame the company...
Don’t like the price? Go be poor somewhere else.
E.Marquez
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People make dumb financial choices everyday, but instead of blaming the person who spent the money, people instead give them a pass and blame the company...
Don’t like the price? Go be poor somewhere else.
To add on to that
snap on the business model hasn’t changed at all from day one.
they provide a superior product at a known price, allowing a tech a line of credit if deserved so they can have the required tools of their chosen trade, bringing the service directly to the technician all while providing world-class after sales service.
Don’t like that
Save your Penney’s and shop at Lowe’s
That is a well established plan of many former mechanics turned cashier, laborer, parking lot attendant.
You don’t need Snap-on to be a great tech, but a great tech does understand the true value of snap on products.
WittHay
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Its a detachable light used with a USB cable and charger
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FSrepair&fabrication
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That is the ****. Whats your experience with it? Is it easily breakable if youre being careless?
kctyphoon
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kctyphoon
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Same could be said about Milwaukee Fuel, since you know HF has their line of electric impact tools too...
Wamsutta
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"Speak up or maybe I shouldn't."
I like that.
Certain products. A lot of them are simply a waste, or under perform. Look at their power tools, what is the true value of snap on there?
You need to look at all options available and make your choice based on that and cost. For snap on, my favorites are the hand tools such as sockets, wrenches, ratchets, extensions. I've bought a lot of their air and electric tools. The air tools don't hold up any better or perform any better than other cheaper brands. I haven't bought snap on air tools in a long time. I do like their electric ratchets and feel they perform better than anything else I've seen.
As far as composite air tools, they're fine. I have a composite matco impact that over 10 years old and been dropped at least a hundred times. Still works great.
As far as composite air tools, they're fine. I have a composite matco impact that over 10 years old and been dropped at least a hundred times. Still works great.
kctyphoon
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Why have so many people jumped on the Milwaukee impact band wagon? Is it just because of brand loyalty - or did Milwaukee create products that compete with others that are more expensive, and sell them for less money while being just as reliable and productive? Most people would call that smart shopping.
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Ding ding ding. We have a winner!!
It's just weird that even HFs earthquake line smacks SOs air and electric impacts around for a fraction of the price let alone the good brands like IR
kctyphoon
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Now if he wants to compare Snap on’s hydraulic floor jack, to HF’s hydraulic floor jack - we can have that discussion.
At some point you just have to admit your getting raped because of the brand.. which is fine - as long as youre fine with that - but dont tell everyone else that they should be too, or criticize others because they decide to not give money away for little in return.
At some point you just have to admit your getting raped because of the brand.. which is fine - as long as youre fine with that - but dont tell everyone else that they should be too, or criticize others because they decide to not give money away for little in return.
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I find it funny you deleted the portion that is in bold.
The fact is the same argument about Snap On price can be also used on Milwaukee considering that Milwaukee is more expensive than cheapier brands like HF. You are ok spending money on Milwaukee where others think that you are over paying when HF has the same thing for less. Just like you keep getting your ******* in a twist over Snap On....
We get it, you do not like Snap On. But the same arguement you use for Milwaukee can easily be also said for Snap On and the arguments against Snap On can be said about Milwaukee..
We also get you don’t like the price of Snap On, no one forced you to buy them.
I own both Snap On and Milwaukee and own them outright or can afford to make the payment and do not ***** and whine about paying for my tools. I have a savings account, a nice house and car and doing just fine financially like I have brought to your attention before.
Bet you that I can argue that the truck you drive is a waste of money and you could have easily bought a cheapier vehicle that transports you and your tools just fine. People do it all the time, you don’t have to drive a truck for your job...
kctyphoon
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I edited my post to try and keep it more civil, and show a little class.. i suggest you think about using that edit option yourself sometimes.
My post is just fine as it is. I made a lot of points and the best you have is to say I should edit my post???
Those words you used, I don’t think they mean what you think they mean.
If you are going to use a floor jack MAYBE one time a year then the HF version would be better for you. If you are going to use it everyday then you will need something better... Sorry the facts do not lie, and driving all the way to HF to keep exchanging a floor jack that leaks or no longer pumps up because the internal seals went bad is going to cost you with down time and gas..
It comes down to what works best for you and your situation and HF is perfectly fine for a lot of people. Others not so much.
kctyphoon
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A long time ago, someone told me that if you were going to have strong opinions, you should know what youre talking about. I’d like to suggest you read up on how many people have bought that Daytona jack.
I also suggest you read up on why snap on sued over the hf Daytona floor jacks.
Where does that snap on jack come from ? You were saying??
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Reading comprehension is not your strong suit?
First I don’t have a Snap On floor jack, second never said HF jacks do not work, they do fail more often though then better made brands (many brands make hi quality and reliable floor jacks other than Snap On).
Why don’t you go back and answer my first points I made about about you jot beeding a truck to do your job or that the same arguements for/against snap on can be also used against Milwaukee??
kctyphoon
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Weren’t you just critiquing “reading comprehension”. See what i mean about editing..
I will indudgle you for a minute - my company provides me with a company vehicle that i take home. Its sitting in my driveway. I assume they felt it was necessary for my job, otherwise they would not be paying for it, or for all my travel and tool expenses either, or given me a company credit card and said - get whatever is gonna make your life easier. Hell - they even bought me the coffee i like and have it in their kitchen for when i show up in the morning. You asked and insisted i answer, so ....
As far as educating yourself on “facts” as you put it - here’s something important about a snap on floor jack. Are you starting to realize why so many people bought a Daytona at a fraction of the price, and WHY snap on was suing HF?
The more you know....
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sberry
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Hf is catching up. It wasnt so long ago that no one would consider a welding machine not one of the big 3. It was a price quality issue. Paying 60/70% of a brand for an iffy machine made it less attractive. Now at that same ratio the machine is real good and now we have some models got pretty good in the 20/30% range. Used to be the Sears wrench was in the 10% range of the snap, in sets now same quality as then for 5%. Can own some stuff in service worthy g
Quality for the cost of sales tax in my state. But it so cheap not ever worth insuring or taking exceptional care of other than it's utility value. Some returns on investment in a single incident.
Yes, someone makes a better load tested than the one I pay 50$ for but owning it quick and outright was super incentive to aquire it. Returned on the first use vs making the first payment.
Quality for the cost of sales tax in my state. But it so cheap not ever worth insuring or taking exceptional care of other than it's utility value. Some returns on investment in a single incident.
Yes, someone makes a better load tested than the one I pay 50$ for but owning it quick and outright was super incentive to aquire it. Returned on the first use vs making the first payment.
Wait... You are ALWAYS jumping into a thread about Snap On to criticize the brand...
Now with your comment, replace Snap On with Union, then we can talk about ****.
Weren’t you just critiquing “reading comprehension”. See what i mean about editing..
I will indudgle you for a minute - my company provides me with a company vehicle that i take home. Its sitting in my driveway. I assume they felt it was necessary for my job, otherwise they would not be paying for it, or for all my travel and tool expenses either, or given me a company credit card and said - get whatever is gonna make your life easier. Hell - they even bought me the coffee i like and have it in their kitchen for when i show up in the morning. You asked.....
As far as educating yourself on “facts” as you put it - here’s something important about a snap on floor jack. Are you starting to realize why so many people bought a Daytona at a fraction of the price, and WHY snap on was suing HF?
And some Snap On Cordless tools are/were made in China, same with Milwaukee tools. So really you just proved you are over paying for Milwaukee when you can just buy a tool from HF that is also made in China!
kctyphoon
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Narrative shift...
“Wait... You are ALWAYS jumping into a thread about Snap On to criticize the brand...
Now with your comment, replace Snap On with Union, then we can talk about ****.” - NGK22R
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Mikeske
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I have worked in both the aviation and vehicle maintenance fields for almost 45 years before I retired a couple years ago. I never got into who makes the best tools I used anything and everything that can do the job priced from cheap to expensive as long as I could buy it cash I was fine.
Get this I never in all the years ever bought any tools on credit it was always cash and carry. I always got what I could afford and so be it if I wanted a Snap-on item the first place I hop over to was a pawn shop to see what they had and if they had it I buy it. My Snap-on ratchets were all bought from the pawn shops at 1/4- 1/2 off of what they were on the truck. As long as they were not marked up I was fine.
For me I don’t need to buy fancy named brand products as long as I don’t work anymore. Jumping on a companies band wagon is ok but remember if something can be fixed a china special wrench can do the job might be crude and a bit rough but I have a friend that I known that used china specials his entire career in aviation.
Get this I never in all the years ever bought any tools on credit it was always cash and carry. I always got what I could afford and so be it if I wanted a Snap-on item the first place I hop over to was a pawn shop to see what they had and if they had it I buy it. My Snap-on ratchets were all bought from the pawn shops at 1/4- 1/2 off of what they were on the truck. As long as they were not marked up I was fine.
For me I don’t need to buy fancy named brand products as long as I don’t work anymore. Jumping on a companies band wagon is ok but remember if something can be fixed a china special wrench can do the job might be crude and a bit rough but I have a friend that I known that used china specials his entire career in aviation.
Like you I have both brand's, at work it's all snap on but I've had my cordless tools for years, I had planned on going Milwaukee for a cordless ratchet but snap on gave me a better deal and better product. At home it's all Milwaukee because it's wood working and home use tools...I chose Milwaukee because I think it's the best option for what I want even thou they are usually the highest priced of its competitors.
Snap on is quite pricy thou I've had very good dealers that offer great deals that are as cheap or cheaper than competitors and the tools live up to their price.
Milwaukee is also not cheap but I've been pleased with their product so far and plan on buying more of their stuff but I wish they would throw out better deals or discounts to the trades.